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Bob Sturm Has Been Great To Listen To About McCarthy

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Blackspider214, Jan 7, 2020.

  1. Roadtrip635

    Roadtrip635 Well-Known Member

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    PA Cowboy Fan and nightrain like this.
  2. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye.

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    The odds of any coach winning a Super Bowl are low.
  3. beware_d-ware

    beware_d-ware Well-Known Member

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  4. HotDog37

    HotDog37 Well-Known Member

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    If I'm McCarthy Zeke is on a very short leash. A bit of time to get with the program, and you better, or I'll find a way to pull a Hershel Walker deal. Jimmy all over again. No favors. Straight football. No clownage. No dogging it. U clown U out. U dog U out. U putter u out. U pout U out. U be stupid in public places U out. Be absolutely elite. He was paid to be absolutely elite. Zeke who? Show me. For the record I think Zeke is elite but it's going to take a hell of a coach to see it again. Because he is a lazy clown. Sign of the times. I give him 2 more years here at best really.
  5. JBell

    JBell That's still my Quarterback

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    Yeah because this 2019 Packers roster is EXACTLY the same as last year's.

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  6. MMObserver

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    Mac is absolutely no-nonsense. There is no fluff, no BS, and no drama with Mac. He is as authentic as they come.

    But, but, but he is nothing like Bill Parcells and is actually known as a players coach.
    I don't actually hate McCarthy. I rank him as a 6 on a scale of 1-10.

    I also do NOT believe he is principally responsible for squandering the Packers' opportunity to return to another Super Bowl after winning one in 2010 with a very young team and a QB who would go on to win two subsequent MVP awards (2011 and 2014).

    That honor belongs to GB's former GM Ted Thompson.

    As for Packers fans generally, they are very split over McCarthy's legacy (and Rodgers' legacy for that matter).

    Mac was never an arse or a phony and he definitely played up a working man persona that resonated with much of the fan base.

    However, as time wore on and he failed to make necessary adjustments (and the division got better with Zim in Minnesota and the Bears finally becoming relevant) the "we do what we do approach" lost its luster and more and more fans began coming around to the idea that perhaps he was not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    The fact that the Packers went 13-3 this season without Rodgers playing all that well (and with literally 1 worthy receiving option) opened up the eyes of a lot of Packer fans who suddenly began asking why McCarthy refused to feature RB Aaron Jones (running and passing), never committed to a running attack, and all but ignored the D and STs for so many years.

    LIS, I think Dallas can win a SB with Mac, but man it is going to be fascinating to see how he play in big D.
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  7. pancakeman

    pancakeman Well-Known Member

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    Interesting—after the hire I asked my buddy who’s a diehard Packers fan about McCarthy. His first comment was “he won’t give up on the run.”
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  8. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    The reason fans compare him to Garrett is because of perceptions about his personality (i.e. He comes across as a regular Joe...).

    Fans are not informed enough to know anything about his actual coaching history.
  9. Roadtrip635

    Roadtrip635 Well-Known Member

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  10. atlantacowboy

    atlantacowboy Zone Supporter

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    If McCarthy is as pass happy as stated, its going to be real interesting how he approaches the game with Dak who doesn't have Aaron Rodgers vision or accuracy.
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  11. dragon_mikal

    dragon_mikal Fire Garrett

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    If he’s worth anything as an offensive coach he’ll be able to figure out how to use all the weapons at his disposal and that Dak isn’t Rodgers.
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  12. Cebrin

    Cebrin Well-Known Member

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    Considering the lack of running back talent in GB during his tenure, it makes perfect sense to ignore the run some.

    I doubt things will be exactly as we've seen in GB. I suspect he will evaluate his players, and personnel (as any good coach would do), and play to the teams strengths.

    What I do expect is to see is our running backs used in more passing situations. I've heard many here complain of how we don't utilize it enough. Well, prepare to be heard.
  13. 32BellyOption

    32BellyOption Well-Known Member

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    I think we’ll get more bang for our buck now out of Zeke. McCarthy’s offense features a lot more swing passes and screens and backs running routes than did Garrett’s. Zeke will get the ball a lot more in open field now and that is a good thing.
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  14. shabazz

    shabazz Well-Known Member

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    Here's the" McCarthy Fired" thread from the Packers Forum so judge it for yourself. Interesting read


    I thought this one post summed up the average, but certainly not all, Packer fan's thoughts;

    "I wanna thank Mike McCarthy for the 13 years he gave for this team. He came in and cleaned up the mess that Mike Sherman left and brought a Title back to Green Bay but the time was up and it was time to move on."
  15. SlammedZero

    SlammedZero Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much what I was going to say.

    McCarthy actually knows what he is doing. :laugh::muttley:
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  16. Turkish-Cowboy

    Turkish-Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah he might also call designed screens with Zeke and Pollard, which are pretty hard for the defenses to defend.
  17. cml750

    cml750 Well-Known Member

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    The Packers signed some pretty good free agents prior to the season. The team was not the same team McCarthy had when he was fired.

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    ABQCOWBOY Regular Joe....

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    And what I am saying is that you payed Zeke like the leading rusher in the NFL year in and year out. I don't see that happening with McCarthy and his offense. As I said, you can hire a guy who catches balls out of the backfield and gives you 15 carries for much cheaper. Like it or don't, it's true. The contract is looking worse and worse to me.

    ABQCOWBOY Regular Joe....

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    Could be right. A lot will depend on how much authority he has with the team and how much Jerry will allow him to actually coach.

    ABQCOWBOY Regular Joe....

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    I don't think he gives up on the run but it's not the same as being a run first team. Look back on those GB teams and see what the numbers say around the Offense. Are they running a balanced Offense or is it heavily weighed towards the run?
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