CFZ Are the Cowboys totally focused on building a championship team?

[rambo2]

And that is all they want to be they want to go into the postseason They Don't Really Care how far they go. There was a chance tgey could win but they were not the favorites to beat anyone but tampa.

They want to win as much as anybody.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

So I wonder at times did the fans and media help make Jerry the way he is. Did the success of Jimmy and the 2 SB's, then Switzer with the 3rd SB create the way Jerry is.
Here is what I mean.

Jimmy built a great team as we know. With the help of the Walker ad Walsh trades. Which there is a debate as to who orchestrated that Walker trade. Jimmy said he did, Jerry said it was his idea.
Anyway they, together go and win 2 SB's. As Jerry had no issue getting players Jimmy wanted or needed, just as the trade for Haley. Also, who's idea was that.

Then the rift, Jimmy wanted to leave, and pushed Jerry's buttons. But I do believe if not for that unfortunate incident, Jimmy would have been here a few years longer. Bad timing for Jerry to walk into that table. So Jerry makes his comment, and in comes Switzer. They get screwed in the 3rd straight NFCCG, then win the SB the following year.
Jerry, in his world, won without Jimmy.

However,
The fans and media, and even some players comments, basically said, it was still Jimmy's team, and was so good they didn't need a HC, as supposedly Switzer was just in cruise control. I believe Aikman made similar comments after Barry was gone. Jerry probably did not like that.

So by Jerry hearing this for a long time, decided he was going to do it his way, and get credit. The thing is it has been 28 years, so even if they win, no one is going to say it was all Jerry, no one will care.
It is like holding a 28 year grudge of some kid bigger tripping one while in 2nd grade. Who cares at this point who gets the credit, it has been way too long of the same mess.

Though I still say it is more like 15 to 20 years, but 10 wasted with Garrett. As when the team was no longer, fans must realize you just can't simply replace the triplets, and still be competitive. There was a rebuild time involved.

Jazz, you nailed everything with this book. Loved it my man.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

If you had a pair of Chimps totally focus in on building a Super Bowl team, would it matter?

 

[CowboyoWales]

When you win 13 games you are a contender.

Yep, a similar scenario to the Rams of 2020, play-off winning side, but just werent the complete package.

 

[doomsday9084]

Just in general, I have got the distinct impression that Jerry would rather be good every season than to be great for a season and then deal with cap hell. That's the undercurrent of this thread and his comments. He doesn't want anymore lean years like the 2000's.

That doesn't rule out a super bowl but it makes it harder as every season there will be multiple teams that are trying to peak while Dallas just tries to maintain.

 

[Rockport]

Our owner has made some very candid public outburst in recent weeks which has supported my opinions this era on his priorities.

This is what I’ve always appreciated about our dysfunctional ownership and front office. In order to appeal to fans criticism and the hounding from media he often displays his honest feelings.

In the past he’s said he’d doing everything within his power to win and no one wants to win more than him but he’s unwilling to make any changes at the top even after admitting he’d of fired a GM with his record this era. Basically this means he only wants to win his way.

He’s also stated that remaining interesting and relative is the most important factor in order to maintain the record revenue hyping and promoting our iconic brand.

More recently he’s stated that going All In isn’t worth the risk as it could lead to lean years needing more of an overall rebuild.

The reason I bring this up is I think it’s time we adjust our expectations here. If our owner isn’t willing to make the decisions and moves to build more than an entertainment entity which simply maintains interest and relativity why are we beating our heads trying to figure out how to build a championship team or critiquing them for not building more than they have.

I’m not sure that’s a core priority anymore. Sure, if we stumbled onto another Super Bowl they’d be ecstatic and more than happy to take credit.

I think they are content with this level of success as it continues driving their record revenue enabling the celebrity status he’s pursued. At age 80 he still seems determined to stay the course of status quo regardless whether he’s delegated some responsibility or not.

He’s still intent on being the face of the franchise and where the buck stops . And the meddling with coaching decisions and players contracts persist which all too often influence the atmosphere , culture and potentially the strategic football mentality.

Until we can move on from these unfortunate priorities and distractions it’s very difficult for me to take this football franchise very serious. It’s become more of a sports entertainment venture which I believe is the core intention in order to prevent more serious pressure from the fans and media. Any success beyond that is purely coincidental or sheer chance.

Every owner wants to win his way. His way just doesn’t work. Also I don’t recall him saying that staying relevant WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

 

[Diehardblues]

Every owner wants to win his way. His way just doesn’t work. Also I don’t recall him saying that staying relevant WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

Do you not understand what winning his way means ?

Jethro’s way means not hiring a GM and normal front office like 30 other NFL teams . He believes he is the best option for the success of Cowboys Football even though he said he’d of fired a GM with his record this era. That was disclosed in an interview with Bob Costas .

And He said that staying relevant and interesting is the initial priority. I looked for a quote to attach but could only find it on the Dallas News publication which isn’t allowed on this site.

 

[MikeT22]

They want to win as much as anybody.

Nope

 

[charron]

They want to win as much anybody.

I dont believe they do. I think they are happy to make the post season and if they win a game or 2 cool. They do not do everything possible to win. They have huge contraints they put on themselves regarding talent aquisition.

 

[rambo2]

I dont believe they do. I think they are happy to make the post season and if they win a game or 2 cool. They do not do everything possible to win. They have huge contraints they put on themselves regarding talent aquisition.

They are real close now.

 

[rambo2]

Nope

They sure do want to win.

 

[MikeT22]

“More recently he’s stated that going All In isn’t worth the risk as it could lead to lean years needing more of an overall rebuild”

this one statement you referenced in your post speaks volumes….Niners and Eagles sensed blood in the water when they realized that Rodgers and Brady weren’t gonna be a factor this season and they both went all in while our BIG signings were “15 plays a game Hankins“ and TY Hilton off the couch

Niners and Eagles also have a good FO and know how to build a team. All four of the Eagles starting DL were former 1st round picks and 3 of SF's were 1st rounders, including both DT's for each team. The Cowboys have ZERO 1st rounders starting on the DL. In fact, since drafting both Ware and Spears in the first in 2005, we have only draft 1 DL in the 1st and that was a monumental bust, Taco Chalton. Not surprising the Eagles and Niners had the two best defenses in the league.

Not to mention they are able to get several top tier starters in the middle of the draft in rounds 3-5, as well as through trades and FA.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

At this point, the obvious conclusion is that it's not about winning for Jerry, it's only about proving himself. If winning happens to happen along the way, so be it.

This is how I interpret what’s going on as well.

Jerry is willing to work long hours to try and get Dallas another championship… but if he just copied another team’s model then it doesn’t matter if he’s GM or not. It has to be his unique method, his plan that wins. That’s what’s important.

It’s better to get close with Jerry’s vision than win with someone else’s.

 

[rambo2]

Niners and Eagles also have a good FO and know how to build a team. All four of the Eagles starting DL were former 1st round picks and 3 of SF's were 1st rounders, including both DT's for each team. The Cowboys have ZERO 1st rounders starting on the DL. In fact, since drafting both Ware and Spears in the first in 2005, we have only draft 1 DL in the 1st and that was a monumental bust, Taco Chalton. Not surprising the Eagles and Niners had the two best defenses in the league.

Not to mention they are able to get several top tier starters in the middle of the draft in rounds 3-5, as well as through trades and FA.

The 49ers have a big question mark at qb. Their 1st round qb may be a bust and their other guy has a busted arm.

 

[MikeT22]

They sure do want to win.

Their actions speak louder than their words. Teams that actually want to win don't have the owner and his family act as the teams GM. They also don't intentionally hire mid to low level yes men HC's due to the owner's ego and desire for credit and the spotlight.

Of course they would prefer to win but they won't do whatever it takes to win if it means they have to give up control and the spotlight.

 

[MikeT22]

The 49ers have a big question mark at qb. Their 1st round qb may be a bust and their other guy has a busted arm.

This was only the 2nd year for their 1st rounder and he was lost for the season early. The 7th round rookie looked better than Dak and his injury isn't career ending lol

 

[charron]

They are real close now.

TBD. they aren't favored to win the division.

 

[shabazz]

Niners and Eagles also have a good FO and know how to build a team. All four of the Eagles starting DL were former 1st round picks and 3 of SF's were 1st rounders, including both DT's for each team. The Cowboys have ZERO 1st rounders starting on the DL. In fact, since drafting both Ware and Spears in the first in 2005, we have only draft 1 DL in the 1st and that was a monumental bust, Taco Chalton. Not surprising the Eagles and Niners had the two best defenses in the league.

Not to mention they are able to get several top tier starters in the middle of the draft in rounds 3-5, as well as through trades and FA.

And what impressed me was the Eagles signing Suh and Joseph mid season to shore up an already deep defensive line and address Injuries. Their GM ain’t playin

 

[Diehardblues]

This is how I interpret what’s going on as well.

Jerry is willing to work long hours to try and get Dallas another championship… but if he just copied another team’s model then it doesn’t matter if he’s GM or not. It has to be his unique method, his plan that wins. That’s what’s important.

It’s better to get close with Jerry’s vision than win with someone else’s.

Right

I’m not sure he’s interested in winning if he’s not going to receive credit for running Cowboys Football.

It’s like that boy that won’t let you play with his ball unless he gets to play.

Owning the Cowboys or any team which he tried to buy the Chargers as well, has always been about a way for him to be a celebrity football guy.

And why he wasn’t interested in winning championships with Jimmy if didn’t receive the credit he was pursuing.

Jethro is intent on him being Face of the Cowboys for better or worse.

 

[Diehardblues]

TBD. they aren't favored to win the division.

Yep

I’m not sure how much closer we are. We were top 4 in NFC this year mainly because previous better teams like LA and GB were down.

But we saw how Phil passed us by in only one season . Will NY pass us by next year. And whoever else might . To be determined .