Audio: Jerry Jones lays down the law!!!

[Alexander]

3. The team is not abandoning ship. Why this is not taken into account is beyond me. The players do not criticize the way things are run.

Why would they criticize the way things are when the coach cannot hold them accountable? That sounds like a great set up.

They should love Jerry Jones. They'll get paid no matter what and given his generousity and blind eye, there shouldn't be any other owner they would want to play for. Take Roy Williams for example. He'll start regardless of what anyone says as long as Jerry Jones says so. He's the only one you have to keep happy.

 

[CATCH17]

I just wonder what the rallying cry will be once we win a playoff game and the "13 years without" will no longer hold.

Because we all know that's an incredibly arbitrary point. The Skins and Raiders have won playoff games since we have, but no one would rather be them. At least, no reasonable person would.

If I could make a poll, I'd start one on this.

My thoughts exactly.

Whats it going to be when we actually win a playoff game.

 

[yimyammer]

Jimmy pretty much sums up what many people think:

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[Doomsday]

That was a really good interview with Jimmy. I though he was spot on during the whole thing.

 

[Dodger12]

Secondly, why put money in Snyder's wallet? The same with Jerry. If you hit him in the wallet and he sees the ratings go down on his game, he's likely to eventually change the way he does things.

I completely agree with this and it's far different than going to root for another team. I went to Pittsburg and Philly last year, spent good money, and was so incensed with this team and their circus that I swore I wouldn't feed into the money maching and this futility until Jerry made some real changes. Now, truth be told, I'd love to take my 11 year old son to Dallas to see the team play live and learn a little bit about the history of the Cowboys. But it won't happen right now. Will it make a difference, probably not especially since the large majority of season tickets have already been sold and Jerry's going ot make money either way. But if this futility continues and the "newness" of the stadium has worn off, then maybe Jerry will feel the pinch in terms of lower merchandise and concession sales.

Whether we like it or not, Jerry Jones IS the Dallas Cowboys. If you hate him so much and you believe that all he brings is failure to the team that will never get sorted out as long as he's owner and gm, boycott the team and/or find another team to root for.

I don't believe for one second that Jerry IS the Cowboys. He may believe that in his own mind since he owns the team. Was Clint Murchison and/or Bum Bright THE Dallas Cowboys when they owned the team? Was Rodger, Tex, Landry or any other individual player THE Cowboys when they played? Was Jimmy Johnson, who was arguably the single most responsible decision maker and architect of the dynasty THE Dallas Cowboys? Heck no and neither is Jerry, except in his own mind and that of a segment of the fan base that suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.

It's alright to complain from time to time, but it's obvious that no matter what Jerry does short of winning a Super Bowl, they will hate Jerry and complain about him. If he didn't own the team, then there would be hope that he would be fired, but he's not going to fire himself unless he gets hit in the wallet and in the TV ratings.YAKUZA

For me, the SB will always be the standard for this team. The hell with moral victories for winning a playoff game; lets leave that mentality for the Cardinals. The Yanks are the single most successful baseball franchise in the history of the sport. Nothing short of a World Series ring, at any cost, is acceptable. Why should my team be any different because it's run by an egomaniac?

Right now, Jerry's going to ride Romo and his marketing bonanza as far as his immagination can take him. Romo alone can keep this team competitive, IMO. But I look at it as lost opportunities every year we waste with yes men coaches, a fantasy football owner and circus atmospheres that undermine the team and the season. Once again the Cowboys have a franchise QB who can do special things on the field and is shattering records each and every game he plays. But he's in his late 20's and the window is closing. If we don't win with Romo, then it's going to be a painful wait when this kid calls it quits.

 

[Dodger12]

Unfortunately, I believe you overestimate some of these people.

And you underestimate the emotional investment and passion than these fans have for the Cowboys.

 

[Dodger12]

I just wonder what the rallying cry will be once we win a playoff game and the "13 years without" will no longer hold.

My thoughts exactly.

Whats it going to be when we actually win a playoff game.

The sad reality is that we as fans have come to accept a lower standard of what we define as success for this team by just hoping to win a playoff game. Our expectations have been tempered. This team was once measured by Superbowls and competing for them. That's probably the biggest indictment of what jerry has done to this team and it's fan base, IMO.

Again, my point is made. The lowered expectations for our team is just sad.

 

[jobberone]

Why would they criticize the way things are when the coach cannot hold them accountable? That sounds like a great set up.

They should love Jerry Jones. They'll get paid no matter what and given his generousity and blind eye, there shouldn't be any other owner they would want to play for. Take Roy Williams for example. He'll start regardless of what anyone says as long as Jerry Jones says so. He's the only one you have to keep happy.

All though we generally agree on things we don't here. You say Wade doesn't hold the team accountable. How do you know Wade doesn't do that? He fines them the max amount allowable. He just doesn't scream about it.

How do you know Wade would start RW no matter what and esp if Jerry told him to? You're making arguments based on mind reading prophecies. As are most of the people in this thread.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Again, my point is made. The lowered expectations for our team is just sad.

How was your point made? Because what I said didn't have anything to do with what you said.

My point was that all the doomsayers trot out the "No playoff wins in 13 years!!!" at every opportunity, when we all know that winning one wouldn't stop their cries one bit. They'd just move on to something else.

 

[DallasEast]

Unfortunately, [strike]I believe[/strike] you overestimate some of these people.

That's better.

 

[utrunner07]

I listened to the same clip not exactly how you are putting it.

You still want to argue Wade is not a puppet?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I just wonder what the rallying cry will be once we win a playoff game and the "13 years without" will no longer hold.

Because we all know that's an incredibly arbitrary point. The Skins and Raiders have won playoff games since we have, but no one would rather be them. At least, no reasonable person would.

If I could make a poll, I'd start one on this.

I believe most people would be happy

 

[utrunner07]

Wade's record is better than Parcells. That enough for you.

Wade has 100X the talen Parcells had.

 

[STSINAZ]

I believe most people would be happy

its a freakin joke its not even funny all the guy had to say was well there are alot of other teams that are not run this way...bottom line...and they are successful, you can see wade, knowing he has no pull,,probably has to talk to jerry about pulling a player...he looks drained, maybe the way parcells was at the end because jerry probably starting getting more involved..but in the contract bill had final say on players or a major say as i was told,, dont know exactly how it was written, a guy who worked at bravo's in greenwood indiana was good friends with fabini who i guess was from here in indi,,,,he said what i just wrote about bill...and big bill went for his extension before the last year and big jerry said bill we are not extending you, you have a contract and it has a year left on it...big bill didnt want to be a lame duck coach so he bailed..honest to god truth thats what i was told....i think jerry was like look you arent winning and i am going to move on.....but the problem is jerry set this team back so far that it took too long for bill to get it back going, especially with the way jerry would add players that bill didnt want to...anthony thomas, eddie george, peerless price and THE BIGGEST ONE OF THEM ALL T.O.

 

[Hostile]

Why would they criticize the way things are when the coach cannot hold them accountable? That sounds like a great set up.

They should love Jerry Jones. They'll get paid no matter what and given his generousity and blind eye, there shouldn't be any other owner they would want to play for. Take Roy Williams for example. He'll start regardless of what anyone says as long as Jerry Jones says so. He's the only one you have to keep happy.

Some players care more about being paid than winning.

An entire 53 man roster does?

Nah, sell me some ocean front property in Nebraska. It'd be an easier sell.

 

[jobberone]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jobberone
Wade's record is better than Parcells. That enough for you.

Wade has 100X the talen Parcells had.

I understand your sarcasm but Wade has a better record here than Parcells did. I freely admit he started with a better base than Parcells did. So kudos to Parcell for that. The fact still remains to counter another's argument.

Life is colorful. It's not black and white.

 

[percyhoward]

"Jerry Jones is a billionaire fan who bought his own team for the express purpose of buying his way into the game. He wants to hang out with the players, stand in front of the cameras, be the face of the team (yech), make personnel moves as if this were a video game, and more than anything else, be seen as the guy who made it all happen."

Esto.

 

[speedkilz88]

I don't believe for one second that Jerry IS the Cowboys. He may believe that in his own mind since he owns the team. Was Clint Murchison and/or Bum Bright THE Dallas Cowboys when they owned the team? Was Rodger, Tex, Landry or any other individual player THE Cowboys when they played? Was Jimmy Johnson, who was arguably the single most responsible decision maker and architect of the dynasty THE Dallas Cowboys? Heck no and neither is Jerry, except in his own mind and that of a segment of the fan base that suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.

I have to disagree. It's yes to all of the above. Jerry is the Cowboys. Clint Muchison, Bum Bright, Rodger, Tex, Landry, and Jimmy Johnson are all the Dallas Cowboys--and us fans you better believe ... are the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Wade has 100X the talen Parcells had.

For the most part, yes...outside of 2006.

We had Julius and Marion in the backfield, but something tells me that Parcells would never have wanted Felix.

Martellus is better than Fasano, but Parcells picked Fasano.

Owens, Glenn and Crayton over Miles, Roy and Crayton? I think so.

Bigg is far better than Marco Rivera, but it was Parcells who wanted Marco and I think it would've been pulling teeth to get Parcells to bring in Bigg.

I'd rather have Olshansky over Canty, but I don't think Igor is more talented, just a better run stopper at a much cheaper price.

Brooking is far better than Ayodele. Bradie is much better now than Bradie in the Parcells era, though it's Parcells' fault for having him play at 265 lbs. I like Spencer over Ellis.

Scandrick, Jenkins and Newman over 2006 Newman, Henry and Aaron Glenn? I think that's a push at best.

Sensabaugh and Hamlin over Roy and Keith Davis, no doubt. But it seemed like Parcells was steadfast against going after a free safety high in the draft or paying a FA good money to play FA. I'm not that impressed with Hamlin's play the past year or so, but he's far better than Davis, Watkins, Lynn Scott and whomever we would try over there.

Parcells wanted to go cheap with kickers and paid a heavy price for it. We drafted Folk and Beuhler. Parcells may have drafted a kicker, but he would have never drafted Beuhler.

I'm a big Parcells fan, but he certainly made his fair share of mistakes in Dallas and if Wade had more talent than Parcells, it was often times because Parcells wanted certain guys and avoided certain guys and/or just didn't want to put money/draft picks into certain positions.






YAKUZA

 

[Bach]

Not only that, Jimmy had never coached in the NFL game before nor played in the NFL. How many coaches who have never seen any time in the NFL as a player or as a coach have had success when they became a HC in the league?




YAKUZA

Jimmy is one of them.