Brad Johnson's on board, no Harrington *merged*

[Alexander]

I'm not convinced that his QB coach from last season does not want him. It is obvious that JJ is pulling the strings now that BP has rode off in his oversized saddle. What's to say that JJ didn't over rule JG and state he was signing Johnson because that is who he felt was the best fit??? Remember JJ has already told Wade who his OC was going to be.

You do know Johnson has a history with Garrett also, right?

 

[montgod]

I'm not convinced that his QB coach from last season does not want him. It is obvious that JJ is pulling the strings now that BP has rode off in his oversized saddle. What's to say that JJ didn't over rule JG and state he was signing Johnson because that is who he felt was the best fit??? Remember JJ has already told Wade who his OC was going to be.

I believe that JJ inquired about Joey Harrington before Garrett came on board...look below for a reference:


Dallas Interested In Joey Harrington

The Ranch Report says that the Dallas Cowboys have inquired about a possible
trade with Detroit that would send cast-off quarterback Joey Harrington to Dallas. There
seems to be a lot of interest in Harrington from a bunch of different teams. More so than
I originally thought there would be. About a dozen teams have reportedly shown interest
in the former top 5 pick.

I wouldn't get to worked up over this news however. Jerry Jones has a tendency to
inquire about any player, especially if he thinks they may be a bargain. I wouldn't mind
seeing us make this trade if the price was a 4th round pick. He would be a great backup
for this year if Bledsoe got hurt. I also believe he can develop into a quality starting
quarterback under the right situation. He showed signs of this in 2004 when he threw
for 19 TDs and 12 INTs. His supporting cast worsened this year however, and so did his
performance.

I highly doubt we would pull the trigger on this trade. He has drawn interest from
teams that probably value him higher than we do. The Chiefs for example, were
infatuated with Harrington and prayed he would fall to them in the draft. And remember,
Henson looked strong in last week's NFL Europe game so I wouldn't think Dallas would
invest a first day pick on another quarterback. Don't forget about Tony Romo. Bill
Parcells is supposively high on him. He has everything you need to be a successful NFL
quarterback.
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So, Garrett's influence was definitely a factor in not wanting or going after Harrington...beside the fact that most average Joes can see that he just isn't a good qb.

 

[superpunk]

Consider yourselves sucked.

I wonder if prophet understands how much more valuable philo is to the forum than prophet? We could definitely do without prophet....philo, not so much. Irreplaceable.

 

[zrinkill]

keyword being backup.

Exactly ...... some of these people want our backup to be starter material .....

News Flash people ...... there are more Teams than there are starting caliber QB's in the league.

Thats why guys who come in like Garcia did last year only stay backups for one year......

 

[joseephuss]

he didn't look good. he regressed to the point the dolphins had no offense the last few games. he was very, very bad.

That is exactly how I saw it. Some people want to say he looked good based on his one game against Detroit on Thanksgiving. He did have a good game that day, but the rest of the time he looked horrible.

 

[TheProphet]

I trust JJ's opinion on QBs more than yours.

Good for you brother. JJ has done such a remarkable job signing talent over the past 10 years, has he not? LOL. :laugh2:

 

[Crown Royal]

I think the same thing I thought in all the other backup threads - there is not enough difference between the Harringtons & Ramseys & Johnsons & Rattays of this world for it to matter. The only difference between any of them is Johnson has won, but is older.

Personally, I wanted Ramsey because I've always liked his grit, but I don't really think he could come in and play for any stretch. None of them could. That is why they are backups & not starters.

You aren't going to sign a Matt Schaub or Damon Huard in free agency and expect him to stay a backup. Want a starting calibre backup - you have to draft him. Otherwise, too much focus is being given to the backup position. If any of the guys I mentioned would have to play over the course of a season, we'd be in trouble.

/thread

 

[joseephuss]

That is a tough one since it took us nearly a dozen rejects post-Aikman to get anything close to right.

I took that into consideration and still give The Jerry the nod over The Prophet.

 

[Alexander]

Honestly, using Jones' megalomanic behavior as a reason why no Harrington is idiotic.

Jones (and Lacewell) wanted to trade for him. Yet, now Jones overrules Garrett and signs Brad Johnson?

It makes no sense.

 

[montgod]

Exactly ...... some of these people want our backup to be starter material .....

News Flash people ...... there are more Teams than there are starting caliber QB's in the league.

Thats why guys who come in like Garcia did last year only stay backups for one year......

It's funny how we go through this debate EVERY offseason regarding the backup qb only for it to be a non-issue throughout the season.

This last year was the most recent time where it actually was merited and validated since Romo took over. Now that we have a true talented starting qb, lets worry about full-time positions instead of less than part-time positions (i.e. backup qb).

 

[TheProphet]

You do know Johnson has a history with Garrett also, right?

This smells of a JJ orchestrated move.

 

[Alexander]

This smells of a JJ orchestrated move.

Considering Jones has NO history with Johnson and has sniffed around Harrington for years, yes you are right.

 

[Crown Royal]

Honestly, using Jones' megalomanic behavior as a reason why no Harrington is idiotic.

Jones (and Lacewell) wanted to trade for him. Yet, now Jones overrules Garrett and signs Brad Johnson?

It makes no sense.

Jim Carrey: OBJECTION Your Honor!

Judge: On what grounds?!

Jim Carrey: Because it's DEVESTATING to my case!

 

[TheProphet]

That is a tough one since it took us nearly a dozen rejects post-Aikman to get anything close to right.

Thanks for the vote of confidence my friend. LOL.

 

[zrinkill]

Jim Carrey: OBJECTION Your Honor!

Judge: On what grounds?!

Jim Carrey: Because it's DEVESTATING to my case!

:laugh2:

 

[LatinMind]

Sorry Hostile, this was a blunder of epic proportions that deserves discussion.

a backup quarterback being a blunder of epic proportions. :jerk:

i wanted harrington too, but its a backup quarterback

 

[randy932]

I'm not convinced that his QB coach from last season does not want him. It is obvious that JJ is pulling the strings now that BP has rode off in his oversized saddle. What's to say that JJ didn't over rule JG and state he was signing Johnson because that is who he felt was the best fit??? Remember JJ has already told Wade who his OC was going to be.

I don't know any of that stuff you are speculating is true. Although it all could be true, it all could be false too. I personally don't believe that JJ is pulling all the strings like in the Campo years. I think he would listen to Garrett since Garrett coached him last year. I know JJ listened to Wade about who he wanted for DC, otherwise the DC would now be Todd Bowles. I also think that Jason Garrett's title was a decision made together with Phillips. But, I could be wrong, just as you could be.

 

[superpunk]

That is exactly how I saw it. Some people want to say he looked good based on his one game against Detroit on Thanksgiving. He did have a good game that day, but the rest of the time he looked horrible.

He was dreadful. Cleo Lemon was starting by season's end, because there was absolutely nothing to be gained by allowing Harrington to keep screwing the Dolphins over. You could almost guarantee when it came to crunch time, Joey was going to find another creative way to kill the Dolphins.

Examples?

In his first start against New England, he tossed two picks that led to TDs. One at midfield, the other deep in Miami's territory. Miami lost 20-10

In his third, Woodson gets a pick six off him, in their third straight loss. Fortunately, to this point in his season, he's only thrown 7 picks in 3 games.

Fast forward to Buffalo, where he's benched for Cleo Lemon after tossing tw picks in the first half.....

He can offer invaluable insight into how to completely screw your team over.

 

[Zaxor]

Honestly, using Jones' megalomanic behavior as a reason why no Harrington is idiotic.

Jones (and Lacewell) wanted to trade for him. Yet, now Jones overrules Garrett and signs Brad Johnson?

It makes no sense.

I'm of the same opinion as you... I wouldn't mind differing opinions as long as there is some substance behind it...but my goodness...*&()*^ zaxor walks out of thread grumbling

 

[TheProphet]

a backup quarterback being a blunder of epic proportions. :jerk:

i wanted harrington too, but its a backup quarterback

I find it astounding that so many are ready to dismiss the back up QB position. I guess you guys don't remember Garcia having to come in for McNabb, or Dilfer having to come in for the Ravens a few years ago, or Plummer being replaced last season....or gosh, how about Romo coming in for Bledsoe last season. Yeah sure, the back up QB position is not important. LOL. Get real people. :war: