Are we fooling ourselves hitching our wagon to Tony Romo?

[LittleBoyBlue]

Who here thinks that we could possibly be kidding ourselves by hitching our wagon to one undrafted T Romo as our franchise QB for years to come? Don't get me wrong fellas, I was pleasantly surprised in what I saw in TR last season (although he seemed to fade a bit down the stretch). Have we seen the high tide of TR's career already? Just wondering if this is a chancy proposition and if we would be better served moving up in the draft and picking more of a sure thing. These Cinderalla stories don't happen too often. Will TR really be the exception to the rule? I guess it boils down to: is he really something special or just fool's gold.
Let's get some objective, thoughtful opinions going on this very important topic, before we sign this guy to a huge long term extension.
Looking forward to hearing from all.

I think based solely on the fact that we have groomed him for 4 years and he has shown some signs of being able to lead is enough to give him a chance over the next year or so to see where we are with him.

Do we know for sure? No
Do we owe it to him and the franchise to truly find out? YES

Any other QB option at this point is STARTING over... no one wants that... just have some good contingency plans lying in wait... maybe Baker or ?

I lean towards Tony Romo... 65%-35%... that number can go up.... hopefully we see more good play from him than the play of his last 4 or 5 games

 

[TheProphet]

I think based solely on the fact that we have groomed him for 4 years and he has shown some signs of being able to lead is enough to give him a chance over the next year or so to see where we are with him.

Do we know for sure? No
Do we owe it to him and the franchise to truly find out? YES

Any other QB option at this point is STARTING over... no one wants that... just have some good contingency plans lying in wait... maybe Baker or ?

I lean towards Tony Romo... 65%-35%... that number can go up.... hopefully we see more good play from him than the play of his last 4 or 5 games

Fair enough. Well stated.

 

[the kid 05]

Exactly right.

When one guy gets 80% of the snaps there is no competition.

Correct.

And the fact is Romo needs as many reps as he can get.

guess the guys have the ignore feature set up to block common sense

 

[Doomsday101]

For me, Romo just doesn't have enough skins on the wall to hand him the starting job.

I bring in the best QB I can find that fits the budget, and open the competition, and may the best man win.

I understand that point of view. Myself I want to see Romo getting the starters reps not sharing them, I want to see him get all the work with the starting offense not share the time. He is still young and needs all the reps that go with the starter’s job.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I understand that point of view. Myself I want to see Romo getting the starters reps not sharing them, I want to see him get all the work with the starting offense not share the time. He is still young and needs all the reps that go with the starter’s job.

I like Romo, (see my sig pic) but what if we give him all the reps and he isn't the one ?

Afterall, we don't know if he is the one or not.

Lets face it, we saw some things we didn't like from him.

I like competition in training camp for him. Make him earn it over someone else. We should know a lot more after camp and a couple of pre-season games.

Then give the best the most reps.

I hope he is the one, but he has room for improvement if he is going to be our starting QB.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Er, no, it was a legitimate question. You just don't like the person posing it. Some of us would like to see a little more from Tony before turning him into a multi-millionaire. Would you buy an expensive car without test driving it first?

You dont like anything Mikey so why should anyone care what you say?

The analogy is terrible. When purchasing a car at best they will let you take it home over the weekend and let you keepi it two days. Most people expect to keep a car at least 4 years. That is 1/700ths of the time. Weve had Romo for three years PLUS seen him play for more than half. The average life expectancy of a good QB -and im being generous here- is 10 years.

Absolutely horrid analogy and you dont even address what i was trying to say. Amongst his contemporaries its not often that 26 year olds regress without injury.

 

[Doomsday101]

I like Romo, (see my sig pic) but what if we give him all the reps and he isn't the one ?

Afterall, we don't know if he is the one or not.

Lets face it, we saw some things we didn't like from him.

I like competition in training camp for him. Make him earn it over someone else. We should know a lot more after camp and a couple of pre-season games.

Then give the best the most reps.

I hope he is the one, but he has room for improvement if he is going to be our starting QB.

Like any QB that is starting he needs the reps. When Troy was named starter even in the early going he got the reps, if you expect him to mature and get better then he has to have the reps that go with the job. As for mistakes, I have said many times, if you’re getting pressure up the middle and containing the outsides you will stop any QB in the NFL that is why teams pay the big bucks for pass rushers. Dallas has to give Romo better protection and I would say the same thing no matter who the QB was.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Like any QB that is starting he needs the reps. When Troy was named starter even in the early going he got the reps, if you expect him to mature and get better then he has to have the reps that go with the job. As for mistakes, I have said many times, if you’re getting pressure up the middle and containing the outsides you will stop any QB in the NFL that is why teams pay the big bucks for pass rushers. Dallas has to give Romo better protection and I would say the same thing no matter who the QB was.

You're right, if he is the starter, then he gets the reps.

I'm just not sure he should be the starter automatically.

But he probably will be, so I'm guessing he will get the reps.

 

[Doomsday101]

You're right, if he is the starter, then he gets the reps.

I'm just not sure he should be the starter automatically.

But he probably will be, so I'm guessing he will get the reps.

I don't think there is anything automatic about Romo becoming the starter. I think earned the job, he has sat and watched and learned while other QB's came and gone and he has competed and I just think he earned this job. Once he got the job he has performed better than any QB we have had in over 11 years. I think he has paid his dues and I think the team believes in Romo. At this stage I'm tired of the musical QB and would like to see this team move forward with Romo I think he has earned that.

 

[ringmaster]

I am, by far, the biggest QB elitest on this forum. I am all about the pedigree when it comes to QBs. It is the position that I harp on the most. It is the position I coached. I believe you need a good QB to go anywhere.

We are fine with Romo.

He doesn't have a huge arm, but he is accurate, makes good decisions, follows proper progressions on his reads, is smart, athletic, and charismatic so that his team follows him.

Save your hands from wringing and don't pull out your hair.

Oh, and our thoughts on the topic will have nothing to do with whether or not he gets a lucrative, long term contract. I can promise you that. This entire forum could hate him and it wouldn't stop the Cowboys from anything.

I was paying attention to the same things with Romo, in his first whole game starting against Carolina, last season how he was making great decisions with the football and he made a believer out of me that night that he has what it takes to be a top QB, in the NFL.

 

[ringmaster]

I've read reports that he has a strong arm. SI once called him "the strong armed and confident Tony Romo", the year he went undrafted. Can he make all the throws necessary?

That is something you the fan, should judge to me he has an above average arm that can make all of the NFL throws, but not the off the chart arm like Carson Palmer, or Drew Bledsoe for that matter.

The thing most fans, and media people overlook sometimes is the overall abilities of a QB, they look at arm strength as a barometer for a QB's success that term is the most overused and overrated term in football.

It doesn't take a strong arm to succeed in football alot of us know this but some are too stubborn present it.

But I heard some of those same reports as well about his arm strength one thing I notice about Romo, is that when he delivers a pass in the intermediate range it has alot of velocity on it and he puts it right on the money ala Aikman.

I judge a QB, on his poise, decision making, and pass accuracy and Romo, has all of these qualities.

If having strong arm was a important prerequisite to a QB, then Montana, Pennington, Romo, ect wouldn't even been playing football at all.

There are alot of QBs who have stronger arms can't hit the side of a barn in the short to intermediate range and one that comes to mind is Ryan Leaf, who tons of people said during the 1998 NFL Draft, would be better than Peyton Manning because of his "strong arm", and look how that turned out.

Only you the fan can judge.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I like Romo, (see my sig pic) but what if we give him all the reps and he isn't the one ?

Afterall, we don't know if he is the one or not.

Lets face it, we saw some things we didn't like from him.

I like competition in training camp for him. Make him earn it over someone else. We should know a lot more after camp and a couple of pre-season games.

Then give the best the most reps.

I hope he is the one, but he has room for improvement if he is going to be our starting QB.

"If IF was a fifth we'd all be drunk"

You can't operate on "if's".

The FACT is that Tony Romo was 5th in the NFL in passer rating... not 5th from the bottom (like what we're use to) but 5th from the top.

And even over the last quarter of the season when he supposedly "stunk" he was still a better than 80 rated passer.

And guess what? When this team went 1-4 in his last 4 starts (including the playoff game) he still had more TD passes than picks AND he gave the ball to the other team twice via fumbles.

Romo deserves the opportunity to lead this team in 2007 without splitting snaps.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You dont like anything Mikey so why should anyone care what you say?

The analogy is terrible. When purchasing a car at best they will let you take it home over the weekend and let you keepi it two days. Most people expect to keep a car at least 4 years. That is 1/700ths of the time. Weve had Romo for three years PLUS seen him play for more than half. The average life expectancy of a good QB -and im being generous here- is 10 years.

Absolutely horrid analogy and you dont even address what i was trying to say. Amongst his contemporaries its not often that 26 year olds regress without injury.

Agreed.

It was a terrible analogy.

I didn't see trying to create competition for Emmitt Smith after his first year as a starter... nor with Tony D.

 

[WV Cowboy]

"If IF was a fifth we'd all be drunk"

You can't operate on "if's".

The FACT is that Tony Romo was 5th in the NFL in passer rating... not 5th from the bottom (like what we're use to) but 5th from the top.

And even over the last quarter of the season when he supposedly "stunk" he was still a better than 80 rated passer.

And guess what? When this team went 1-4 in his last 4 starts (including the playoff game) he still had more TD passes than picks AND he gave the ball to the other team twice via fumbles.

Romo deserves the opportunity to lead this team in 2007 without splitting snaps.

Relax man, .. that's probably how it will work out anyway.

 

[ringmaster]

Agreed.

It was a terrible analogy.

I didn't see trying to create competition for Emmitt Smith after his first year as a starter... nor with Tony D.

Nice R. Lee Ermey sig.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

That is something you the fan, should judge to me he has an above average arm that can make all of the NFL throws, but not the off the chart arm like Carson Palmer, or Drew Bledsoe for that matter.

The thing most fans, and media people overlook sometimes is the overall abilities of a QB, they look at arm strength as a barometer for a QB's success that term is the most overused and overrated term in football.

It doesn't take a strong arm to succeed in football alot of us know this but some are too stubborn present it.

But I heard some of those same reports as well about his arm strength one thing I notice about Romo, is that when he delivers a pass in the intermediate range it has alot of velocity on it and he puts it right on the money ala Aikman.

I judge a QB, on his poise, decision making, and pass accuracy and Romo, has all of these qualities.

If having strong arm was a important prerequisite to a QB, then Montana, Pennington, Romo, ect wouldn't even been playing football at all.

There are alot of QBs who have stronger arms can't hit the side of a barn in the short to intermediate range and one that comes to mind is Ryan Leaf, who tons of people said during the 1998 NFL Draft, would be better than Peyton Manning because of his "strong arm", and look how that turned out.

Only you the fan can judge.

I would say that Romo has a far better arm than Pennington (yeah, I know who doesn't?).

And if anything I think Romo makes more of the throws that an NFL signal caller would have to make than say Bledsoe who sucks throwing short passes into the flat. To me throwing the ball 65 yards in the air isn't necessary.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I didn't see trying to create competition for Emmitt Smith after his first year as a starter... nor with Tony D.

And yet we had T. Aikman and S. Walsh compete until we picked the best one and the other moved on.

 

[WV Cowboy]

And if anything I think Romo makes more of the throws that an NFL signal caller would have to make than say Bledsoe who sucks throwing short passes into the flat. To me throwing the ball 65 yards in the air isn't necessary.

True.

 

[Doomsday101]

I would say that Romo has a far better arm than Pennington (yeah, I know who doesn't?).

And if anything I think Romo makes more of the throws that an NFL signal caller would have to make than say Bledsoe who sucks throwing short passes into the flat. To me throwing the ball 65 yards in the air isn't necessary.

I agree. Romo arm is strong enough to make the throws and his quick release is also a big assest. I think the main thing Tony needs is a bit better protection up front and a consistant running game. Romo too often was stuck in these 3rd and longs and yet was able to convert the majority of the time.

 

[Doomsday101]

And yet we had T. Aikman and S. Walsh compete until we picked the best one and the other moved on.

Troy was the starter from the get go and the only time Steve saw any action was late in the season when Aikman was injured even in pre-season games Troy was getting the playing time with the starters. Romo has been competing for the last 4 years and has more than earned the job.