Anonymous NFL Executive had harsh words for Dak

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This is a respectable take. But here's what confuses me.

If Dak is a choker, can't take lead, etc.... how does a quarterback with all of those issues become an All-Pro and MVP candidate without the help of a functioning running game?

How does a quarterback with deficiencies, lead 3 straight seasons of 12 wins playing on a team that lead the league in penalties each of those seasons and also an offensive line with starters who haven't played together for three seasons due to injury until last season?

Do you know of any other quarterbacks who've become All Pro and MVP candidate without a running game to help the offense? I'm sure there may be others but I can't think of any at the moment.

We all know Dak isn't elite but he's not the only problem with this team.
In those games where Dak puts up great numbers the rest of the team is putting them up, too.
He gets plenty of help.
And his so-called "MVP" candidacy ended when he choked once again in the playoffs and everyone saw that he is great against bad teams but once again it was proven that is where his supposed "greatness" ends. If he could play against weaker teams all year in which the Cowboys dominate in every category he would continue putting up great stats.
But the truth is out; he doesn't hold up versus good teams.
 

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That post is so ridiculous it’s a complete waste of time. :rolleyes: I have better things to do on this board than to waste time with fans that don’t know what they’re talking about. Just another fan trying to discount Dak.
Yes, let's discount CD by saying Dak is the only reason he will get a contract. ;):welcome:
 

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I'm not a Dak lover or hater. But what has NFL fandom come to when the NFL MVP runner-up is labeled as "not doing anything special"?
Go review CD's receptions and see how many times they were easy completions. Every NFL QB would have gotten him the ball on the vast majority of those catches. That's not special. Special is completing low percentage throws on a regular basis.

There has been an entire thread discussing how easy it is to put up "numbers" in today's league. Tua & Goff put up more passing yards than Dak. Wouldn't that be more special?

Purdy only had 295 yards less on 146 less attempts & 102 less completions.
 

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https://thelandryhat.com/posts/anonymous-nfl-executive-qb-rankings-cowboys-dak-prescott-01j2xwb0z4gb

Anonymous NFL executive says quiet part out loud about Cowboys' Dak Prescott​

This Dak Prescott criticism hits very close to home.

By Jerry Trotta | 8:00 AM CDT​


"He always does well enough to be in the top 10 but never gets over the hump," said an NFC executive. "He makes all the throws. He's playing the position at a high level. But something's missing. There are a lot of factors in that, from the running game, playcalling, defense, and Dallas hasn't won in a long while. But certain guys are going to elevate their team late in the game, and Dak doesn't seem to do that."

Harsh or accurate?
 

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Yes, let's discount CD by saying Dak is the only reason he will get a contract. ;):welcome:
Where did I say Dak is the only reason CeeDee will get paid? Some of you love twisting my comments.
 

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In those games where Dak puts up great numbers the rest of the team is putting them up, too.
He gets plenty of help.
And his so-called "MVP" candidacy ended when he choked once again in the playoffs and everyone saw that he is great against bad teams but once again it was proven that is where his supposed "greatness" ends. If he could play against weaker teams all year in which the Cowboys dominate in every category he would continue putting up great stats.
But the truth is out; he doesn't hold up versus good teams.

But his record is pretty decent league vs winning teams compared to other starting quarterbacks vs winning teams. I think Dak is something like 24 - 28 vs winning teams. Matthew Stafford is like 11-72. I think Aaron Rodgers is like 44-47 or something like that. (I may be off a little on the records)

But what I'm saying is, that's a false narrative that Dak can't beat good teams. He's done it before a few times.

And against those good teams that gave Dak problems.... they made the rest of our team look just as bad. It's amazing how the rest of the team can play bad just like Dak, but he's the only player mentioned after big losses.
 
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The only team to win more games than the Cowboys the last 3 years (by one game) is the Chiefs.

If Dak was good enough to win a super bowl..........
We flame out by the playoffs. Our defensive performance against the Packers was the worst we saw the entire season.
 

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https://thelandryhat.com/posts/anonymous-nfl-executive-qb-rankings-cowboys-dak-prescott-01j2xwb0z4gb

Anonymous NFL executive says quiet part out loud about Cowboys' Dak Prescott​

This Dak Prescott criticism hits very close to home.

By Jerry Trotta | 8:00 AM CDT​


"He always does well enough to be in the top 10 but never gets over the hump," said an NFC executive. "He makes all the throws. He's playing the position at a high level. But something's missing. There are a lot of factors in that, from the running game, playcalling, defense, and Dallas hasn't won in a long while. But certain guys are going to elevate their team late in the game, and Dak doesn't seem to do that."

I agree with that. But when you admit you have these other concerns or weaknesses as well do you let go the one who can take you to the brink even if he’s not enough to overcome these other weaknesses, greater teams, QB’s and coaching ?

IDK. It’s a tough call. If we could just dial up another Staubach for example , I’m all in. But there’s no guarantees out there. They’re simply not enough Elite QB’s to go around. Most franchises have to build around less than great QB’s.

I think you have to stay the course and continue trying to build around best you can and hope it’s enough to finally break thru. But it’s going to be difficult going up against greater FO’s, coaching staffs and better built teams, etc .

Sometimes you’re just beat by better teams and or greater talents. Sometimes in a one game elimination you don’t have your best performance or other team and or players have stellar ones. Which happened to us even in our greatest eras.
 

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But his record is pretty decent league vs winning teams compared to other starting quarterbacks vs winning teams. I think Dak is something like 24 - 28 vs winning teams. Matthew Stafford is like 11-72. I think Aaron Rodgers is like 44-47 or something like that. (I may be off a little on the records)

But what I'm saying is, that's a false narrative that Dak can't beat good teams. He's done it before a few times.

And against those good teams that gave Dak problems.... they made the rest of our team look just as bad. It's amazing how the rest of the team can play bad just like Dak, but he's the only player mentioned after big losses.
Yea, it goes both ways. QB’s are often credited with wins too when the team around him deserves more credit.

But that’s all part of 24/7 media and now social media circus we live in now. Everything is over polarized. The media has convinced us that winning championships is only way to define greatness.
 

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I agree with that. But when you admit you have these other concerns or weaknesses as well do you let go the one who can take you to the brink even if he’s not enough to overcome these other weaknesses, greater teams, QB’s and coaching ?

IDK. It’s a tough call. If we could just dial up another Staubach for example , I’m all in. But there’s no guarantees out there. They’re simply not enough Elite QB’s to go around. Most franchises have to build around less than great QB’s.

I think you have to stay the course and continue trying to build around best you can and hope it’s enough to finally break thru. But it’s going to be difficult going up against greater FO’s, coaching staffs and better built teams, etc .

Sometimes you’re just beat by better teams and or greater talents. Sometimes in a one game elimination you don’t have your best performance or other team and or players have stellar ones. Which happened to us even in our greatest eras.
I agree but we had pretty much the same post-season issues with Romo. This is why I am now convinced the gap we see in the postseason isn't a Dak or Romo issue. It's the 3-4 QUALITY free-agent signings we leave on the table every off-season instead of settling for low-tier bottom feeders. Think about it, they consistently build through the draft and sprinkle a few bottom-feeding free agents from the outside. So when you get to the postseason, that gap is exposed. What's crazy is we have passed on several reasonable free agents who could have started for under $5M.
 

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I agree but we had pretty much the same post-season issues with Romo. This is why I am now convinced the gap we see in the postseason isn't a Dak or Romo issue. It's the 3-4 QUALITY free-agent signings we leave on the table every off-season instead of settling for low-tier bottom feeders. Think about it, they consistently build through the draft and sprinkle a few bottom-feeding free agents from the outside. So when you get to the postseason, that gap is exposed. What's crazy is we have passed on several reasonable free agents who could have started for under $5M.
It’s all the above beginning with our leadership at the top. Not having an Elite QB doesn’t help.

But it’s not the core reason we’ve had less success. Unfortunately there’s simply not enough to go around the league.

We’ve seen franchises with similar less than Elite QB’s like Romo and Dak make championship and SB appearances. Some have even won.

Are they enough to overcome our other concerns and weaknesses. Probably not. Is that their fault. That doesn’t mean they don’t bare some of the criticisms.
 

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It’s all the above beginning with our leadership at the top. Not having an Elite QB doesn’t help.

But it’s not the core reason we’ve had less success. Unfortunately there’s simply not enough to go around the league.

We’ve seen franchises with similar less than Elite QB’s like Romo and Dak make championship and SB appearances. Some have even won.

Are they enough to overcome our other concerns and weaknesses. Probably not. Is that their fault. That doesn’t mean they don’t bare some of the criticisms.
I tell you what....show me a Super Bowl-winning team that didn't have at least two QUALITY free agent starters. Like I said earlier, I'm not talking top-tier mega free agents but the mid-level guys with another year or two left in the tank.

Good example....Bobby Wagner admitted he WOULD HAVE signed with the Cowboys last season but we didn't even bother to offer him a contract. Hell, Quinn admitted he's wanted to reunite with him for some time. So it's not a reach to say he stood on a table bit to get him but was ignored. I think he signed with the Seahawks for what $2-3M?
 

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I’m not a SB or Bust type of fan. The media this era has over glorified the QB and basically only measure greatness by winning championships.

I still believe our greatest era was when we only won 2 SB’s. But we played 5 SB’s in a decade, 7 championship games in a decade ( 12 in 17 years ) with 20 consecutive winning seasons.

Yes in the 90’s we probably had our greatest team which won 3 rings. For 4 years we had arguably our best team ever. But we couldn’t sustain those winning ways. Not even close to it. And haven’t got close to either eras for almost 3 decades now.

Much has to do with our leadership as it did back in previous eras. And I’d argue still remains our biggest obstacle to overcome today.
 

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If this executive is unwilling to put his name out there then why open his mouth?

Why would any team executive even discuss the subject with a member of the media?

And if his name is not revealed then the writer and his story carry zero credibility.

Besides, is this new information?
 

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If this executive is unwilling to put his name out there then why open his mouth?

Why would any team executive even discuss the subject with a member of the media?

And if his name is not revealed then the writer and his story carry zero credibility.

Besides, is this new information?
Some sources insist on remaining anonymous. It doesn’t necessarily discredit their testimony or message.

It just protects them from personal attacks and or public scrutiny. Which is basically the intent of remaining anonymous especially on sensitive or damaging information.

It’s up to those more credible and identifiable entities who take or use these anonymous sources. And can we rely on or trust them.
 
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It's not really that harsh.

Dak is a top 10 QB, and during the playoffs neither him or his teammates step up.
Well said. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Regular season Dak is a top 5-7 QB. Playoffs he’s a 25-30 QB. This dichotomy is the reason he’s so polarizing with the fan base.
 

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This is a respectable take. But here's what confuses me.

If Dak is a choker, can't take lead, etc.... how does a quarterback with all of those issues become an All-Pro and MVP candidate without the help of a functioning running game?
What :huh:. It's not hard to work that out. Dak is an outstanding QB when he or the team (or combination of both) have earned and got the lead......which is absolutely suited to the regular season, especially when you've got 5 (gimme) games (2 x Giants, 2 Comms and home to Eags).

'ALL THOSE ISSUES' ?? :huh:. There's ONE issue and it's around his performance when HE has to step up out of the armchair. Even the GB game highlighted the issue in a microcosm......1st Half, go behind, immediately feels the extra pressure (to perform and score) and every failed drive increases said pressure .....2nd Half, game over, opponents take foot off gas and he goes back to the MVP Dak.
 

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Don Meredith - 101 Regular Season Games / 4 Playoff Games (link)
Regular Season: 1,170 Pass Completions / 2,308 Pass Attempts = 50.7% Completion Percentage Per Game
Postseason: 39 Pass Completions / 78 Pass Attempts = 50% Completion Percentage Per Game
Career: 1,209 Pass Completions / 2,386 Pass Completions = 50.7% Completion Percentage Per Game

Roger Staubach - 131 Regular Season Games / 20 Playoff Games (link)
Regular Season: 1,685 Pass Completions / 2,958 Pass Attempts = 57% Completion Percentage Per Game
Postseason: 223 Pass Completions / 410 Pass Attempts = 54% Completion Percentage Per Game
Career: 1,908 Pass Completions / 3,368 Pass Completions = 57% Completion Percentage Per Game

Danny White - 166 Regular Season Games / 18 Playoff Games (link)
Regular Season: 1,761 Pass Completions / 2,950 Pass Attempts = 60% Completion Percentage Per Game
Postseason: 206 Pass Completions / 360 Pass Attempts = 57.2% Completion Percentage Per Game
Career: 1,967 Pass Completions / 3,310 Pass Completions = 60% Completion Percentage Per Game

Troy Aikman - 165 Regular Season Games / 16 Playoff Games (link)
Regular Season: 2,898 Pass Completions / 4,715 Pass Attempts = 61% Completion Percentage Per Game
Postseason: 320 Pass Completions / 502 Pass Attempts = 64% Completion Percentage Per Game
Career: 3,218 Pass Completions / 5,217 Pass Completions = 62% Completion Percentage Per Game

Tony Romo - 156 Regular Season Games / 6 Playoff Games (link)
Regular Season: 2,829 Pass Completions / 4,335 Pass Attempts = 65% Completion Percentage Per Game
Postseason: 114 Pass Completions / 185 Pass Attempts = 62% Completion Percentage Per Game
Career: 2,943 Pass Completions / 4,520 Pass Completions = 65% Completion Percentage Per Game

Dak Prescott - 114 Regular Season Games / 7 Playoff Games (link)
Regular Season: 2,595 Pass Completions / 3,873 Pass Attempts = 67% Completion Percentage Per Game
Postseason: 178 Pass Completions / 276 Pass Attempts = 65% Completion Percentage Per Game
Career: 2,773 Pass Completions / 4,149 Pass Completions = 67% Completion Percentage Per Game

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If any of the QBs mentioned besides Romo played in Dak's system against today's NFL defenses they'd own top records
Surely you know that.
Likewise, if Dak played back in the 70s, 80s or 90s, he'd hold the all time NFL record for pick sixes. Strike that he might be running a PS. :flagwave:
 
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