Bob Sturm on Schoonmaker

[CowboyoWales]

I think he'd have been there in the 3rd round

Kraft and Strange both went before we picked in the 3rd....a distinct possibility that the Jags or GB may have preferred Schoonmaker over their picks. Picking late always sometimes you have to go early to get your favorite.

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

Thank you for your effort here, brother. You sold it! I'm a buyer now.

I watched all those videos. I know highlight reels can make a player like Taco look great, but, this is different. I see a lot of talent here. He does look like Dalton running routes, with more athleticism, but his blocking is second to none for a TE. The dude manhandled CBs and LBers, and he held his own against the bigger and stronger linemen.

Many people here hated this pick. I think he's going to prove them wrong.

 

[gtb1943]

Dallas wasted a 2nd on a soon-to-be 25-year-old blocking TE.....there is no covering that up no matter how many prop posts are created.

I think he can be a good player but he was chosen too high. Value is over rated but I really cannot see why we could not have traded down and still got him. Clearly the team wanted him and whether for good or ill that is that. But they really screwed the pooch by using such a high pick on him.

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

@Hawkeye0202

Thank you for your effort here, brother. You sold it! I'm a buyer now.

I watched all those videos. I know highlight reels can make a player like Taco look great, but, this is different. I see a lot of talent here. He does look like Dalton running routes, with more athleticism, but his blocking is second to none for a TE. The dude manhandled CBs and LBers, and he held his own against the bigger and stronger linemen.

Many people here hated this pick. I think he's going to prove them wrong.

 

[conner01]

As a Michigan fan I like Schoomaker. I think he is solid. However, I am not sure he is much better than Ferguson or Hendershot so why waste the pick. I would have picked the Oline man from Florida

It’s not a wasted pick by any stretch. McKeon has never really developed as a reciever so this kid can step right into his role with better recieving skills
Not going the direction you are I wanted doesn’t make a player a wasted pick

 

[jazzcat22]

Dallas wasted a 2nd on a soon-to-be 25-year-old blocking TE.....there is no covering that up no matter how many prop posts are created.

25 isn’t old. 8)

Roger Staubach was a 28 year old rookie, almost 29 I believe.
How did that guy work out for being too old?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

He will actually be 29 if my math is right.

He turns 25 in Sept......playing his first season.

 

[Kalyan]

if we are worried about paying him second contract at 29, that means he produced and proved himself for next 4 years, so we picked the right player

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He turns 25 in Sept......playing his first season.

Which means in 4 years he will be 29 when he gets his deal.

 

[kevm3]

So talk is they are pushing Smith inside to LG after a quality rookie season as LT....all so Tyron can play LT......until he gets hurt again of course....then who plays LG??? Oh, and what happens if Martin gets hurt?

Torrence could have been plugged in at LG and Dallas would have had the left side of their line secure for years........but hey, Dallas got a 3rd TE so no worries.

This is what's so maddening. We got Ferguson and Hendershot LAST year and we're already saying we need more from that position. How much better is this guy going to be than Dalton Schultz?

The fact that we have to completely reshuffle our O line so that we can take a tight end is a head scratcher. It's hard to really get good if you're having to constantly switch position. How can Tyler Smith really develop at LT if we're always having to bounce him around?

We said we were going to be a running team this year, but instead, we drafted in positions we already had talent at while completely ignoring RB and O line until late in the draft. Deuce is a cool player, but he's not the player you draft when you want to be dedicated to running the ball more and grinding teams down. He's a splash, change of pace back you give maybe 20% of the carries to to see if you can hit a home run every now and then. Not the guy you give the ball to when you need to constantly keep us in 2nd or 3rd and shorts.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

if we are worried about paying him second contract at 29, that means he produced and proved himself for next 4 years, so we picked the right player

Actually a very good point. If the worst thing I can do is think about a 2nd contract at 29...then hell I guess it was the right pick after all lol.

 

[reddyuta]

He cannot break a single tackle at all.the dichotomy of him being good blocker and him going down like a sack of potates on first contact is jarring.

 

[DuncanIso]

A lot has been made of his age but would he ever see a second contract in Dallas anyway? Unless he turns out to be great he will likely do his 4 years and move on via Free Agency. I think this would be true even if he was only 21. If he turns out to be a great players, or even a really good player, they can still franchise him for a year, or extend him for 3 more years. Getting 5 to 7 years out of him would not be awful if he is a really good TE.

This is likely how Jerry and Stephen view most players.

Most players never get a 2nd contract for big $$$.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is what's so maddening. We got Ferguson and Hendershot LAST year and we're already saying we need more from that position. How much better is this guy going to be than Dalton Schultz?

The fact that we have to completely reshuffle our O line so that we can take a tight end is a head scratcher. It's hard to really get good if you're having to constantly switch position. How can Tyler Smith really develop at LT if we're always having to bounce him around?

We said we were going to be a running team this year, but instead, we drafted in positions we already had talent at while completely ignoring RB and O line until late in the draft. Deuce is a cool player, but he's not the player you draft when you want to be dedicated to running the ball more and grinding teams down. He's a splash, change of pace back you give maybe 20% of the carries to to see if you can hit a home run every now and then. Not the guy you give the ball to when you need to constantly keep us in 2nd or 3rd and shorts.

Even if we got Torrence though I'd still start my 5 best linemen. This should've always been the goal. The issue is Tyron's health. That we don't know. But if he does miraculously stay healthy even with Torrence I'm going out there with Tyron, Tyler, Steele, Biadiz and Martin.

There are a few moves we as fans glossed over mistakenly thinking these are just camp bodies. And maybe they are but they may have more in plan for Ronald Jones and Chuma then we thought.

In regards to how much better he will be than Schultz...impossile to say now but Schultz couldn't block. Painfully bad at times. I've seen nothing to suggest this guys blocking is a weakness in his game.

 

[gtb1943]

Actually a very good point. If the worst thing I can do is think about a 2nd contract at 29...then hell I guess it was the right pick after all lol.

Outside of maybe RB an age like that is not really a concern; or at least SHOULD not be a real one.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is likely how Jerry and Stephen view most players.

Most players never get a 2nd contract for big $$$.

If they do it must be a bargain. Its how we kept Lewis, Anthony Brown, LVE....let Byron, Hitchens, etc. go. In order to get a second contract here its either a bargain or you must be a Pro Bowl/All Pro guy.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Kraft and Strange both went before we picked in the 3rd....a distinct possibility that the Jags or GB may have preferred Schoonmaker over their picks. Picking late always sometimes you have to go early to get your favorite.

Agreed. The likelihood is the viable "starting" TE options would've been wiped out 25+ picks before the Cowboys had another pick had they passed at 58. So I believe this pick shows us what they think about the need at TE vs. OG.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Clearly the team wanted him

It appears they were intent on using 58 for the TE position and didn't trust the quality that may have been left at 90. I wonder if Washington was the initial target until he was red-flagged.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Outside of maybe RB an age like that is not really a concern; or at least SHOULD not be a real one.

Well...yes and no. Like I said earlier, if the guy is Kittle....I don't give a damn what his age is I'm signing him.

If his ceiling is Schultz? He doesn't get a 2nd contract from me. Or a Anthony Hitchens? Thanks for the contributions on your rookie deal but I got my compensations worth. If you get 4 good years out of a guy you got your draft pick value. The 2nd contract is bonus IMO. Unless its a top 10 pick or something along those lines. You'd want those guys to be a 2nd contract guy.

 

[pitt33]

2 problems

1. We are not talking Schoon vs Schultz. We are talking Schoon vs all the other players available at 58 like Torrance

2. If the best you can say about your rd 2 pick is “ not the worst pick ever” that tells hs we made a mistake

I don’t mind the pick itself. Just not in the 2nd. Many more pressing needs for the team. Was hoping for WR or OLine at that spot.