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Sarge said:
Agreed. Bledsoe is here for 2 years, most likely. We're preparing a lot of young guys (particularly on defense) who will be primed and ready to go in 2-3 years then what..................we'll need a new QB.

Parcells is so good for this team in so many ways, but when it comes to timing, the whole thing stinks. We have a coach that will be leaving in a year or 2 and a QB that is leaving in 2 years most likely.

I too would rather prepare for the 'big prize' than win a token playoff game here or there before bowing out.

It is what it is however. Can't complain too much because there is definite improvement in this team.

My problem is that, ultimately, I know Drew Bledsoe will never win a championshiip, either here, or anywhere else.

At least he's been to the SuperBowl and he has won two championships, all be it AFC.

The plan was for Bledsoe to be here two to three years, and then for Henson to be ready from there. That was the plan. You cannot blame the organization for the fact that Henson is not excelling to the point that they had planned on him being at. If you look at it on paper, it was a pretty good plan and who can blame the organiztion for laying it out that way. Parcells gets Bledsoe for his run. Then Payton was supposed to take over at the same time that Henson was ready to take over. Shouldn't have missed a beat. At this point, it appears that Henson isn't holding up his end of the deal, yet. Maybe he will. But you certainly cannot blame the team for setting it up that way.
 

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I laughed the moment they called Losman's name in the draft. I will admit that I hate the guy, I have for years. He never impressed me at all in college and the ESPN mic-ed thing with him in the draft sealed the deal for me.

I could not believe that anyone could be so arrogant.
 

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BlueWave said:
At least he's been to the SuperBowl and he has won two championships, all be it AFC.

The plan was for Bledsoe to be here two to three years, and then for Henson to be ready from there. That was the plan. You cannot blame the organization for the fact that Henson is not excelling to the point that they had planned on him being at.

We're laughing at how stupid the Bills are for wanting a new rookie QB to start a year after they get him, and yet we're confused that Henson isn't ready to start a year after we get him.

If it's going to take 2-3 years it'll take 2-3 years.

David.
 

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dwmyers said:
We're laughing at how stupid the Bills are for wanting a new rookie QB to start a year after they get him, and yet we're confused that Henson isn't ready to start a year after we get him.

If it's going to take 2-3 years it'll take 2-3 years.

David.

Agreed, but I cannot blame fans for expecting Henson to at least put up a good fight for the backup role this year. By most reports, he is not. There are still some people who think he may be cut and put on the practice squad if he clears waivers (and maybe they are secretly hoping he won't). I hope he comes up big tonight, or else.....
 

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dwmyers said:
We're laughing at how stupid the Bills are for wanting a new rookie QB to start a year after they get him, and yet we're confused that Henson isn't ready to start a year after we get him.

If it's going to take 2-3 years it'll take 2-3 years.

David.
Took the words right out of my mouth!
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
Haha, Mikey.

I find it so, well, wierd, that my entire hopes for this season are wrapped up in, of all people, Leadfoot.

And it's more than just the season...it's the final chapter of Bill's career. Tuna lives or dies with Bledsoe this year, and who's to say if he has the energy to start all over again next year?

That this man should wield so much power is flabbergasting. He can make or break a Cowboys season depending on whether he can carry a defense sure to experience growing pains, and he can send a future Hall of Fame coach into final retirement, or write a happier final ending to the story.

I can't help but wish, hope, pray for Drew's success with every fiber of my being. As much as I want to see Henson, sooner not later, this year is ALL about DB.

And on a good day, Mikey, I can convince myself what we both saw these past four or five years was an illusion. On a REAL good day I can even pretend Drew doesn't look much less comfy than Vinnie T did this time last year.

I think I need to put Drew in my signature. No sarcasm - to show my total support and the degree of my hopes for him.

An excellent post and another eloquent one at that.
 

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Sarge said:
Agreed. Bledsoe is here for 2 years, most likely. We're preparing a lot of young guys (particularly on defense) who will be primed and ready to go in 2-3 years then what..................we'll need a new QB.

Parcells is so good for this team in so many ways, but when it comes to timing, the whole thing stinks. We have a coach that will be leaving in a year or 2 and a QB that is leaving in 2 years most likely.

I too would rather prepare for the 'big prize' than win a token playoff game here or there before bowing out.

It is what it is however. Can't complain too much because there is definite improvement in this team.

My problem is that, ultimately, I know Drew Bledsoe will never win a championshiip, either here, or anywhere else.

Sarge, you know I've been with you on most takes, and wasnt thrilled about acquiring Bledsoe either...

but if mediocre guys like Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Brad Johnson & Trent Dilfer can win rings, Drew Bledsoe can too...the common denominator of all of those was a very strong supporting cast...if they put the right pieces in place around Bledsoe, he can win too

David
 

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jobberone said:
An excellent post and another eloquent one at that.
Thanks, my friend, and I can't wait to get one of THESE in the right uniform :)

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Now, because I am growing superstitious in my old age....

please excuse me while I go give blood at the local drive. AGAIN.

I've convinced myself that's the only way to keep Terry healthy this year. :rolleyes:
 

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dbair1967 said:
Sarge, you know I've been with you on most takes, and wasnt thrilled about acquiring Bledsoe either...

but if mediocre guys like Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Brad Johnson & Trent Dilfer can win rings, Drew Bledsoe can too...the common denominator of all of those was a very strong supporting cast...if they put the right pieces in place around Bledsoe, he can win too

David

Can't argue with that David, I agree all hope is not lost. Call it gut instinct or whatever, but I just can't get comfortable with Bledsoe at the helm. I had the same feeling with QC and again with Vinny.

You're also correct about the supporting cast. Maybe I just see the glass as half broken ;) , but the OL has some question marks on it as well.

I simply think that this team has made great strides in getting better, but ultimately, the QB position will have to be readdressed to be where we want to be.

IMO/FWIW.
 

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dbair1967 said:
Sarge, you know I've been with you on most takes, and wasnt thrilled about acquiring Bledsoe either...

but if mediocre guys like Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Brad Johnson & Trent Dilfer can win rings, Drew Bledsoe can too...the common denominator of all of those was a very strong supporting cast...if they put the right pieces in place around Bledsoe, he can win too

David

Nice post. I agree. There is more than one way to skin a cat in the NFL, as it pertains to success. IMHO, there is that faction of Cowboy fans that desperately need their franchise quarterback. And they won't settle for anything but.

Truth of the matter is, that quarterback may not be on the roster and won't be here for some time. The good news is, it's not a requisite anymore as far as the league goes.

Dunno if I blame the Bills for moving forward withr Losman or any young QB and cutting lose of Drew Bledsoe. But it is going to be a while before they really know what they have in Losman. The best thing for them to do now is begin learning about him. And that take time.
 

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Sarge said:
You're also correct about the supporting cast. Maybe I just see the glass as half broken ;)

:laugh2:

Sarge you just gave me my "laugh of the day!"
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
BW, I treat sports just like I do my businesses. I don't expect to crack $30K in month in sales within the first 30 days... it takes time. You build one success on another. You give me some improvement with the young guys that have come in on defense along with Pettiti playing OK at RT and I'm happy with a 9-7 and a chance to improve our WR and QB positions in the offseason. I'm not about the "playoffs". I'm after the big prize.
The difference is in your business you are an expert. You can see when time and money invested will pay off. I think it is safe to say you do not have that expertise in football. At QB I am not sure any person does at all, but especially not any fans.

I find it nonsensical for you to assume Blesdoe can't take us to the Super Bowl when he has actually already been to a Super Bowl but you do assume a guy who can't complete 50% of his NFL passes can in time.

I understand your reservations with Bledsoe up to a point but anyone arguing we have better options on this roster are witch doctoring at best.

Super Bowl QBs nowadays are seldom Super. Brady has been extremely good but the guy has an average arm at best. He is middling in every physical category. No one saw him as a franchise guy even after 1 Super Bowl win. Recent Super Bowls are plenty of evidence you need a good team to go to the Super Bowl not just a good QB. See Peyton Mannings track record as an example.

2 years ago we won 10 games and made the playoffs, "in spite of" Carter at QB. If we learned anything I think it is that we fell asleep at the wheel after that and didn't upgrade the other 21 starting positions. VT was probably about as good as Carter yet we lost 4 more games and were no where near as competitive.

Its easy to talk Super Bowl or bust but you have to walk before you can run.
In 2 years perhaps Dallas grabs a young guy who has developed such as David Garrard. Someone who has taken snaps and proven they can play a bit. Carolina tried to draft their QB a couple of times then signed Delhomme as an afterthought and went to the SB. The answer is simple. If you have a hole, fill it. Draft guys and develop them but where they fail move on and sign guys to fill holes. We drafted Jacob Rogers in round 2 and Rob P in round 6. Should we continue to hang onto Rogers because he has more potential or go with the guy who is actually better right now and seems to know what this game is all about?

With Philly signing Kearse and TO it seems even they have learned some free agent dough will have to be expended.


The beautiful thing about having BP as coach is that he comes with 40+ years football experience and is consistent in his philosophy. He plays younger guys were they are close to as good as veterans but plays the better player for the season at hand not 3 years from now. 3 years from now isn't promised to any of us and writing off the right now just turns the team into losers.
 

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Bledsoe is a known commodity. He can get you to the big dance. And I think he can win it.

He will take the Cowboys as far as the team is capable of. Parcells will make him look as good as he can be. And Parcells knows what he has to work with.

The rest of the Cowboys need to be just as dependable and consistent.
 

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Juke99 said:
For a bugle player, that Sarge is a funny guy.

:D

...and it's amazing where you can stick, er place, :eek: a bugle these days.

:D
 

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Sarge said:
Can't argue with that David, I agree all hope is not lost. Call it gut instinct or whatever, but I just can't get comfortable with Bledsoe at the helm. I had the same feeling with QC and again with Vinny.

You're also correct about the supporting cast. Maybe I just see the glass as half broken ;) , but the OL has some question marks on it as well.

I simply think that this team has made great strides in getting better, but ultimately, the QB position will have to be readdressed to be where we want to be.

IMO/FWIW.

Man, those are my exact feelings about Bledsoe. I just am not feeling all that comfortable. But at the same time, I am not comfortable with Henson or Romo being ready yet. For sure, Romo, I dont feel is ready at all. For his "Comfort" and " " he has shown, it alarmed when he threw for grabs when he was hit with a blitz!!

I cannot imagine how BP feels if he has to start Romo in a real NFL game. This year is Bledsoe year, but that doesn't mean I got any good feeling about him though.
 

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Man, those are my exact feelings about Bledsoe. I just am not feeling all that comfortable. But at the same time, I am not comfortable with Henson or Romo being ready yet. For sure, Romo, I dont feel is ready at all. For his "Comfort" and " " he has shown, it alarmed when he threw for grabs when he was hit with a blitz!!

I cannot imagine how BP feels if he has to start Romo in a real NFL game. This year is Bledsoe year, but that doesn't mean I got any good feeling about him though.

I think BP knows we only go as far as Julius and the OL will carry us. Secondly, he also knows that if Bledsoe goes down, it's over.

Heck, I'd be willing to bet that if Bledsoe retired after this year, so would BP.

He just refuses to go with youth at QB and ultimately, that is not good for this team. Long after BP is gone, we will still be searching (presumably) for our QB.

That continues to bother me.
 

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Sarge said:
...and it's amazing where you can stick, er place, :eek: a bugle these days.

:D


Yes, I've also heard about you and your ability to harmonize with yourself using two bugles. Fascinating, indeed.
 

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Juke99 said:
Yes, I've also heard about you and your ability to harmonize with yourself using two bugles. Fascinating, indeed.

You ain't right.

;)
 
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