Are we a better team with Dak or Rush?

Diehardblues

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It’s not even debatable but you know that, just another of your troll posts that you so vigorously call others out for. Stop being a troll, it’s sad you even admit you are trolling, you’re not proving anything except making yourself look like a fool with posts like this.
At least I’m honest about my intentions . Something they need to be called out for . It’s messy work but needs to be done . Only the Dak Hacks disapprove.
 

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At least I’m honest about my intentions . Something they need to be called out for . It’s messy work but needs to be done . Only the Dak Hacks disapprove.
On a crusade are you? Keep telling yourself you’re helping when all you do is wallow in the same crap as you accuse others of, but you’re of course the savior of the zone, a legend in your own mind. Sad really sad.
 

Diehardblues

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On a crusade are you? Keep telling yourself you’re helping when all you do is wallow in the same crap as you accuse others of, but you’re of course the savior of the zone, a legend in your own mind. Sad really sad.
Like I have maintained, only the Dak Haks appear to be bothered by it. Sometimes you have to get dirty to clean it up. It can be a messy job.

I appreciate your contribution here. Thanks
 

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We are better with Dak. The defense played lights out in Daks absence. That helped Cooper a lot…
 

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So QBs are only as good as what round they were drafted in?

That’s an interesting take.

That goes for every position. NFL teams spend millions and millions of dollars each year rating players based on their past playing abilities (college etc) and how they may be used in the pro level. That is the reason for the draft. A player rated as a first round pick is considered to be one of the best in their position and of course the talent level falls as the draft continues.

There will always be some players and play better then their draft position and others that play worse but overall the draft rating is very good.

So again of course Dak being graded as a 4th round pick should be better then a QB that was not even drafted. And as I stated QBs such as Burrow and Mahomes taken in the 1st are not only better but also had much higher potential the what Dak had/has.
 

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Surely all of this rubbish we heard earlier in the season has subsided?

Our offense has been in top 5 since Prescott’s return. We were close to bottom 5 while with Rush.

The winning percentage is similar but I can’t imagine anyone still thinking this team has more potential heading into the playoffs with Rush over Prescott.

That is the perfect moron question to weed out the complete idiots on this site. If you answer:

Rush = Moron
Dak = Not a Moron
 

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The personnel is excellent which elevates both QB's. Dak is a C+/B- QB who gets elevated to a B/B+ QB. Rush is a C-/C+ QB who gets elevated to a B-/B QB. It would be really exciting to have a A-/A/A+ on this team but they can only work with what they have.

Dak is an B+/A- QB that has bad games like any other QB.

Is it Dak's fault that you dont know jack about football?

How much did you hate that last game winning drive last week? Ruin your day? :oldcouple:
 

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That goes for every position. NFL teams spend millions and millions of dollars each year rating players based on their past playing abilities (college etc) and how they may be used in the pro level. That is the reason for the draft. A player rated as a first round pick is considered to be one of the best in their position and of course the talent level falls as the draft continues.

There will always be some players and play better then their draft position and others that play worse but overall the draft rating is very good.

So again of course Dak being graded as a 4th round pick should be better then a QB that was not even drafted. And as I stated QBs such as Burrow and Mahomes taken in the 1st are not only better but also had much higher potential the what Dak had/has.

Rounds should indicate good a player will be, but it’s not that black and white. There’s studs all over the league drafted across a variety of rounds.

Romo is arguably the best QB we’ve had since Aikman and he was undrafted. Better than a laundry list of dudes on the Cowboys that were drafted earlier.
 

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Maybe. And can we both agree your plan to revamp one of the top teams in the league is stupid?
Absolutely not. I’m not a GM, but I do know that Dak is a massive minus next year when he’s using up 50 million of our Cap…I’m not sure why you don’t really understand that… Oh well
 

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Rounds should indicate good a player will be, but it’s not that black and white. There’s studs all over the league drafted across a variety of rounds.

Romo is arguably the best QB we’ve had since Aikman and he was undrafted. Better than a laundry list of dudes on the Cowboys that were drafted earlier.

Sure as I said some players will either out perform or under perform their draft position but overall it's a good theory to play by.....Romo was undrafted, sure he made watching the game fun but we all knew he was never going to win us anything.

Aikman was a first round pick (and the last QB Dallas has drafted in the 1st round) and he won us Superbowls...

Look at several of our first round picks current on the team...Tyler Smith, Parsons, CeeDee etc. All top notch players playing to their draft positions. If Dallas would draft a 1st round QB we just might see the superbowl again.
 
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There is one answer and that id Dak. It's not debatable. If you seriously think this for 5 pages you have a problem. You are concussed. Head for the tent and get checked out.
We all saw the Philly game. Anyone suggesting THAT Cooper Rush helps the team win against Philly in a couple weeks? Stop the madness.
 

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The question is ridiculous, The team is better with Dakota. Now, Dakota will play like top 5 and then he will have you scratching your eyeballs out. Just got to keep the fingers crossed that we get Dak top 5 at the right moment. I know, not easy to live this way.
 

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Sure as I said some players will either out perform or under perform their draft position but overall it's a good theory to play by.....Romo was undrafted, sure he made watching the game fun but we all knew he was never going to win us anything.

Aikman was a first round pick (and the last QB Dallas has drafted in the 1st round) and he won us Superbowls...

Look at several of our first round picks current on the team...Tyler Smith, Parsons, CeeDee etc. All top notch players playing to their draft positions. If Dallas would draft a 1st round QB we just might see the superbowl again.
I would have much more faith in Romo with this current team, but that’s just me.
 

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And the OP says his mission is to seek out and destroy trolls?

I seldom use the word troll but attempting to start a strawman argument over a 7 year guy that costs us 40 million a year and another UDFA with 6 starts making 900K a year, reeks of either trolling or someone who’s common sense went bye bye some time ago

Don't look now but I think you just destroyed a troll
 

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On a crusade are you? Keep telling yourself you’re helping when all you do is wallow in the same crap as you accuse others of, but you’re of course the savior of the zone, a legend in your own mind. Sad really sad.

He's been that way going back to True Blue and his "greggtxsports" days

All opinions are welcomed so long as they closely align with his. LOL
 

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Sure as I said some players will either out perform or under perform their draft position but overall it's a good theory to play by.....Romo was undrafted, sure he made watching the game fun but we all knew he was never going to win us anything.

Aikman was a first round pick (and the last QB Dallas has drafted in the 1st round) and he won us Superbowls...

Look at several of our first round picks current on the team...Tyler Smith, Parsons, CeeDee etc. All top notch players playing to their draft positions. If Dallas would draft a 1st round QB we just might see the superbowl again.

Romo lifted the Cowboys out of the dumpsters and was winning with some pretty bad rosters at times. If you think he’s the reason the Cowboys didn’t have playoff success during his tenure Id wonder if you were actually watching.

Also - go check out all the 1st round QBs, no, all the QBs taken ahead of Dak in his draft class and let me know who’s had a better career.
 

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The comparison is stupid, Rush is like a bad player. And Dak is better but that doesn't make him good. Shine up a turd and it's still a turd.
 

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Romo lifted the Cowboys out of the dumpsters and was winning with some pretty bad rosters at times. If you think he’s the reason the Cowboys didn’t have playoff success during his tenure Id wonder if you were actually watching.

Also - go check out all the 1st round QBs, no, all the QBs taken ahead of Dak in his draft class and let me know who’s had a better
Romo lifted the Cowboys out of the dumpsters and was winning with some pretty bad rosters at times. If you think he’s the reason the Cowboys didn’t have playoff success during his tenure Id wonder if you were actually watching.

Also - go check out all the 1st round QBs, no, all the QBs taken ahead of Dak in his draft class and let me know who’s had a better career.

Romo was nothing more then a gun slinger, again as I said he was fun to watch but he was never going to win us anything. There was a reason all 32 teams passed on him in the draft.

As far as the 2016 draft, no surprise there. It was one of the worst draft class as far as QB's in years. Dak is really the only one that played to his position which was a 4th round pick. That is all that Dak is, trying to build him up to anything more is just foolish. Here we are in 2022 and what has he won us? Nothing and he has had some good players around him and all we hear him say is, I gotta get better, I gotta quit making mistakes etc. There is no getting better, he is what he is. He has reached his peak. This year has to be his best shot, if he doesn't do anything in the playoffs with the players he has around him this year JJ should label him a bust and eat his contract and move on. Everyone around him is aging out and wasting their careers.
 
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