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glimmerman said:
It was a bad outing for us. We got smoked. Especially our Defense. They allowed at least 5 tds on the first 5 drives of the game.

But they for sure got a jump start from the refs in the 1st quarter. Come on. Did saints dbs even look back for the ball. So many broken plays the defender draped all over our WR and went through them with no flag. Never looking for the ball. We had a break up where our defender got there a tick early and they threw that one with no problem.

Lamb was interfered with in the endzone and then another defender came over and hit him helmet to helmet with no flag. Tolbert had a contested one handed catch where the defender was all over him early and never looked for the ball with no flag.

Then early on Lamb had a flag picked up because the ball was not catchable. Was not catchable because he was not allowed to run his route. Instead they called a ticky tack call on our O-Line.

I am sure some will pick and choose other plays we got away with something but the first quarter was obviously one sided calls.
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You can usually tell who is going to win a game just by how the refs are calling a game. A No-call is just as blatant as a bad call....And you could see many of those as well. Sadly....the entire league is like this. It's fixed. Case in point...that KC/Bengals game....4th and 16.....and Mahomes just happens to get bailed out....and KC gets the W. You can basically pencil in the Chiefs going for the 3-peat.
 
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glimmerman said:
It was a bad outing for us. We got smoked. Especially our Defense. They allowed at least 5 tds on the first 5 drives of the game.

But they for sure got a jump start from the refs in the 1st quarter. Come on. Did saints dbs even look back for the ball. So many broken plays the defender draped all over our WR and went through them with no flag. Never looking for the ball. We had a break up where our defender got there a tick early and they threw that one with no problem.

Lamb was interfered with in the endzone and then another defender came over and hit him helmet to helmet with no flag. Tolbert had a contested one handed catch where the defender was all over him early and never looked for the ball with no flag.

Then early on Lamb had a flag picked up because the ball was not catchable. Was not catchable because he was not allowed to run his route. Instead they called a ticky tack call on our O-Line.

I am sure some will pick and choose other plays we got away with something but the first quarter was obviously one sided calls.
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When the opposing team dam near puts a 50 burger on your arse, it aint the refs that is the problem.
 
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KJJ said:
Funny how we never see threads about the officiating when we win.
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Wrong. There have been many after wins.

You have been programmed to think that and that pointing out bad calls is only a reaction to losing.

Thats untrue and bad calls can be discussed without it meaning that’s why we lost. It isn’t why we lost this game. And we are still going to talk about it.

You have a diehard devotion to refs. That’s fine, but it hurts your impartially and ability to access the calls which some think are interesting and relevant.
 
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viman96 said:
Dallas could have received every call and it would not have mattered. The Saints were way more physical than Dallas and executed at a very level.
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Yes. We know that. We aren’t discussing if it would’ve made us win. Simply discussing the calls some feel were bad.
 
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I am not seeing it here. Here is the video @TheMarathonContinues posted in another thread to me. I'll ask you what I asked him. At any point here, do you see the OL pull back on Parsons? Parsons actually has his left hand free and chose to try to dislodge the OL's grip on him with it and then looks like he stumbles downward as he's trying to change directions for a more straight shot at Carr. Go full screen and pause the video, then move the slider back and forth for your own slo-mo looksie. You'll see it seems Parsons actions that make him dip and/or stumble, not the OL pulling him. I'd love to see a reverse angle or close-up of the OL's grip but at least here I can see why it's not a hold. Other posters here have taken care of the other slanderous accusations against the poor, poor, innocent refs just trying to do the best they can.

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I'm not sure what you're looking at because this is a hold all the way.
 
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starfrombirth said:
I'm not sure what you're looking at because this is a hold all the way.
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Yep, you're doing what everyone else is doing in letting your brain take shortcuts for you and assuming instead of actually digging into the video data. Did you do what I suggested above and examine it closely for yourself? You'll see I'm not lying in what I state.

I actually went and grabbed my video and saw the reverse angle replay they showed and there's even more to add. Parsons got a mini chip from the RB but also got hit from behind by the OL that Odiggy dislodged from to lay his hit on Carr. THAT is what made Parsons stumble as he tried to change directions, NOT his OL pulling on him. Even the regular video shows his OL didn't pull him. I didn't make my usual GIF because no one disputed it after I provided details.

But don't just ask me, ask the others who claimed it was a hold before my explanation and then didn't speak on it further after I gave this breakdown. @TheMarathonContinues, @cowboys5xsbs, and even throw in @RonnieT24
 
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MarcusRock said:
Yep, you're doing what everyone else is doing in letting your brain take shortcuts for you and assuming instead of actually digging into the video data. Did you do what I suggested above and examine it closely for yourself? You'll see I'm not lying in what I state.

I actually went and grabbed my video and saw the reverse angle replay they showed and there's even more to add. Parsons got a mini chip from the RB but also got hit from behind by the OL that Odiggy dislodged from to lay his hit on Carr. THAT is what made Parsons stumble as he tried to change directions, NOT his OL pulling on him. Even the regular video shows his OL didn't pull him. I didn't make my usual GIF because no one disputed it after I provided details.

But don't just ask me, ask the others who claimed it was a hold before my explanation and then didn't speak on it further after I gave this breakdown. @TheMarathonContinues, @cowboys5xsbs, and even throw in @RonnieT24
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I don’t know what you want you said you didn’t think it was a hold. They literally call that a hold so I don’t know what to tell you. It doesn’t look like he stumbled.
 
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TheMarathonContinues said:
I don’t know what you want you said you didn’t think it was a hold. They literally call that a hold so I don’t know what to tell you. It doesn’t look like he stumbled.
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Who's "they?" There was no flag on the play, probably because they saw even more than what I initially saw.
 

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MarcusRock said:
I am not seeing it here. Here is the video @TheMarathonContinues posted in another thread to me. I'll ask you what I asked him. At any point here, do you see the OL pull back on Parsons? Parsons actually has his left hand free and chose to try to dislodge the OL's grip on him with it and then looks like he stumbles downward as he's trying to change directions for a more straight shot at Carr. Go full screen and pause the video, then move the slider back and forth for your own slo-mo looksie. You'll see it seems Parsons actions that make him dip and/or stumble, not the OL pulling him. I'd love to see a reverse angle or close-up of the OL's grip but at least here I can see why it's not a hold. Other posters here have taken care of the other slanderous accusations against the poor, poor, innocent refs just trying to do the best they can.

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did exactly what you said and it was pretty obvious? like i know you have a moral obligation to defend the refs, but ... what?
 
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DogFace said:
Wrong. There have been many after wins.

You have been programmed to think that and that pointing out bad calls is only a reaction to losing.

Thats untrue and bad calls can be discussed without it meaning that’s why we lost. It isn’t why we lost this game. And we are still going to talk about it.

You have a diehard devotion to refs. That’s fine, but it hurts your impartially and ability to access the calls which some think are interesting and relevant.
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There haven’t been many after wins. They’ve been started after losses with fans looking for excuses. That’s laughable to think I have a devotion to refs. I’ve been as critical of calls as anyone, but I don’t use them as an excuse for getting our butts whipped. There’s a lot of fans on this board that think the officials and the league are biased against the Cowboys. :rolleyes: Some fans think games are fixed. There’s fans that think the Cowboys haven’t won a championship in almost 30 years because the league is against them. Lol This is a strange fan base.
 
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Officiating had absolutely nothing to do with how the game transpired or the final outcome.
 
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