At some point, Dak has to take a look in the mirror!

[big dog cowboy]

Archaic scheme that has been tailored to Dak’s archaic skill set.. everybody knows he’s an early progression QB, which is why MM has him bailing pocket after his early reads weren’t there. He also can’t do a traditional 3-5-7 step drop back from center either.

Once again, perfectly nailed.

 

[LovinItAll]

He has to say to himself, i'm the highest paid player on this team, I'm the leader of this team. I don't need to talk about what needs to get done, or becoming better every week, I need to step up my play. I've been in the league far too long, the Jones family has been great to me and have given me and my family generational wealth. It's time for him to find something deep inside of him and say, I'm going to pay them back for what they've done for me!!!! Please give your thoughts on this!

WE DON’T HAVE A GOOD TEAM. IT ISN’T DAK PRESCOTT’S FAULT. HE CAN’T PLAY WR, TE, RB, OL, LB, or CB.

I just don’t understand why people don’t understand.

- 27th in the league in WR separation. No QB consistently succeeds when his receivers can’t get open

- Our OL is either young and inexperienced or old and ineffective. Did you see Martin getting manhandled the entire game against Detroit? He’s supposed to be our best O-lineman. QBs can’t consistently succeed when they have no time to throw the ball

- We don’t have an effective running game. Nobody is afraid of our backfield, so the usual opportunities for play action are almost non-existent. QBs can’t consistently succeed without the threat of play action unless they’re running some sort of option system.

- Our defense can’t stop anyone, leaving us one dimensional offensively. We don’t have the personnel in the receiving corps to have shoot outs against teams. Our only decent TE is playing injured, no Cooks, and that leaves #88. No QB can consistently succeed with our current group of receivers.

Again, we don’t have a QB problem. We have a team problem due to injuries and lack of FO moves to improve key positions. The money Dak makes has nothing to do with any of this. As is usually the case, by the end of his contract, his contract won’t look bloated. There will be a half dozen or more $60MM/yr QBs by then. Can you imagine what problems a young kid would have stepping into the QB position the way the team stands now? We wouldn’t win a game. The ONLY reason we have a chance of winning any games right now is because Dak is our QB.

DAK…IS…NOT…THE…PROBLEM.

 

[RonWashington]

I’ll say this about Dak he says “ I got to do better “. “ it starts with me “ blah blah blah ….publicly he says the right things but nine yrs in the results are reproduced .

At the close of the Jets losing again this time to Buffalo by three Rodgers throws a pass to Mike Williams that at the very least would have allowed the tying FG. Except Mike Williams not only runs the wrong route according to Rodgers , he falls down like the wax progressive dummy in the insurance commercial . His legs go out he’s a heap on the carpet as the Buffalo Bill swoops in for the interception .

Rodgers called him out and justifiably. The press said he “ threw his receiver under the bus “. Wats up with dat thinking in New Yawk ? Are players accountable or wat fella ?

 

[noshame]

Dak has limitations.
They have been covering them up his whole career. Good defenses can, and are, shutting him down. Linehan tried to use Dak's legs. Post injury, Moore tried to use a short horizontal passing game using CeeDee and Pollard. McCarthy tweaked Moores system but good defenses can stifle and smother it, first demonstrated by the 49ers 2 years ago. Now everyone with a average or above talented defense can stop it.
There's only one way to overcome this, Dak has to make difficult tight throws.
Problem being, out of 5 throws, Dak will make 3 good, 1 off target, aka behind or high, and the 5th throw is horrible. (That's best case)
This won't be a good year for Dak, again he will be one of the league leaders in ints.
Sadly I don't have a answer.
Because Jerry is a moron, he could have waited to sign Dak, but he didn't.

It's all I got. It's been 60 years of Cowboys football, I've never been this depressed.

 

[McMicah]

In Daks eyes, he’s already won. Generational wealth, a wife, kids, mansion. People gotta wake up and realize this dude isn’t even 40, and while he acts like a mature guy and leader, he’s still a human. That’s why ‘leadership’ matters so very little in this game.

In truth, Dak has always had a really solid O Line his whole career, and pretty good RBs. Also, he’s had legs to scramble with until this year. Something tells me him being in a. Boot in the offseason means he’s staying in the pocket from here on out. Now his tab is so high the team can’t afford to give him those things, and you are watching a 4th round draft pick with obvious flaws in consistency, competence, and accuracy, and no more mobility play football on a mediocre to bad team.

This is your reality for 4 more years

 

[shabazz]

He can look in the mirror, but the GM should look in the mirror too for the roster he put around Dak

This season i can't bag on any Qb that has this kind of team around them.

I told yall that I would be honest in my assessment of Dak and the prior years he's had some great talent around him......but this year?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well if the offense was capable of more than 14 plays for -1 yards over 20 minutes to end the first half of the Lions game he may have had his chance. 2 three and outs, a turnover on downs, and a FG after 3 plays following a 79 yard kickoff return. What an incredible offensive explosion, wouldn't you agree?

As bad as the defense is I bet they were wishing they could stand on the sidelines for more than 1:22 watching the offense choke just as bad as they are before having to get back out there.

4 drives, 14 plays for -1 yard, 4:06 TOP, over 20 minutes of the game, when the outcome was still close.

Dak and your boy need to look at that just as much as wondering what the defense is doing. Make no mistake, neither side of the ball is without blame.

Precisely. Dak Defenders incessantly point to defense for losing games, and it does indeed have issues. But the offense is crippling it....no rest no points. Like our defense has to battle both offenses and that is no win situation.

 

[starfan1]

Precisely. Dak Defenders incessantly point to defense for losing games, and it does indeed have issues. But the offense is crippling it....no rest no points. Like our defense has to battle both offenses and that is no win situation.

I wont argue that the offense doesn't need to improve but if you look at the time of possession stats its not as lopsided as you would think. Dallas does hold the ball a fair amount they just don't score td's. Its true the opponent has held the ball longer in all but 1 game though.

the defense is giving up points at historical levels and its not because they are worn out its because they suck! BAD!!! The offense is 1 dimensional and to my surprise the OL is worse than last year. I didn't think that would happen.I thought at the very worst it would be a push.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/time-of-possession-in-a-game-by-dallas-this-season

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I wont argue that the offense doesn't need to improve but if you look at the time of possession stats its not as lopsided as you would think. Dallas does hold the ball a fair amount they just don't score td's. Its true the opponent has held the ball longer in all but 1 game though.

the defense is giving up points at historical levels and its not because they are worn out its because they suck! BAD!!! The offense is 1 dimensional and to my surprise the OL is worse than last year. I didn't think that would happen.I thought at the very worst it would be a push.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/time-of-possession-in-a-game-by-dallas-this-season

All good points. I certainly didn't check my facts there. The points certainly are an issue.

 

[irishline]

I wont argue that the offense doesn't need to improve but if you look at the time of possession stats its not as lopsided as you would think. Dallas does hold the ball a fair amount they just don't score td's. Its true the opponent has held the ball longer in all but 1 game though.

the defense is giving up points at historical levels and its not because they are worn out its because they suck! BAD!!! The offense is 1 dimensional and to my surprise the OL is worse than last year. I didn't think that would happen.I thought at the very worst it would be a push.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/time-of-possession-in-a-game-by-dallas-this-season

I will not argue any of that. But, from my post that he was quoting:

"4 drives, 14 plays for -1 yard, 4:06 TOP, over 20 minutes of the game, when the outcome was still close."

This isn't about the defense being gassed. It is about the offense doing anything when the game is on the line before they have to become one-dimensional. If they were just able to put 1 drive together and score one TD in those 20 minutes of the first half, we could have kept the Lions from scoring a TD late and gone into the half down 20-13 instead of 27-6.

Against the Ravens, we were down 14-3, what the the offense do? Fumble, 3 and out, 3 and out, before a short field goal drive right before the half. Then they start the 2nd half with a punt then a turnover on downs. By that time the game was all but over.

The Saints game was all on the defense, not going to argue that, but even in the three wins this offense disappeared for long stretches.

We have invested 50% more salary on our offense than our defense (40 million more this season), they should be controlling the TOP and limiting opponent opportunities, it's where we spend our resources. We are literally built as an offensive team.

We have the 4th most expensive offense in the NFL this season and they are ranked 29th in time of possession, 14th in yards per game, 21st in points per game, and 31st in giveaways (one away from last in the NFL). This isn't just because of Dak's extension either, we were ranked 5th last season, 2nd in 2022, and 2nd in 2021 in offensive spending.

We have the 25th most expensive defense in the NFL this season and they are ranked 24th in yards, 29th in points per game, 29th in time of possession, and 21st in takeaways.

This is the problem, we are looking at both sides of the ball as if they should be equals, but we really should be looking at the fact that we are a spend-heavy, offensive-minded team. It is what we have been for years. The defense sucks. Yes, they do, but given the resources spent on the other side of the ball, the offense sucks just as bad.

We give Quinn a lot of flack lately but given what he has had to work with, he did a great job, they over-performed most of the time. The truth is this defense (without top coaching) is closer to what we see now than what we saw last year (though I didn't expect it to fall quite this much).

Honestly, both sides of the ball are shooting the other side in the foot right now. Not blaming just the players or the coaching. It is everything. We are built wrong. We have invested poorly for the returns we are seeing. We are just a bad football team right now everywhere but special teams. And it all starts at the very top.

 

[diamonddelts]

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DAK…IS…NOT…THE…PROBLEM.

What happened vs. SF in those playoff games?

 

[starfan1]

I will not argue any of that. But, from my post that he was quoting:

"4 drives, 14 plays for -1 yard, 4:06 TOP, over 20 minutes of the game, when the outcome was still close."

This isn't about the defense being gassed. It is about the offense doing anything when the game is on the line before they have to become one-dimensional. If they were just able to put 1 drive together and score one TD in those 20 minutes of the first half, we could have kept the Lions from scoring a TD late and gone into the half down 20-13 instead of 27-6.

Against the Ravens, we were down 14-3, what the the offense do? Fumble, 3 and out, 3 and out, before a short field goal drive right before the half. Then they start the 2nd half with a punt then a turnover on downs. By that time the game was all but over.

The Saints game was all on the defense, not going to argue that, but even in the three wins this offense disappeared for long stretches.

We have invested 50% more salary on our offense than our defense (40 million more this season), they should be controlling the TOP and limiting opponent opportunities, it's where we spend our resources. We are literally built as an offensive team.

We have the 4th most expensive offense in the NFL this season and they are ranked 29th in time of possession, 14th in yards per game, 21st in points per game, and 31st in giveaways (one away from last in the NFL). This isn't just because of Dak's extension either, we were ranked 5th last season, 2nd in 2022, and 2nd in 2021 in offensive spending.

We have the 25th most expensive defense in the NFL this season and they are ranked 24th in yards, 29th in points per game, 29th in time of possession, and 21st in takeaways.

This is the problem, we are looking at both sides of the ball as if they should be equals, but we really should be looking at the fact that we are a spend-heavy, offensive-minded team. It is what we have been for years. The defense sucks. Yes, they do, but given the resources spent on the other side of the ball, the offense sucks just as bad.

We give Quinn a lot of flack lately but given what he has had to work with, he did a great job, they over-performed most of the time. The truth is this defense (without top coaching) is closer to what we see now than what we saw last year (though I didn't expect it to fall quite this much).

Honestly, both sides of the ball are shooting the other side in the foot right now. Not blaming just the players or the coaching. It is everything. We are built wrong. We have invested poorly for the returns we are seeing. We are just a bad football team right now everywhere but special teams. And it all starts at the very top.

I going to be honest I scanned through the thread and didn't read the post he quoted. Not going to disagree the offense needs to do better that's not up for debate. The amount of resources Jerry has paid for the offense has 0 bearing to me. Jerry is known to not spend when he has the resources.He goes bargain bin hunting every year and we fizzle out every year and its not the reason the defense sucks. The offense not being a effective plays a role i get it but a much smaller one than the defense. against the Lions we didn't see the punter all day. against the Ravens and Saints we didn't see him very much and most of that was when the game was out of reach.

We don't play complimentary football at all. against Detroit the game you are talking the cowboys first 2 possession 9 plays each ended in FG and end zone pick so ya if they score more its a game but i just need to see a little more from both sides but especially defensively. They are ranked 24th on defense. I think 14 on offense their issue is more cashing in on their red zone attempts.

watching the cowboys get gashed on the ground and through the air like they do is painful. not that the offense isn't at times.This team is flawed from the booth upstairs to the water boy there's not alot I disagree with what you said

 

[starfan1]

What happened vs. SF in those playoff games?

TEAM loss but we've hashed that out for years.

 

[diamonddelts]

In Daks eyes, he’s already won. Generational wealth, a wife, kids, mansion. People gotta wake up and realize this dude isn’t even 40, and while he acts like a mature guy and leader, he’s still a human. That’s why ‘leadership’ matters so very little in this game.

In truth, Dak has always had a really solid O Line his whole career, and pretty good RBs. Also, he’s had legs to scramble with until this year. Something tells me him being in a. Boot in the offseason means he’s staying in the pocket from here on out. Now his tab is so high the team can’t afford to give him those things, and you are watching a 4th round draft pick with obvious flaws in consistency, competence, and accuracy, and no more mobility play football on a mediocre to bad team.

This is your reality for 4 more years

Yet you were having a hard time finding a weakspot in the roster. Ray Charles says hello.

 

[wssaustin]

He can look in the mirror, but the GM should look in the mirror too for the roster he put around Dak

This season i can't bag on any Qb that has this kind of team around them.

I told yall that I would be honest in my assessment of Dak and the prior years he's had some great talent around him......but this year?

Two words, Salary Cap.
It is a simple mechanism, but some people refuse to admit its existence.

 

[OGSixshooter]

WE DON’T HAVE A GOOD TEAM. IT ISN’T DAK PRESCOTT’S FAULT. HE CAN’T PLAY WR, TE, RB, OL, LB, or CB.

I just don’t understand why people don’t understand.

- 27th in the league in WR separation. No QB consistently succeeds when his receivers can’t get open

- Our OL is either young and inexperienced or old and ineffective. Did you see Martin getting manhandled the entire game against Detroit? He’s supposed to be our best O-lineman. QBs can’t consistently succeed when they have no time to throw the ball

- We don’t have an effective running game. Nobody is afraid of our backfield, so the usual opportunities for play action are almost non-existent. QBs can’t consistently succeed without the threat of play action unless they’re running some sort of option system.

- Our defense can’t stop anyone, leaving us one dimensional offensively. We don’t have the personnel in the receiving corps to have shoot outs against teams. Our only decent TE is playing injured, no Cooks, and that leaves #88. No QB can consistently succeed with our current group of receivers.

Again, we don’t have a QB problem. We have a team problem due to injuries and lack of FO moves to improve key positions. The money Dak makes has nothing to do with any of this. As is usually the case, by the end of his contract, his contract won’t look bloated. There will be a half dozen or more $60MM/yr QBs by then. Can you imagine what problems a young kid would have stepping into the QB position the way the team stands now? We wouldn’t win a game. The ONLY reason we have a chance of winning any games right now is because Dak is our QB.

DAK…IS…NOT…THE…PROBLEM.

yeah, yeah...if we got a mobile QB I bet we score more than 9 points with a field goal kicker who has a range from Mars. 9 points in today's NFL...with that kicker...is beyond pathetic. Dak is the problem.

 

[OGSixshooter]

What happened vs. SF in those playoff games?

He's gonna say CeeDee ran the wrong route. He was in the huddle.

 

[Coogiguy03]

He's gonna say CeeDee ran the wrong route. He was in the huddle.

loooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[Bullflop]

Nobody has to care for Dak as the team's QB but these are P.O.S. poster comments right here. Even Kermit is jealous of the green y'all got going on. Lol.

It's for sure he ain't inclined to do his shopping at thrift stores, like I do.

Why shop Target when you get shirts & pants for $5.99. Frugality is in.

Getting by with a $60,000,000 setup must really be a nice way to live!

 

[morat1959]

Dak doesn’t have another level of play. He’s the same as he’s always been. I’ve detailed his many limitations for years. Although the nfl has dumbed down the league as a whole for the QB position, no team with Dak under center will ever win a SB.