Anderson Cooper gay?

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MichaelWinicki;4609331 said:
I think it matters to a lot of people.

I could care less.

But if it didn't matter you would have many active pro-athletes admitting that they were homosexual.

And that not a single one has spoken out... says a great deal where the country is at when it comes to accepting someone who is homosexual.

I don't think it matters anywhere near as much the reactions do.
People are for the most part fighting each others opinions on it, not whether or not someone does something in his/her bedroom.

That is why it's made public with press conferences and announcements. Because tried and true a buzz will be created. It's not 'brave' to come out, because frankly the person who derides it or alienates the person is more often than not the one vilified as a bigot.

If the only difference were what is done in the bedroom, there'd be no need to talk abut it. We don't interact in that way with 99.9% of the people we encounter, so obviously something else is at hand. Like many have said: big surprise. How many on a personal level feel the same way about people we encounter? We're not killing each other and it doesn't matter in the workplace or family gatherings.

Yet some 'celeb' opens his dopey mouth and everyone either applauds or gets angry. The only true response to this 'news' is: who gives a crap?
 

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Doomsday101;4609343 said:
I don't think it is so much about this country as it is the nature of sports in general here or elsewhere.

I agree with that to great extent.

But I also think this country has two big hangups...

Sex & death.
 

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Denim Chicken;4609341 said:
Bet he is coming out to try and boost his crappy ratings.

The timing makes sense.

This could be absolutely true. CNN has never had this low of ratings ever. I think someone said like in all of its 22 years.

Coopers ratings on his own are abysmal.
 

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Why am I not surprised? Couldn't care less about the guy.. never liked him anyway..
 

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MichaelWinicki;4609353 said:
I agree with that to great extent.

But I also think this country has two big hangups...

Sex & death.

They just had a ship denied to dock in Spain because it was a gay cruise line.

Some countries you can get stoned to death for being gay. We may not be perfect and there will always be people who dislike you for one reason or another that will always be the case and there is no law saying you have to approve
 

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dez_for_prez;4609333 said:
this is why people make such a big deal about "coming out". It's people that hold this kind of opinion.

I feel like his opinion is based his morals. I understand myself because homosexuality goes against my morals as well. I don't mistreat anyone because they don't share the same morals, but I usually keep them at a distance. I would feel very uncomfortable around two men holding hands or kissing.
 

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AbeBeta;4609318 said:
Really? Cronkite's views on Vietnam had nothing to do with the stories he reported?

Fascinating.

He did many stories not all were negitive. After the tet offensive he did give a personal view of the war being unwinnable. He never put his political leanings out in the public he gave the story providing the facts.
 

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Doomsday101;4609394 said:
They just had a ship denied to dock in Spain because it was a gay cruise line.

Some countries you can get stoned to death for being gay. We may not be perfect and there will always be people who dislike you for one reason or another that will always be the case and there is no law saying you have to approve

No... It's not just a US thing.
 

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MichaelWinicki;4609410 said:
No... It's not just a US thing.

I think in the sporting arena (in some sports) players will not come out it is a macho culture they live in and seldom will that come out and normally it is after they are done playing. Other sports or events like figure skating guys who are straight have to deny they are gay since the common assumption is if you are a figure skater or ballet and male you are likely gay, reason being many are.
 

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jnday;4609395 said:
I feel like his opinion is based his morals. I understand myself because homosexuality goes against my morals as well. I don't mistreat anyone because they don't share the same morals, but I usually keep them at a distance. I would feel very uncomfortable around two men holding hands or kissing.

Back when my daughter was a senior in high school, she was in the color guard and had to go to all the football games.

This was in 2005.

We (wife & I) go into the stadium and walk over to where she was, along with many of the other local high school kids, and there was a couple of young guys holding hands and kissing. I knew one of them! Or knew his parents. He was also friends with my daughter.

The first thing that ran through my mind was what would have happened back in 1980 if a couple of guys from my senior class did that openly at a highschool football game?

I knew the answer.
 

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MichaelWinicki;4609331 said:
I think it matters to a lot of people.

I could care less.

But if it didn't matter you would have many active pro-athletes admitting that they were homosexual.

And that not a single one has spoken out... says a great deal where the country is at when it comes to accepting someone who is homosexual.

I know it matters to a lot of people, I'm just not sure why. I've never once heard someone provide a legitimate reason as to how someone else being gay effects their life in any way.
 

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The30YardSlant;4609440 said:
I know it matters to a lot of people, I'm just not sure why. I've never once heard someone provide a legitimate reason as to how someone else being gay effects their life in any way.

That's because it doesn't exist.
 

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First I have absolutely no idea who this person even is. So my first thought was who?

Second thought was...and? So?

Great. He's gay. Good for him.

Why would I, or anyone else, care? Why is this news? I don't care if a person is gay or straight. That's their personal decision in life and I'm completely fine with it but I don't get this need to announce it like it's some life altering, earth shattering, news for the rest of the world.

I'm sorry folks but the fact that you're gay isn't big, or important, news to anyone but you and your family and friends.

It really doesn't matter, at all, to anyone else.
 

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AbeBeta;4609263 said:
Kids are confused because people want to keep telling them that things that are normal are deviant. That's why kids are confused.

Also, confusing, why those who are not supposed to judge do so on such a regular basis.
If you are going to keep going there, maybe you should try reading the book so that you actually know what it says rather than what you think it says. And I recommend an e-reader with more than one translation so you can get a better picture of what it is saying.
 

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Doomsday101;4609405 said:
He did many stories not all were negitive. After the tet offensive he did give a personal view of the war being unwinnable. He never put his political leanings out in the public he gave the story providing the facts.

It is foolish to think that "facts" in terms of which are selected to present and which are left out are not subject to the author's interpretation and perspective. Foolish.
 

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BraveHeartFan;4609493 said:
First I have absolutely no idea who this person even is. So my first thought was who?

Second thought was...and? So?

Great. He's gay. Good for him.

Why would I, or anyone else, care? Why is this news? I don't care if a person is gay or straight. That's their personal decision in life and I'm completely fine with it but I don't get this need to announce it like it's some life altering, earth shattering, news for the rest of the world.

I'm sorry folks but the fact that you're gay isn't big, or important, news to anyone but you and your family and friends.

It really doesn't matter, at all, to anyone else.

If this were the case the whole issue of Gay Marriage wouldn't even exist.

People care, for whatever irrational reason they choose, they care.
 

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i think to all of us that are straight, its just like...ok, he is gay, whatever

but just like those of us of hispanic heritage, we look up to other successful hispanics as role models. People in the minority just seem to cling to other famous or successful people, sort of like "if he can do it, so can i"

so, while he or other famous people might have done it for a selfish reason, such as bettering his ratings, the fact still remains that gay kids out there will look up to him and there are worst people out there they could look up to.
 

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More of a formality than anything. It has been well known for quite some time that Anderson Cooper was gay.

Good for him coming out officially, though.
 

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Hoofbite;4609543 said:
If this were the case the whole issue of Gay Marriage wouldn't even exist.

People care, for whatever irrational reason they choose, they care.


They care because of their ignorant and bias reasons for not liking a person based on that. But that's just not liking the fact that they're gay.

I doubt there are too many people out there, if any, who actually care enough to need an announcement of whether a person is or isn't.

That was my point but I'm thinking I probably didn't make it very well in the way I worded it.
 

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Hoofbite;4609543 said:
If this were the case the whole issue of Gay Marriage wouldn't even exist.

People care, for whatever irrational reason they choose, they care.

A lot of people make a moral issue out of it, and my response to that is just because you believe something is wrong doesn't mean you have to worry about it. If the immoral behavior has absolutely no impact on your life and doesn't harm others, then what concern is it of yours?

There are a lot of moral issues in which others besides the people taking part in the acitvity are effected, but homosexuality is not one of them.
 
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