Brad Johnson's on board, no Harrington *merged*

[TheProphet]

If we draft a QB say round 4, and Romo were to go down for that length of time I think you might see him get a lot of work. Johnson is a patch, not a repair. He's here to mentor Romo and whomever we draft.

I'm not sure I agree. Seems to me Wade would go with the veteran if we were in the hunt and Romo goes down long term. No way I see a 4th round rookie come in ahead of Johnson in this scenario. That's why this decision was such a blunder.
Another concern, what happens if Romo tanks (unlikely, but he's only got 1/2 season under his belt)? We rely on ole BJ to carry us to the promised land?? Geez.

 

[Alexander]

I think the reason he was signed is because he is a vet. QB and Romo will have another voice to listen to. That is the only reason I would see signing him. I would have perfered a younger Joey Harrington also. But you don't want Romo listening to a QB who has yet to figure it out.

Just because Harrington has spoken glowingly of Garrett doesn't mean the feeling was reciprocal.

In case nobody has noticed, Harrington has been a bizarre case from day one and has shown very very questionable leadership skills.

That's not the type of stability we desire, obviously.

The position of QB is not just about finding a strong arm and athletic ability. Otherwise, we'd still have Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson or Drew Henson here.

 

[montgod]

I also knew everyone would erupt. I for one was all for signing Ramsey as the backup, but I can understand, as others have stated, how Johnson might be a better signing at this juncture of Romo's development. You can't have too many coaches helping his development even if one of them is a teammate and this signing is what I think JJ and Wade were thinking.

Johnson maybe past his prime, but he can get the job done in a pinch and has done it in the past. Even though my choice in Ramsey is a younger player, you can't say that he has necessarily been consistent. Besides that, I think the Boys are at a point where they are going for the superbowl and not just to develop players in key areas for the future which is what the Backup QB position would have been if Ramsey or Harrington was signed vs a vet like Brad Johnson. Winning games is the goal, not looking at Ramsey or Harrington and say wow...when he gets better...he could...

 

[TheProphet]

He has done it before and done so with success. Harrington has never done jack nor has carr, they may be younger but their play has not been good

Carr and Harrington have never had the supporting cast that Johnson once had with the Vikes (his first go around with them) or the Bucs.

 

[zrinkill]

Somehow, I don't think he stays healthy, or off of social security for very long. In the meantime we've got a QB mess of our own: Romo's contract & no backup for our backup other than Matt Baker. We need to be proactive with the backup QB's backup situation. We must cover ourselves in the event that Johnson was a sixteen year wonder--that means a backup's backup who can actually play for more than a kneel-down at the end of 3 games, or luck his way into getting a headset. Also, we need to draft a QB with some major potential, we really blew it last year by not taking Charlie Whitehurst out of Clemson. How do you guys see this mess getting starightened out? Please, don't bring up the name Ricky Ray as part of any solution. Thoughts?

Great immitation of the wonder twins SP

 

[Hostile]

What about Matt Baker? I have no clue if he can play or not. Do you have any feel on what his standing is with Wade/Jerry/Garrett?

We hit on a UDFA in Romo. The odds are outrageous.

Two?

Can't see him making the team frankly.

 

[randy932]

He has done it before and done so with success. Harrington has never done jack nor has carr, they may be younger but their play has not been good

Well, I kinda agree about Harrington. After all, his QB coach from last season does not want him, apparently. But I disagree about Carr. I think Carr, away from Houston and with all that pressure off him, he could prosper very well, I think.

 

[WoodysGirl]

What about Matt Baker? I have no clue if he can play or not. Do you have any feel on what his standing is with Wade/Jerry/Garrett?

Baker's a project, IMO. Very similar to Romo's development. So maybe in a few years, I'd consider him in any QB debate, but not right now.

 

[joseephuss]

Well gents it looks as if JJ, pretending to be a GM, has done it again. On the day that Joey Harrington is released, he goes ahead and signs the ancient Brad Johnson (perhaps he threw in a cane and walker to seal the deal. LOL). This decision is a poor one. Johnson is not the QB he once was, not even close.
I read one argument from someone on this board stating all we have to do to ensure Johnson's success is to give him good blocking. Yeah, like we've done that so well over the past 5 years or so. LOL. Drew Bledsoe will look like another Michael Vick when compared to Johnson. BJ is like Vinny T "Lite".
Harrington offers youth, arm strength and mobility. He would compliment Romo well. JJ should consider null and voiding the Johnson contract this a.m. and go out and sign Harrington. Won't happen of course, but JJ blew it again with this one. The thought of Brad Johnson coming off the bench and having to play 4-5 games or more is scary. Let's hope Romo stays healthy and performs as well as he did last season. If not, we got a huge problem.

Since when does Harrington offer arm strength?

The thought of having any QB coming in and having to play 4-5 games or more is scary. That applies to most teams in the league.

Harrington has a career QB rating of 68.14, which is not very good. He supposedly looked good last season, but only managed a QB rating of 68.19 for the 2006 season. I am not impressed.

 

[dalboy]

All we can pray for is that Romo dosen't get hurt.

 

[Doomsday101]

Carr and Harrington have never had the supporting cast that Johnson once had with the Vikes (his first go around with them) or the Bucs.

Neither Carr or Harrington have ever showed themselfs as decent players and yes they have had decent talent around them. Det is loaded at WR and the Texans themself have a pro bowl WR and decent running game. As I have said I would not want Johnson playing 16 games but he has a lot more talent than Carr or Harrington and is a proven winner with vast experiance. Being a backup also requires that he is not going to see a lot of reps during the week leading up to game day and Johnson has proven he can come off the bench and lead his team.

 

[randy932]

We hit on a UDFA in Romo. The odds are outrageous.

Two?

Can't see him making the team frankly.

Like I said, I don't have a clue, but I DID read a post from someone who said they went to North Carolina, and "endured" Matt Baker. This person did not think highly of him at all.

 

[TheProphet]

Well, I kinda agree about Harrington. After all, his QB coach from last season does not want him, apparently. But I disagree about Carr. I think Carr, away from Houston and with all that pressure off him, he could prosper very well, I think.

I'm not convinced that his QB coach from last season does not want him. It is obvious that JJ is pulling the strings now that BP has rode off in his oversized saddle. What's to say that JJ didn't over rule JG and state he was signing Johnson because that is who he felt was the best fit??? Remember JJ has already told Wade who his OC was going to be.

 

[zrinkill]

Johnson has proven he can come off the bench and lead his team.

Which is all you can ask of your backup QB.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

He supposedly looked good last season, but only managed a QB rating of 68.19 for the 2006 season. I am not impressed.

he didn't look good. he regressed to the point the dolphins had no offense the last few games. he was very, very bad.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Which is all you can ask of your backup QB.

keyword being backup.

 

[joseephuss]

I'm not convinced that his QB coach from last season does not want him. It is obvious that JJ is pulling the strings now that BP has rode off in his oversized saddle. What's to say that JJ didn't over rule JG and state he was signing Johnson because that is who he felt was the best fit??? Remember JJ has already told Wade who his OC was going to be.

I trust JJ's opinion on QBs more than yours.

 

[Alexander]

Like I said, I don't have a clue, but I DID read a post from someone who said they went to North Carolina, and "endured" Matt Baker. This person did not think highly of him at all.

He was not impressive at UNC. And that's a very fair criticism. It isn't like he achieved a whole lot.

 

[Alexander]

I trust JJ's opinion on QBs more than yours.

That is a tough one since it took us nearly a dozen rejects post-Aikman to get anything close to right.

 

[TheProphet]

Neither Carr or Harrington have ever showed themselfs as decent players and yes they have had decent talent around them. Det is loaded at WR and the Texans themself have a pro bowl WR and decent running game. As I have said I would not want Johnson playing 16 games but he has a lot more talent than Carr or Harrington and is a proven winner with vast experiance. Being a backup also requires that he is not going to see a lot of reps during the week leading up to game day and Johnson has proven he can come off the bench and lead his team.

Come on brother, you can not tell us that the lowly Texans and Lions are "loaded" with talent. They may have some good recievers and a decent RB, but it takes 11 guys on each side of the ball to win ball games. Their respective OL's and defenses sucked. Kind of hard to do well at the QB position when you are running for your life and always trying to play catch up because your defense can't keep the opponent out of the end zone.