Any news on Henson?

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I dont know.....

Completes 60-65% of his passes, no INTs (unless he throws ALOT of passes), at least 1-2 TDs.

60-65% of his passes? Tom Brady only hit 60% of his passes Aikman was usually in the high 50's maybe you should tone that number down some.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I'm not asking for Peyton Manning here, but if he cant do that against the 2nd-3rd team defense of a bottom dwelling team, he's in trouble.

so why is Romo still here?

other than one game, he's been awful

David
 

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Well, that seems logical....except for the fact that it is well documented that Parcells was actively involved in the pursuit of Henson.



what was documented was that BP was doing some background work. He did not pursue Henson. He just had dinner with the kid to find out where the kid's head was, he talked to the kid's father and his old coach and the guys and coaches on the Yankees.
That is not pursuing that is background checking, to find out about a person.

You misunderstood what actually happened, but you were not the only one, some sportswriters did the same thing, and al ot of other people, fans etc.

They took dinner talking with past coaches and father as pursuing. Jerry pursued Henson not BP. If the Texans had been willing to give up Henson when we signed Hutch, Hutch would not have ever been here.
 

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dbair1967 said:
so why is Romo still here?

other than one game, he's been awful

David
Oh you had to go and do facts huh Dave?

Messed up my whole karma.
 

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PHYSICAL SKILLS are what you have without having to learn. Speed, agility, strength, etc are physical skills. By that definition, Randall was the better PHYSICAL player. I wont argue for a second that Troy was smarter, or had a better pocket presense, but those are things that are leanred from experiance.

A quarterback uses their whole body to throw, not just the arm, right? So you can't claim that Cunningham was more physically gifted, he was just a better runner. Aikman could scramble a bit too, let's not pretend he was a statue out there on every play. They were both athletes that paid a big price with their bodies on the field.
 

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BHendri5 said:
what was documented was that BP was doing some background work. He did not pursue Henson. He just had dinner with the kid to find out where the kid's head was, he talked to the kid's father and his old coach and the guys and coaches on the Yankees.
That is not pursuing that is background checking, to find out about a person.

You misunderstood what actually happened, but you were not the only one, some sportswriters did the same thing, and al ot of other people, fans etc.

They took dinner talking with past coaches and father as pursuing. Jerry pursued Henson not BP. If the Texans had been willing to give up Henson when we signed Hutch, Hutch would not have ever been here.
Wrong, as per usual.
 

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what was documented was that BP was doing some background work. He did not pursue Henson. He just had dinner with the kid to find out where the kid's head was, he talked to the kid's father and his old coach and the guys and coaches on the Yankees.
That is not pursuing that is background checking, to find out about a person.

You misunderstood what actually happened, but you were not the only one, some sportswriters did the same thing, and al ot of other people, fans etc.

They took dinner talking with past coaches and father as pursuing. Jerry pursued Henson not BP. If the Texans had been willing to give up Henson when we signed Hutch, Hutch would not have ever been here.

you have alot of facts pretty messed up...we signed Hutchinson way before Henson was ever drafted by Houston...

as for the rest of your story, it totally contradicts everything documeted in JJT's story

Parcells has been calling every shot here since day one...

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HeavyHitta31 said:
He looked damn good against both Oakland and Tennessee last year.
Henson looked damn good against Baltimore too. But that doesn't count right?
 

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Henson looked damn good against Baltimore too. But that doesn't count right?

For one drive yes, he looked very good, then he played a half against a piss poor Chicago team and played like a HS QB.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
He looked damn good against both Oakland and Tennessee last year.


Again Tenn he had 32 yards (25 on one play) He threw a -7 yard pass.

In his 3 drives he went 3 and out twice.


Henson did well that game. Throwing for 69 yards and leading a scoring drive



against Oakland Romo had 40 yards (50% passing) the only thing he done that game was call the wrong play (resulted in a TD)

Henson was 7 of 9 for 53 yards and a scoring drive
 

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blindzebra said:
The height of narcissism.:lmao2:

I guess the fact that we know Parcells was asking about Henson before he took the Cowboy's job, was actively involved in the trade and scouting of Henson, and moved him to #2 and played him in games and moved him back to #2 for the last game, mean less than your opinion.


That is not the truth. Parcells never uttered a word about Henson, until Jerry signed him.
He never said anything about trying to get Henson from the Texans.

Now why would you sit there and type that Lie about BP?
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
For one drive yes, he looked very good, then he played a half against a piss poor Chicago team and played like a HS QB.
But Romo was lights out for 4 quarters in the 2 games you mentioned right?

HH, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.
 

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BHendri5 said:
That is not the truth. Parcells never uttered a word about Henson, until Jerry signed him.
He never said anything about trying to get Henson from the Texans.

Now why would you sit there and type that Lie about BP?

Thats funny all reports say otherwise.
 

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Again Tenn he had 32 yards (25 on one play) He threw a -7 yard pass.

In his 3 drives he went 3 and out twice.


Henson did well that game. Throwing for 69 yards and leading a scoring drive



against Oakland Romo had 40 yards (50% passing) the only thing he done that game was call the wrong play (resulted in a TD)

Henson was 7 of 9 for 53 yards and a scoring drive

My bad, it was KC, not Tennessee, I knew it was one of the home games:

12/14
141 yards
1 TD
0 INTs

If Henson does that, I'll say I was very wrong
 

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Reserves lead Cowboys past Chiefs 24-20


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IRVING, Texas (Sept. 2, 2004) -- After seeing the way his aging running back, even older quarterback and questionable group of cornerbacks closed the preseason, Bill Parcells considers the Dallas Cowboys still a work in progress.

"I'm going to be looking at the waiver wire, that's for sure. I'm going to be looking pretty close," Parcells said following a 24-20 victory against the Kansas City Chiefs. "We've got to try to improve our talent level a little bit. Anybody can tell from looking at us."

Dallas' starters were unimpressive, with Vinny Testaverde hitting nearly as many defensive backs as receivers and Eddie George having more carries than yards. Kansas City was slowed early by penalties, then had consecutive touchdown drives by throwing at the Cowboys' right cornerbacks.

Once both teams started taking out their starters, Dallas backup quarterback Tony Romo led three consecutive scoring drives and the defense made it hold up. The Cowboys finished the preseason 3-1, Kansas City went 1-3.

Romo, who never played while an undrafted rookie last season, went 12-for-14 for 141 yards. He led a drive that culminated in a field goal right before halftime and led TD drives of 70 and 65 yards in the third quarter, taking the Cowboys from down 14-7 to ahead 24-14.

Romo likely won the second-string spot, especially since Drew Henson went 0-for-4 with an interception on his first pass.

"I've been gaining confidence each week," said Romo, who ran for the winning touchdown in the last minute of another preseason game. "I was able to get into a rhythm tonight and our wide receivers and offensive line did great work."
 

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But Romo was lights out for 4 quarters in the 2 games you mentioned right?

HH, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

He looked great for 2 full quarters against KC, and lead the game winning drive against Oakland
 

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He never played as horribly, or even close to as horribly, as Henson did against Chicago.

he never got that close to a regular season game to suck in.
 

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Just a reminder that Bill was very much involved in Drew's signing. If he hadn't wanted him, he wouldn't be here.

How the Cowboys got Henson

Organization's focus pays off when quarterback winds up in mix

09:12 AM CST on Wednesday, March 31, 2004
By JEAN-JACQUES TAYLOR / The Dallas Morning News


IRVING – Every time Cowboys owner Jerry Jones talks about Drew Henson, his mind drifts to champagne showers and Super Bowl trophies.

Every time Jones sees videotape of Henson playing at Michigan, he remembers Troy Aikman as the epicenter of an offensive machine that helped the Cowboys win five consecutive NFC East titles and three Super Bowls to earn the title of Team of the '90s.

So it should come as no surprise that Henson will be wearing the Cowboys' fabled blue star on the side of a silver helmet when the 2004 season begins.

After all, Jones has coveted the 6-5, 233-pound quarterback since he read Cowboys scout Jim Garrett's glowing report after the 2000 season.

And on Friday afternoon, Henson became an official member of the Dallas Cowboys, when the NFL finally approved a trade that sent a third-round pick in 2005 to the Houston Texans for the 24-year-old.

"I commend them for being imaginative, creative and aggressive in doing this," Houston general manager Charley Casserly said. "This kid is as good as any quarterback in the draft. He hasn't played in a while, but he'll overcome that eventually."

Setting the table

Jerry Jones phoned Dan Henson the day before the 2003 draft, as did representatives from five other clubs. Each team knew Henson's son was struggling at Triple-A and wanted to know if Drew was still committed to playing baseball.

Henson, considered one of the top players in the nation after passing for more than 2,000 yards with 18 touchdowns and four interceptions as a junior at Michigan, quit football to sign a six-year, $17 million contract with the New York Yankees.

"I told him that Drew was still committed to playing baseball, but there might be a better matchup to his physical and mental skills in football," said Dan Henson, who coached football at several Division I colleges. "I think he missed the athleticism. He missed running around and making a play, because in baseball, you're confined to a three-foot spot at third base or home plate."

The next day, as the draft moved into the middle rounds, Jones phoned Dan Henson again.

"I thought there was a chance Dallas was going to draft him," Henson said. "There were two to three teams that called me and wanted me to tell them that Drew was going to play football, but I couldn't do that. Charley
Casserly was intuitive enough to know that it wasn't as big a risk as other people thought."

That's because the Texans had talked to numerous baseball scouts and
sources within the Yankees, making Casserly convinced Henson would return to football.

Houston selected him in the sixth round.

"I called Dan and told him, 'The only reason we drafted Drew was to trade him,' " Casserly said.

After hitting .233 with the Columbus Clippers, Henson decided to return to
football.

Soon after that happened, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones and Bill Parcells met in the scouting department to discuss how seriously they should pursue Henson.
It was the first of several meetings.


They asked each other questions such as: "How does a young quarterback fit our quarterback situation?" "How will he fit with our team? "What's his talent level?"

There were few negatives, so they decided to pursue him.

A trade made sense because it would give Houston an opportunity to receive a premium draft pick while allowing Henson to choose where he played. If he returned to the draft, he would have had no say in which team selected him.
Houston retained Henson's rights until April 23, but Jones had a different timetable.

He wanted a deal done in March.

Then Henson could participate in the entire off-season program and have an additional month to learn the offense and work with the coaching staff before the club's first rookie camp.

The Senior Bowl

At the end of a Senior Bowl practice in mid-January, Stephen Jones spoke with Henson's agent, Tom Condon, concerning his client's intentions.

"We understand Drew might be considering playing football. Is that the case?" Stephen Jones asked.

"Yes, he's definitely going to play football," Condon said.

"Are you going to advise him to go back in the draft, or would he entertain something where he didn't have to go back in the draft?" Stephen Jones said. "Is there a way to do the contract where Drew could be happy and not go back into the draft?"

"Yes, because the appealing thing about not going back into the draft is that you can pick your team," Condon said.

Now, Dallas could intensify its efforts.

Michigan coach Lloyd Carr, in town because Wolverines running back Chris Perry was going to receive the Doak Walker Award, visited Valley Ranch in February and met with Stephen Jones and Parcells, an old friend.
Jones liked what he heard during their 30-minute meeting.

"My college coach said I won't have any problems with his style of coaching," said Henson, "and I agree."

On Feb. 12, Henson worked out for 20 teams in Houston. Quarterbacks coach Sean Payton, scout Walter Juliff and offensive assistant David Lee represented the Cowboys.

Parcells and Jerry Jones remained in Dallas because they didn't want to alert the rest of the NFL just how much they wanted Henson.


Payton, a longtime friend of Henson's father, returned with glowing reviews.

The combine

When Jerry Jones arrived in Indianapolis at the NFL's Scouting Combine on Feb. 19, meeting with Casserly and Condon was near the top of his priority list.

He needed a feel for the compensation Houston wanted and the contract Condon desired.

Three days later, Jones met with Casserly in the RCA Dome.

They sat in the stands near the finish line of the 40-yard dash and discussed compensation for about 15 minutes.

Casserly wanted a conditional third-round pick in 2005 that could become a first-round choice if Henson performed at a certain level or a second-round pick in 2004.

But Jones doesn't like conditional picks because he always assumes the player
he's acquiring will perform at a high level, thus the team he's trading with will get a better draft choice.

Toward the end of their conversation, Casserly agreed to let the Cowboys put Henson through a personal workout soon after the combine.

"I wanted to keep the momentum going," Casserly said.

Jones returned to the Cowboys' bus, a $500,000 luxury vehicle painted in the club's colors, after meeting with Casserly.

Jones drank Dr Pepper while he, Condon and Stephen Jones discussed parameters of a contract.

The deal would have to be creative because Henson was going to have to be compensated like a first-round pick even though he was a sixth-round pick.

"If it's not a traditional contract, then a lot of people in the league don't want to do it," Stephen Jones said. "It's not like there's something hidden under a rock that's going to bite you."
Dallas workout

Bill Parcells didn't want anyone to know Henson was conducting a personal workout for the Cowboys on Feb. 23; he didn't want blaring headlines in the local newspapers or television trucks lined up in the parking lot of the club's Valley Ranch training complex.

"We're having a secret workout on Monday," he told members of the coaching staff a few days prior to the workout. "I'm not telling anyone who it is."


Henson, wearing jeans and a T-shirt, arrived in Dallas from Tampa, Fla., on American Airlines Flight 1209. A team official picked him up, took him to his hotel and then drove him to Al Biernat's, an upscale steakhouse on Oak Lawn where many of the city's power brokers dine.

Al Biernat's would provide privacy for Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones and Parcells as they met with Henson, who had changed into dress slacks and a button-down shirt. In a private room, all but Parcells, who opted for seafood, dined on steak.

"We were trying to get a good feel for whether this guy has the personality and is he the type of person who can handle being the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys," Stephen Jones said.

The dinner lasted about 2½ hours as the most powerful members of the Cowboys' organization tried to sell Henson on their team and their vision.

They also wanted to look into his eyes and make sure his dream of professional baseball had ended.

Once dinner ended, the men shook hands. Parcells and Henson left in the coach's white Lincoln Town Car. Henson learned a lot during the 30-minute drive to his hotel.

"It was interesting," Henson said with a chuckle. "Just to hear him talking let me know he's intense about everything in life – not just about football."


Much of the scouting and coaching staffs – and Troy Aikman, at Jones' request – attended Henson's 20-minute workout the next morning.

When it ended, Jones asked Aikman to speak to Henson. Aikman told Henson about the highs and lows he could expect if he became the starting quarterback for America's Team.

"There's a lot of pressure. You're going to get a lot of recognition," Henson said, recounting Aikman's advice. "There are going to be a lot of eyes on you. They expect great things of you."

After the workout, Henson visited with Parcells. Then he met with Jones for about 20 minutes in the owner's office.

"I'm certainly interested in playing for the Cowboys," Henson said.

"We'll be talking to Tom and Houston," Jones replied. "We're going to be pushing this down the road."

The contract

The Cowboys didn't want to get down to nitty-gritty trade discussions until Stephen Jones had the parameters of a contract in place with Condon because he didn't want to give Henson or the Texans too much power during negotiations.

The Cowboys watched every snap Henson played at Michigan and dissected every throw. Ultimately, they decided Henson was a late first-round or early second-round pick, so Stephen Jones began creating a contract that would pay him that way.

"Once both sides decide they want to get it done," said Stephen Jones, "it doesn't take but five minutes to get a deal done."

The heart of the deal was completed March 12, the day the Cowboys signed former Chargers defensive end Marcellus Wiley.

Stephen Jones spent much of the day on the phone with Condon.

Between conversations, he walked down the short hallway to his father's office to keep him informed about negotiations. Periodically, Parcells poked his head into Jones' office for an update.

"Are we getting close?" the coach asked.

On Friday afternoon, Jerry Jones phoned Casserly and told him Dallas had an agreement with Henson.

"Look, I'm not interested in committing to a conditional adjustment if he does well," Jones said. "How about a four ... I know that's a little different than when we talked."

"If I couldn't do better than that four," Casserly replied, "I'd just let him go back in the draft."

"If that's the case," Jones said, "on a nonconditional basis, I'll go the three."
"We got a deal," Casserly replied.





I see the things you have in bold type, that does nothing more than tell us that BP, was just doing his check of the kid, background checks on the kid and that he did not want to alert writers(and we are not sure that he said anything like that, we all know how writers input their own opinion and twist people words around) also in the meeting with Stephen Jones, it is BP's job to be in the know on how much is being payed to a player, and for all we know he might have been in there telling the Stephen to not over pay this guy, that we are going thru another Hutch experiment and he did not want a lot of money tied up in another guy trying to make up for lost time.

That article can be taken anyway a person wants to comprehend it, we will all know the truth either after this preseason, the regular season or in BP;s next book. We know he will come out with another book about coaching America's team.
 
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