Bob Papa: Burress Is “Deathly Afraid” Of Going To Jail

[Ren]

see man, I don't insult you guys because I disagree with you.

I Don't call you stupid because I can't understand your views.

if everyone was just like you the world would be pretty boring, and likely in prison.

you are stupid and/or ignorant i'm not trying to insult you i'm only stating the obvious to anyone who reads the last 15 pages of your nonsense.

like this little gem...

All dumb laws do is make criminals out of decent folks.

The "dumb law" didn't force Plax to break it and the results of him breaking it, his little accident just proves the need to have the law in the first place.

 

[Ren]

Just for kicks let say NYC allowed everybody (instead of just the criminals) to carry. Maybe then the weapon would have been carried in an appropriate holster instead of being snuck in ghetto style.

what exactly are you trying to say here, Plax should be allowed to break the law cause criminals carry guns? :laugh2:

 

[Four]

you are stupid and/or ignorant i'm not trying to insult you i'm only stating the obvious to anyone who reads the last 15 pages of your nonsense.

like this little gem...



The "dumb law" didn't force Plax to break it and the results of him breaking it, his little accident just proves the need to have the law in the first place.

my little gem was accurate, you just used it to fuel your fervor.

again, don't sling personal attacks my way because you disagree.

Calling me stupid is a pretty easy way to insure I won't listen to your point. People with an actual point don't start calling others names.

 

[Ren]

my little gem was accurate, you just used it to fuel your fervor.

again, don't sling personal attacks my way because you disagree.

Calling me stupid is a pretty easy way to insure I won't listen to your point. People with an actual point don't start calling others names.

No it wasn't, if someone tell you if you not to break the law it will have consequences and you do it anyways you only have your self to blame, laws don't break them selves regardless of how stupid you think they are

as for you not listening i really couldn't care less.

 

[Four]

No it wasn't, if someone tell you if you not to break the law it will have consequences and you do it anyways you only have your self to blame, laws don't break them selves regardless of how stupid you think they are

as for you not listening i really couldn't care less.

okay you twisted my words to suit your argument, I said dumb laws make criminals out of decent people.

Was a larger statement than anything to do with plax, little too political and I shouldn't have said it. But not for the reason you think so.

you want to apply the law without ever deviating, it's all black and white to you, and you don't care if it would be counter productive to put him in prison.

All you see is a law and law breaker, and I just can't fathom people not having any Gray areas.

man you must be one stressed out dude.

 

[Ren]

okay you twisted my words to suit your argument, I said dumb laws make criminals out of decent people.

Was a larger statement than anything to do with plax, little too political and I shouldn't have said it. But not for the reason you think so.

you want to apply the law without ever deviating, it's all black and white to you, and you don't care if it would be counter productive to put him in prison.

All you see is a law and law breaker, and I just can't fathom people not having any Gray areas.

man you must be one stressed out dude.

Plax already declined the offer that would have given him a chance to be productive which is what this thread is all about in the first place.

What exactly is Plax going to do to be productive? we asked you this question a million times now and you've ignored it every time, come on smart guy what is plax going to teach the kids that makes holding him accountable for his crimes worth ignoring?

 

[Four]

Plax already declined the offer that would have given him a chance to be productive which is what this thread is all about in the first place.

What exactly is Plax going to do we asked you this question a million times now and you've ignored it every time, come on smart guy what is plax going to teach the kids that makes holding him acounteble for his crimes worth ignoring?

why do you think I don't want him held accountable?

getting mad a the guy for not wanting to go to prison is silly.

the state is in a position of power, a position to change lives.

I want the state to force him to be a decent person for the first time in his life.

he goes to prison he isn't going to be anything more than another pissed off ex-con.

I understand that you think I am saying he should get off, but I am not saying that at all.

he should pay, but he should pay in a way that helps.

I don't really think we are too far off in our opinions, I think I got under your skin with some words I used, and I didn't intend that. it made my point lost with you, and it likely got lost on others. My bad. I will try harder next time.

 

[adamknite]

why do you think I don't want him held accountable?

getting mad a the guy for not wanting to go to prison is silly.

the state is in a position of power, a position to change lives.

I want the state to force him to be a decent person for the first time in his life.

he goes to prison he isn't going to be anything more than another pissed off ex-con.

I understand that you think I am saying he should get off, but I am not saying that at all.

he should pay, but he should pay in a way that helps.

I don't really think we are too far off in our opinions, I think I got under your skin with some words I used, and I didn't intend that. it made my point lost with you, and it likely got lost on others. My bad. I will try harder next time.

But that won't help... not at all. You think these mysterious people that he's going to "help" wouldn't know that he's only doing this because he's forced to? It will have no effect if he isn't punished... none at all.

Why is that such a hard concept to grasp, everybody he would be "helping" would be ignoring him because he got off scott free and the only reason he was "helping" is because the "state" is forcing him to. They're not idiots.

You can't force people to be "decent" by letting them get away with breaking laws, that only teaches them that they can break any law and all they have to do is agree to speak to some kids and get away with it.

 

[Four]

But that won't help... not at all. You think these mysterious people that he's going to "help" wouldn't know that he's only doing this because he's forced to? It will have no effect if he isn't punished... none at all.

Why is that such a hard concept to grasp, everybody he would be "helping" would be ignoring him because he got off scott free and the only reason he was "helping" is because the "state" is forcing him to. They're not idiots.

You can't force people to be "decent" by letting them get away with breaking laws, that only teaches them that they can break any law and all they have to do is agree to speak to some kids and get away with it.

I don't agree with that opinion.

I think he could help some dummies be less dumb.

it wouldn't send that message, least I don't see it that way.

all the dude has to do is show them the bullet hole in his leg to show he paid a price.

kids aren't smart enough to think about the stuff you said, all they will see is an amazing athlete telling them he screwed up, and you can too.

kids don't care about the stuff we do, part of the greatness of being a child.

 

[Four]

I will say this, my nephew is a *******, I have to slap that boy in the back of the head more than I care to admit.

But he will never break the law because I made sense to him when I told him how much I screwed up.

 

[adamknite]

I don't agree with that opinion.

I think he could help some dummies be less dumb.

it wouldn't send that message, least I don't see it that way.

all the dude has to do is show them the bullet hole in his leg to show he paid a price.

kids aren't smart enough to think about the stuff you said, all they will see is an amazing athlete telling them he screwed up, and you can too.

kids don't care about the stuff we do, part of the greatest of being a child.

Dude, you're giving children too little of credit.... maybe if they were five they wouldn't think about it.... maybe.

And besides that doesn't even address the consequences put on him that I pointed out. You can't force somebody to be decent by letting them get away with breaking laws. That only shows said person that he is above the law because of his status. He won't learn anything except to do a better job of hiding his piece, and the "children" will ignore his every word.

He broke the law, he knew he was breaking the law (Be evidence of telling Pierce not to call 911 and by having him stash the gun) and all he deserves right now is punishment and him having a bullet hole in his leg doesn't justify the harm that he could of potentially caused to somebody else.

 

[Ren]

why do you think I don't want him held accountable?

getting mad a the guy for not wanting to go to prison is silly.

the state is in a position of power, a position to change lives.

I want the state to force him to be a decent person for the first time in his life.

he goes to prison he isn't going to be anything more than another pissed off ex-con.

I understand that you think I am saying he should get off, but I am not saying that at all.

he should pay, but he should pay in a way that helps.

I don't really think we are too far off in our opinions, I think I got under your skin with some words I used, and I didn't intend that. it made my point lost with you, and it likely got lost on others. My bad. I will try harder next time.

Why should we care or have any sympathy at all for this guy? he brought this upon him self. He had a chance to learn from it, he was offered a lesser charge in what is pretty much an open and shut case but Plax said no he obviously still thinks the law doesn't apply to him, throwing him in jail would clearly show he isn't.

Our views couldn't be farther apart, you think Stalworth is a scumbag but not Plax, for something that is a very similar situation to Plax's, they both made choices that put others at risk. What if Stalworths car hits a tree and he only hurts him self and Plax's gun is pointing another direction and kills someone when it goes off? both are accidents caused by their own stupidity and careless disregard for the public, the only difference is the Plax got lucky and Stalworth didn't

 

[Four]

Why should we care or have any sympathy at all for this guy? he brought this upon him self. He had a chance to learn from it, he was offered a lesser charge in what is pretty much an open and shut case but Plax said no he obviously still thinks the law doesn't apply to him, throwing him in jail would clearly show he isn't.

Our views couldn't be farther apart, you think Stalworth is a scumbag but not Plax, for something that is a very similar situation to Plax's, they both made choices that put others at risk. What if Stalworths car hits a tree and he only hurts him self and Plax's gun is pointing another direction and kills someone when it goes off? both are accidents caused by their own stupidity and careless disregard for the public, the only difference is the Plax got lucky and Stalworth didn't

it's not about him, it's not about him.

the two situations aren't related.

A drunk behind the wheel is going to kill someone, it's lucky if he doesn't.

A guy with a gun might shoot someone, might, as it turns out he shot himself.

it's just not the same, won't ever be the same, plax coulda woulda shoulda, none of it means he did.

treating him like he did isn't logical, and doesn't help anyone.

 

[Four]

Dude, you're giving children too little of credit.... maybe if they were five they wouldn't think about it.... maybe.

And besides that doesn't even address the consequences put on him that I pointed out. You can't force somebody to be decent by letting them get away with breaking laws. That only shows said person that he is above the law because of his status. He won't learn anything except to do a better job of hiding his piece, and the "children" will ignore his every word.

He broke the law, he knew he was breaking the law (Be evidence of telling Pierce not to call 911 and by having him stash the gun) and all he deserves right now is punishment and him having a bullet hole in his leg doesn't justify the harm that he could of potentially caused to somebody else.

I have two amazing kids, and I have three nephews who I had a hand in raising.

Kids are dumb, I mean not really but they don't understand politics, I am about to be 31 and I still don't understand politics.

he didn't harm anyone else, it's not about the potentials in the situation it is about what happened.

To say he is going to shoot someone now because we let him off without jail time is a really really distant stretch.

 

[Ren]

it's not about him, it's not about him.

the two situations aren't related.

A drunk behind the wheel is going to kill someone, it's lucky if he doesn't.

A guy with a gun might shoot someone, might, as it turns out he shot himself.

it's just not the same, won't ever be the same, plax coulda woulda shoulda, none of it means he did.

treating him like he did isn't logical, and doesn't help anyone.

It's not about him shooting him self it's about him putting the public at risk which he did, when are you going to get this trough your head.
The fact that it turned out "ok" doesn't change that

 

[adamknite]

I have two amazing kids, and I have three nephews who I had a hand in raising.

Kids are dumb, I mean not really but they don't understand politics, I am about to be 31 and I still don't understand politics.

he didn't harm anyone else, it's not about the potentials in the situation it is about what happened.

To say he is going to shoot someone now because we let him off without jail time is a really really distant stretch.

No they're not, maybe yours are but mine aren't and most I know definitely aren't.. I work at a school too dude.

They do understand punishment, and they understand when somebody doesn't receive punishment. Unless we're talking about primary students, then they will definitely know this guy wasn't punished for what he did. They don't have to understand politics to know when somebody got away with something.

 

[Four]

No they're not, maybe yours are but mine aren't and most I know definitely aren't.. I work at a school too dude.

They do understand punishment, and they understand when somebody doesn't receive punishment. Unless we're talking about primary students, then they will definitely know this guy wasn't punished for what he did. They don't have to understand politics to know when somebody got away with something.

we will agree to disagree.

I respect what you do, and I won't argue my point with you.

we don't see eye to eye.

I think the guy has been punished and no kid wouldn't see it the minute he shows him the scar.

the principle at school isn't the only means of punishment, sometimes a kid being made a fool of is enough.

No one won't call plax a fool.

 

[Four]

his name irritates the piss out of me, not related to the thread and people are going to use it against me.

but why isn't his name plexico, where did that A come from?

dumb name.

 

[Ren]

his name irritates the piss out of me, not related to the thread and people are going to use it against me.

but why isn't his name plexico, where did that A come from?

dumb name.

Which he's done a good job of living up to

 

[adamknite]

his name irritates the piss out of me, not related to the thread and people are going to use it against me.

but why isn't his name plexico, where did that A come from?

dumb name.

It's an African name meaning "Peaceful"