Any LAKER Fans Here??

[Route 66]

Are you dumb? how are the hornets better then the lakers? look at the standing, we killed the hornets in there own home without Gasol. can you imagine now if we had all our players? not even a contest. we are still missing

bynum and Trevor, we are the deepest team in the NBA like it or now. your team aint nothing, like i said before you guys are 1 and done in the playoffs..!!

How you like them apples?

Actually, you are the one who I question that has any IQ You speak of "can you imagine if we had all our players". I cant think of a more annoying and stupid comment. But coming from a Lakers fan, it makes perfect sense. You are the deepest team and if Pau wasn't hurt... blah blah.. Please. I take great pleasure in your demise simply because I abhor your fanboy attitude. Enjoy your failure in the postseason.

 

[Route 66]

BTW- The Phoenix Suns owned the Los Angeles Lakers in the last post season played so until you beat us, you are officially owned. Im sorry you have to drink from such a bitter cup but the Suns have to do it with the Spurs and well, you have to do it with the Suns until you beat us. Good day.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

Actually, you are the one who I question that has any IQ You speak of "can you imagine if we had all our players". I cant think of a more annoying and stupid comment. But coming from a Lakers fan, it makes perfect sense. You are the deepest team and if Pau wasn't hurt... blah blah.. Please. I take great pleasure in your demise simply because I abhor your fanboy attitude. Enjoy your failure in the postseason.

Your team is garbage!! You guys play no defense. remember this. defense wins champinships, remember that real good. Just go ask the spurs of what they think about that word defense. Your time to hine in PHX is done. and i say done becuase shaq will be done after this year, the turd has nothing left in the tank.. Like i told another suns fan, you guys are1 and one in the playoffs.. funny how all of a sudden theres plenty of suns, fans. when going back 2-3 years ago, there was none around.. :bang2:

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

" GO LAKERS!!!!!

 

[MC KAos]

i think shaq will become fat/complasant like he was in miami the last 2 years after this season, so the suns better hope they can win it all this year

 

[Route 66]

Your team is garbage!! You guys play no defense. remember this. defense wins champinships, remember that real good. Just go ask the spurs of what they think about that word defense. Your time to hine in PHX is done. and i say done becuase shaq will be done after this year, the turd has nothing left in the tank.. Like i told another suns fan, you guys are1 and one in the playoffs.. funny how all of a sudden theres plenty of suns, fans. when going back 2-3 years ago, there was none around.. :bang2:

Wow I smelled something coming from my monitor and it was this post. I wouldnt mind having a decent and intellectual back and forth with this but you cant seem to be anything but a flaming fanboy of the Lakers and I am quite suprised you mention defense when the Grizzlies took you out and scored like prom night all over that game. Id be ashamed.

Funny how you know nothing about the Phoenix Suns or its fans considering Ive been through it thick and thin. There were plenty of Suns around 2-3 years ago. As a matter of fact, the fanbase grew during the Barkley era and never stopped.

 

[Route 66]

" GO LAKERS!!!!!

I love seeing posts like yours, it makes the fall-flat-on-your-face-sound so delectable.

GO SUNS!!

 

[Route 66]

i think shaq will become fat/complasant like he was in miami the last 2 years after this season, so the suns better hope they can win it all this year

What a difference a streak of 7 makes....

Now you are all up in the negativity of the Suns eh? From what I recall, you ran off like a little girl when your team wasn't doing well and now you happen to win seven and its trash talking time?

Shaq can do no right with some of you short-sighted fanboys! The guy has been better than what I or many others have expected and made some doubters eat their words. I guess you are right, we better have his jug of arthritic ointment ready for use..

 

[MC KAos]

What a difference a streak of 7 makes....

Now you are all up in the negativity of the Suns eh? From what I recall, you ran off like a little girl when your team wasn't doing well and now you happen to win seven and its trash talking time?

Shaq can do no right with some of you short-sighted fanboys! The guy has been better than what I or many others have expected and made some doubters eat their words. I guess you are right, we better have his jug of arthritic ointment ready for use..

what the hell are you talking about? im going by something called history, which tells me shaq is gonna become a douchebag and not try hard and his team will struggle because of it. Then, after he retires he is gonna talk smack about your team, he did it to orlando, he did it to LA, he is doing it to miami, what makes you think its gonna be different with phoenix? your being shortsighted if you think he is gonna be good and put out maximum effort past this year. I guess youll be feeling like an *** when you realize all i did was state a fact and i wasnt even insulting your team yet you come back and have no other resort but to insult me personally, which, by the way i could ask to have you banned just like nors was, which your starting to remind me of. I never said the suns werent a good team, and in fact, go back to the first posts when the suns made the trade, i said it made them better for the playoffs, but i guess you just look for anything you think is negative about your team, even going as low as to insult woody's girl, very classy, great example of how suns fans arent whinny

 

[Route 66]

what the hell are you talking about? im going by something called history, which tells me shaq is gonna become a douchebag and not try hard and his team will struggle because of it. Then, after he retires he is gonna talk smack about your team, he did it to orlando, he did it to LA, he is doing it to miami, what makes you think its gonna be different with phoenix? your being shortsighted if you think he is gonna be good and put out maximum effort past this year

Wow. I was right. You tucked your tail and cried like a 4 year old because your poor team wouldn't stand up to your standards so you whined about telling all that you would be back after the regular season. After seeing you actually leaving a board because you couldnt handle losing says a lot. Heck my team has let me down a TON but I do not desert them. You Sir are classless to tell me I am shortsighted and that history tells every time what someone will do in the future.

Ive posted some good things about your team recently even though I cannot stand them out of respect for the game. Ive said the same thing about Kobe even though I cannot stand him. Well since its all one way Ill make sure to change that.

 

[Route 66]

I guess youll be feeling like an *** when you realize all i did was state a fact and i wasnt even insulting your team yet you come back and have no other resort but to insult me personally, which, by the way i could ask to have you banned just like nors was, which your starting to remind me of.

Ill tell you what, you have the gumption to tell me you own this site or are a moderator in that you will get me banned. Id say show me or keep it closed. There is proof all over this entire forum where I have made many good posts where I congratulated the Spurs on their 50th win, congratulated the Rockets on their streak, congratulated Kobe on his skills as well as Duncan being classy and Robinson.

You went off on some speculation that Shaq is going to do something in the future which was a negative comment in and of itself and you actually think you are going to call it a fact? You started all of it. My history on these boards show that if people are civil, Im civil.

Dont try and bring WoodysGirl in this to benefit your side of going after me for anything. She was not insulted and if you read every post you would see that.

 

[MC KAos]

Wow. I was right. You tucked your tail and cried like a 4 year old because your poor team wouldn't stand up to your standards so you whined about telling all that you would be back after the regular season. After seeing you actually leaving a board because you couldnt handle losing says a lot. Heck my team has let me down a TON but I do not desert them. You Sir are classless to tell me I am shortsighted and that history tells every time what someone will do in the future.

Ive posted some good things about your team recently even though I cannot stand them out of respect for the game. Ive said the same thing about Kobe even though I cannot stand him. Well since its all one way Ill make sure to change that.

go back and read the rest of my post, and im very superstitious, there is a reason why i left the board and stopped keeping up with it, the same reason i wont watch a spurs game till they lose, cuz i believe if i watch ill jinx them, thats just the way i am, but again, you keep insulting me if it makes you feel better. I still havent insulted your team, im just pointing out that shaq's history is pretty evident and that he wont be anywhere near as good next year as he is this year because he is gonna get complacent and mad at the team. Ill be happy to discuss that with you, but if you just wanna ignore what im saying and keep sending personal insults my way its just gonna show people here how classy you really are

 

[Route 66]

go back and read the rest of my post, and im very superstitious, there is a reason why i left the board and stopped keeping up with it, the same reason i wont watch a spurs game till they lose, cuz i believe if i watch ill jinx them, thats just the way i am, but again, you keep insulting me if it makes you feel better. I still havent insulted your team, im just pointing out that shaq's history is pretty evident and that he wont be anywhere near as good next year as he is this year because he is gonna get complacent and mad at the team. Ill be happy to discuss that with you, but if you just wanna ignore what im saying and keep sending personal insults my way its just gonna show people here how classy you really are

Wow you arent making one bit of sense! Lets make it simple. Go and read every top five threads on here. I made quite a few comments towards a lot of Western teams and their success as well as the players. Very few have anything good whatsoever to say about the Suns. Thats fine. Im not trying to get compliments of my team or I would hang out on a Suns forum. The point is it gets old when every time you turn around you see comments that are for the most part always negative. Id really take a hard look at that before making it seem I am just here to insult and cause issues.

 

[MC KAos]

Wow you arent making one bit of sense! Lets make it simple. Go and read every top five threads on here. I made quite a few comments towards a lot of Western teams and their success as well as the players. Very few have anything good whatsoever to say about the Suns. Thats fine. Im not trying to get compliments of my team or I would hang out on a Suns forum. The point is it gets old when every time you turn around you see comments that are for the most part always negative. Id really take a hard look at that before making it seem I am just here to insult and cause issues.

and shaq wont screw around, be in shape next year because??? i still dont get why you keep trying to insult me instead of just discussing this point with me

 

[Route 66]

go back and read the rest of my post, and im very superstitious, there is a reason why i left the board and stopped keeping up with it, the same reason i wont watch a spurs game till they lose, cuz i believe if i watch ill jinx them, thats just the way i am

"I've decided that i need to take a break from watching and keeping up with any nba stuff the rest of the year because im just emotionally exhausted right now by the way the year is starting to go. You can insult me all you want and thats fine, or believe whatever you want about how much i love my team and thats fine, but i just feel so sick to my stomach and feel this is the best thing to do."

That is why you left. You said it plain and simple. You left due to emotional exhaustion. Sorry but I don't see how that has anything to do with superstition and I stand by what I feel on the reasons you left. Regardless, I am not after you. If I recall, the timeline on this thread shows you went off on some tirade about Shaq out of the blue. Why? Who knows. But there was nothing from me until I replied to your post.

 

[MC KAos]

i think shaq will become fat/complasant like he was in miami the last 2 years after this season, so the suns better hope they can win it all this year

i wouldnt call that going off, im just making a comment based on his history with every other team he has ever played with. if you'd like to have a normal, human being discussion about why you think im wrong id be happy to, but i think you just ignoring my initial statement and throwing personal insults my way is pretty immature.

im gonna go watch i am legend now, when i get back id love it if you just tell me why you think im wrong and ill be happy to have a civil discussion with you

 

[Route 66]

and shaq wont screw, around be in shape next year because??? i still dont get why you keep trying to insult me instead of just discussing this point with me

Why are you pulling this insult card? Look at my above post and the time line. I didnt start anything with you-you did! I stand by my team and when people make potshots at any player or the team IMO for no reason, I will defend em. Plain and simple. You guys do it for your team and I will do it for mine. Anyway who wants to read this back and forth stuff-we need to stick with b-ball.

I see the Spurs and the Hornets fighting for the number one top spot. Lakers IMO will slide due to injuries with Kobe, Fisher and the nagging one with Gasol. They could still be in the thick of the higher seeds-itll just be tougher.

Suns will either go way far or make any team they meet play their butts off with all their effort to beat them. Suns wont go down easy if they go down.

 

[Route 66]

Originally Posted by MC KAos View Post
i think shaq will become fat/complasant like he was in miami the last 2 years after this season, so the suns better hope they can win it all this year"

What is there to avoid about your comment? All you bring to the table is first of all a gray area. What defines complacency in the first place? Only 8 rebounds or less a game? Is it points? Free throws made?? Either way, lets say you are right in that Shaq gives off an attitude of complacency because his numbers dropped. I'm not buying the fact that going from LA to Miami is reason enough because he played well in Orlando and LA. So therefore that leads one move and to one franchise to judge him by and that is Miami.

So you have quotes then of Shaq insulting the previously-mentioned franchises? I would like to see them before stating them as fact in this. Otherwise I'm not going by it. Even if ten or more people agreed with you. But let's say that you are right. Who cares? He's paid to play ball and produce and right now, he is. He can say whatever he wants about the Suns when he leaves. Sure, it would be nice to hear cotton candy phrases but people want results in the NBA. Marion left the Suns and went to Miami and said good things about the Suns. You know what? Great! But if he didn't, I wouldnt lose sleep over it.

So far Shaq has surprised a large number of people with the opposite of complacency. Maybe hes tired of hearing it because it was the truth or maybe something else. All I care about is Shaq doing what he is supposed to do for the team.

 

[MC KAos]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/heat/content/sports/epaper/2008/03/27/a1c_heat_0327.html

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NEW YORK — Heat President and coach Pat Riley, tired of his organization taking shots from Shaquille O'Neal, said he was disturbed and disappointed that his former center continues to criticize Miami coaches and players and members of the medical staff.

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"It's sad that he says those things," Riley said Wednesday. "We shared so much here together."

O'Neal played 31/2 seasons in Miami and helped win an NBA title in 2006.

"The ultimate championship was absolutely glorious," Riley said before the Heat lost to New York. "And (then) you run on hard times. So, I just think it's sad that he's got to do that."

O'Neal went from the NBA's worst club to what was the West's top seed when Miami dealt him to Phoenix on Feb. 6 for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks.

"We sent him to Utopia and we're here left with the carnage," Riley said. "And I don't know why he's not happy."

Riley, point guard Chris Quinn and swingman Ricky Davis were targets in a story published in The Boston Globe.

"I love playing for this coach and I love playing with these guys," O'Neal said of Mike D'Antoni and the Suns. "We have professionals who know what to do. No one is asking me to play with Chris Quinn or Ricky Davis. I'm actually on a team again."

Davis and Quinn shrugged off the insult.

"It shows his true colors,'' Davis said. "You can't really take stuff personal in the NBA. You'd go crazy. If that's how he feels, that's how he feels.

"The time you get offended is if it's true. It's funny."

Said Quinn: "I don't have too much to say about it. I don't know, but it didn't hurt me."

Riley was especially upset that O'Neal, in a Sports Illustrated story, said the Heat medical staff did not correctly diagnose his hip injury early this season.

"That's an insult, because these are professionals,'' Riley said, citing trainer Ron Culp, a 37-year veteran of the NBA, and team doctor Harlan Selesnick. "It's really a shame that he would insult those people like that because they gave him care. They cared.

"They didn't kiss his butt. They cared about trying to get him well. ... He can do whatever he wants to me. I don't care. What upsets me is that those men sort of get tainted."

O'Neal initially hurt his hip against Utah on Dec. 22 and exacerbated the injury four days later. He later took time off for treatment of what the team said was bursitis.

O'Neal said the Heat "couldn't figure out" the problem, so it tried to blame him.

The team "tried to use everything as an excuse," he said. "They couldn't figure out what the pain was, so it had to be something with me. 'Oh, he's too old.' 'He's getting divorced.' 'He doesn't want to play.' It was none of those things. (The Suns are) taking care of me here; I'm feeling better every day; and everybody's going to see they were wrong about me."

Because of the hip injury, O'Neal had missed 19 of 23 games before the trade. He left the team for six days for treatment in Los Angeles and reportedly was being told by advisers to skip the rest of the season. But he made his Suns debut two weeks after the trade and has played in every game since, averaging almost 30 minutes.

The Suns have fallen to the sixth seed in the West since acquiring O'Neal. The Heat has the worst record in the NBA, as it did when Shaq was traded seven weeks ago.

"We were all frustrated,'' Riley said. "Everybody was at fault. We all were. Everybody was feeling bad and nobody wants that. He didn't want to be there."

O'Neal has a history of acrimonious separations, the most publicized being his rift with the Lakers and Kobe Bryant that started when the two were teammates and continued after O'Neal came to Miami in July 2004. When the Lakers dealt him to Miami, O'Neal said he was thrilled. But he soured on the Heat as Miami struggled.

"He didn't want to play for that kind of situation," Riley said. "He wanted to go to a contender. And we sent him there."

 

[MC KAos]

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Memo to Shaq: Go find another 'dried-up pond'

Mike Bianchi | SPORTS COMMENTARY
March 28, 2008

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So now Shaq wants to come back to Orlando and become a general manager.

Thanks, big fella.

But no thanks.

A decade ago, you left the Magic for Hollywood and called Orlando "a dried-up little pond" on your way out the door. Speaking on behalf of the rest of the muck-dwellers at the bottom of the basin, I have a message for you, Shaq Daddy:

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Take your GM job and shove it!

Shaq lobbying for a future position with the Magic as he did earlier this week is not only the height of hilarity; it's hypocrisy to the hilt.

First of all, the Magic already have a GM in Otis Smith who has been an integral part in building this young team into a contender. Bringing back Shaq would be like Benedict Arnold returning to the colonies to become the commanding general of the Continental Army. Shaq has already wrecked this up-and-coming franchise once. Do we really want to see him do it again?

Normally, we would laugh this whole thing off as just Shaq being Shaq. Let's not forget, he also once said he'd like to come back to his Isleworth mansion after he retires and become the Sheriff ofOrange County. (Shaq wouldn't put people in jail like most lawmen; he'd just sentence them to 60 days of watching Kazaam.)

But this time, Shaq seems serious about his desire to return to Orlando as GM when he retires following the 2009-2010 season. And not only that, he wants to -- are you ready for this? -- bring his Phoenix teammate and fellow Magic deserter Grant Hill with him.

"Grant will be the team president -- he's a bright guy -- and I'll be the general manager," Shaq told Sentinel writer Tim Povtak before Wednesday's game in Boston. "I'm serious. They need me down there with the new arena coming. Grant and I are coming to do a job."

Said Hill: "He has been talking about this a lot lately. I don't know what prompted it, but he's really fired up about the idea."

The Big Diesel has turned into the Big Dreamer.

This is a delusional concept on so many levels. First and foremost, these are the two guys most responsible for the last decade of Magic malaise. Shaq is the biggest free-agent loss in sports history; Hill the biggest free-agent bust.

The Magic paid Hill $92 million and endured seven injury-wasted years only to see him bail at the first opportunity after last season.

Shaq, too, bolted the first chance he could. He left Orlando after the '96 season, and the Magic haven't been the same since.

It's laughable for Shaq to say, the Magic "need me down there with a new building coming." No, Shaq, the Magic needed you about seven years ago when they first started trying to get a new building. They certainly don't need you now that they have one.

All of these bad memories not withstanding, there's an even better reason to ignore Shaq's inane proposition: Because superstar players traditionally make lousy executives (see Michael Jordan, Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Elgin Baylor).

And, besides, can you just imagine GM Shaq trying to persuade a big-name free-agent to sign with Orlando?

Shaq: "This is a great organization and an unbelievable place to play. Come help us win a championship."

Free-agent: "If this is such a great place to play, why didn't you want to play here? You want me to come help the Magic win a championship? Why didn't you stay and help them win one?"

Go away, Shaq.

For the first time in a decade, our little pond is half-full again.

The only thing dried up is your ability to elevate a franchise to greatness.

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