Bob Papa: Burress Is “Deathly Afraid” Of Going To Jail

[Vtwin]

It appears Vermont does require a CCW but like a lot of other states it has a must issue law. You can only be refused if you fail either a quick test or closer inspection background test.

Vermont requires no CCW.

No CCW is required in Vermont.


I'm a life long gun owner and resident of Vermont.

There is no CCW requirement in Vermont.

 

[Vtwin]

The fact that Plax had an accident pretty much proves that these "ignorant" laws are there for a reason.

Your point is just as dumb now is it was the first time and still sounds the same

You're funny.

 

[Seven]

Vermont requires no CCW.

No CCW is required in Vermont.


I'm a life long gun owner and resident of Vermont.

There is no CCW requirement in Vermont.

You are correct. I was wrong in my posting concerning a CCW required in Vermont. Alaska is same, but has also added a "shall issue" law. Apologies for the mis-information..............on my part.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Let's see...first your rich but now live a ghetto, passing it off as if you chose to do it.

Then you were rich, but the family wasn't anymore, and that's why you live in a ghetto.

Then you're family lost a uncle and grandmother to drugs, and the uncle's drug problem cause the family to rip apart cause you couldn't afford to pay the lawyer fees, because now your family wasn't actually ever rich to begin with they simply were middle class folks who were able to send you to private schools and get by in life.

So now you're trying to pass things off as if your definition of rich was different then anyone elses and that you never intended for people to believe you were from a rich family.

Your story changes to whatever you need it to in order to attempt to fit your argument and you're terrible at keeping them tied together cause you continue to contridict yourself everytime you change it.

You're doing your point, whatever it may have been at one point, no good by continuing to try and change things about yourself, and your background, over and over to try and fit your argument. You ruined whatever credibility you would have had because it's clear you just make crap up to fit the point you're making at that moment.

*Shrugs* Either way this thread was at least entertaining and there were several people in here, a few on each side, who made excellent points for their opinion on the situation. Good job to those folks.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

You should get your facts straight before you embarras yourself.

There are many states that do not require "registering" a handgun. There are a few states that don't require a CCW.

I have a many handguns, none registered, sometimes carried, no CCW, all legal. It depends where you live.

Vermont requires no CCW.

No CCW is required in Vermont.


I'm a life long gun owner and resident of Vermont.

There is no CCW requirement in Vermont.

They actually allow people in Vermont to carry a concealed weapon into establishments where alcohol is served? You can just carry a gun into a bar, club, or liquor store and there is nothing illegal about that?

Wow. I honestly didn't know that.

 

[Audiman]

you really think burress is a threat to society or you hate him because he played for the giants?

he brought an illegal weapon into a public place, messed with it, and it went off and shot him in the leg LUCKILY. he could've accidentally shot anyone in that club. if his gun isn't a threat, his stupidity is. quit throwing the "giants card" simply because you're too ignorant to see this.

The guy screwed up, he has a bullet hole in his leg to prove it.

he sure does, and it apparently hasn't made him any smarter.

Don't send him to prison when he could do a hell of a lot more good out here.

exactly what good has Burress done for NY?

literally he is going to do more time than vick did, you really think that is justice?

Vick did not put a person's life in danger, Plaxico did...

 

[Doomsday101]

I said I was a youth, but I was in my 20s, so I was in real deal jail.

Scary folks in there.

money makes the world spin, it's just how it is. I just don't see the value in putting him away.

When I tell kids my story it makes a difference to them, I think his story can make a difference too. It's silly to not even try.

I paid my dues by doing my time I expect nothing less for Plax or any other person who breaks the law. Sorry no free rides you break the law you do your punishment. Letting him off teaches nothing to no one other than another case celebrity justice and the vast majority of kids will never be celebrities they will have to live in the real world where you screw up you pay the price. If he wants to help kids he can do it after he gets out if he does not want to help or make a difference then he is not going to do it

 

[Audiman]

hows the world look from your bubble?

apparently, a lot more logical than yours!

 

[superpunk]

Plaxico Burress is a huge threat to Plaxico Burress, and he should be kept as far away from Plaxico Burress as humanly possible.

 

[Audiman]

I'll give out this scenerio:

Plaxico and Four are in the same club and Plax brings a gun with him. While fooling with the gun, it goes off and shoots Four. here is the conversation afterwords:

Plaxico: I was scared of getting robbed. that's why I brought the gun.

Four: that's ok, you're a celebrity and can do a lot of good for the state. instead of going to jail, you should talk to kids and tell them not to bring guns to public places and play with them. I guess I really took one for the team.

Plaxico: why should I go to jail or talk to kids? I didn't do anything wrong. I was just scared.

Four: yeah, you're right. can I please swing from your testicles, Plax?

Plaxico: be gentile, I'm still scared.

 

[jackrussell]

Let's see...first your rich but now live a ghetto, passing it off as if you chose to do it.

Then you were rich, but the family wasn't anymore, and that's why you live in a ghetto.

Then you're family lost a uncle and grandmother to drugs, and the uncle's drug problem cause the family to rip apart cause you couldn't afford to pay the lawyer fees, because now your family wasn't actually ever rich to begin with they simply were middle class folks who were able to send you to private schools and get by in life.

So now you're trying to pass things off as if your definition of rich was different then anyone elses and that you never intended for people to believe you were from a rich family.

Actually I think this is the current story line on........

 

[Arch Stanton]

They actually allow people in Vermont to carry a concealed weapon into establishments where alcohol is served? You can just carry a gun into a bar, club, or liquor store and there is nothing illegal about that?

Wow. I honestly didn't know that.

Sounds more like Tombstone.

 

[Vtwin]

They actually allow people in Vermont to carry a concealed weapon into establishments where alcohol is served? You can just carry a gun into a bar, club, or liquor store and there is nothing illegal about that?

Wow. I honestly didn't know that.

Ayup,

If you can pass the background check required by the Feds for anyone anywhere to purchase a firearm then you can carry it pretty much anywhere, concealed or open.

Individual businesses can post their establishments as off limits if they chose.

Federal buildings are no guns allowed.

Turns out you're safer in bar on a Saturday night then you are in the woods during hunting season.

Go figure....

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Ayup,

If you can pass the background check required by the Feds for anyone anywhere to purchase a firearm then you can carry it pretty much anywhere, concealed or open.

Individual businesses can post their establishments as off limits if they chose.

Federal buildings are no guns allowed.

Turns out you're safer in bar on a Saturday night then you are in the woods during hunting season.

Go figure....

Good information. I honestly didn't know that was legal anywhere. I thought it was illegal to carry a firearm in a bar, club, or what have you no matter where you were at.

 

[JonJon]

I'll give out this scenerio:

Plaxico and Four are in the same club and Plax brings a gun with him. While fooling with the gun, it goes off and shoots Four. here is the conversation afterwords:

Plaxico: I was scared of getting robbed. that's why I brought the gun.

Four: that's ok, you're a celebrity and can do a lot of good for the state. instead of going to jail, you should talk to kids and tell them not to bring guns to public places and play with them. I guess I really took one for the team.

Plaxico: why should I go to jail or talk to kids? I didn't do anything wrong. I was just scared.

Four: yeah, you're right. can I please swing from your testicles, Plax?

Plaxico: be gentile, I'm still scared.

Club bouncer: holy **** dude, there's blood everywhere! Don't you need to go to the hospital or something?

Four: Nah, I 'm good. This is how it is in the ghetto. You never know when you might get shot....gotta be ready to die 'round here..

Club bouncer: but he shot you in the neck!?!?!

Four: It be like that sometime. If you can't take a bullet, then you ain't hood.

Club bouncer: Are you gonna at least file a police report? I mean, you could die any minute here.

Four: Nah. Plaxico is a celebrity role model so he won't be able to help the kids if I rat on him and goes to jail. So if I die, it will be worth it if he helps just one kid.

Plaxico (mumbles) Haha, stupid *** mother ******. I ain't helpin' no damn kids.

Club bouncer: Well, you can't sit around here bleeding on everything. You have to go.....

(bouncer procedes to throw Four through the front glass window.)

 

[Seven]

They actually allow people in Vermont to carry a concealed weapon into establishments where alcohol is served? You can just carry a gun into a bar, club, or liquor store and there is nothing illegal about that?

Wow. I honestly didn't know that.

Although they have no CCW permit requirements............do what you mentioned above and shoot somebody. Federal laws override state laws every day of the week. It's semantics at that point. Also, state laws are addendumed per county. Alaska has the same no permit required BUT, about a thouand and one by-laws written into it.

 

[Jarv]

well let's really think about it

aside from it being a player on one of our biggest rivals and a guy that torched us a few times, would you really be up in arms?

how much money is going to cost the public to keep him in prison for 3 years?

how much money would rich guy like him contribute to society for those same 3 years?


why was he carrying a gun to begin with?

was what he did smart? no it wasn't

is he a threat to society? no he isn't

send real criminals to jail and fine the crap out of *******es like burress.

He became a real criminal when he broke the law. Now its time to pay.

 

[Jarv]

Vermont requires no CCW.

No CCW is required in Vermont.


I'm a life long gun owner and resident of Vermont.

There is no CCW requirement in Vermont.

I stopped somewhere in Vermont once to buy some booze, the place was half gun store and half liquor store, pretty funny. It had 2 entrances and you couldn't go directly from the gun end to the liquor end and the merchant had a counter in the middle to provide help to both sides.

When I asked for a quart of JD and a .357 mag, he just looked at me and said something like I've heard that one a thousand times.

 

[WarC]

 

[Vtwin]

Although they have no CCW permit requirements............do what you mentioned above and shoot somebody. Federal laws override state laws every day of the week. It's semantics at that point. Also, state laws are addendumed per county. Alaska has the same no permit required BUT, about a thouand and one by-laws written into it.

I believe SCOTUS just said no to that misconception.

In your scenario you would be charged appropriately for the crime, i.e. murder/manslaughter/ assault wdw etc... You would not be charged for having the firearm. If used in self defense you would be charged with nothing.

Lost in the shuffle is that just counting Plaxico's incident there were more bar room shootings in gun unfriendly NYC last year then there were in very gun friendly Vermont.


Hmmmmmm.........