Bradie James - Getting Better?

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Stautner;1587333 said:
Kind of blows your theory out of the water that the one that perfoms in preseason is the better bet then doesn't it?
Huh? I didn't say that preseason was the only factor in the evaluation. Did I?
 

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Carpenter already has a full year as a 3-4 OLB under his belt.

i think Ellis will be fine he just needs to ocnvince himself what the trainers already know.. The bottomline with Ellis is his MRIs are showing that the tendon looks not only good but great and its only a matter of time until he hits the field.
 

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Stautner;1587332 said:
Nope - that's merely the interperetation of a moron.


Let me ask you this - when Roy Williams moves up and plays close to the LOS will he be a 5th linebacker or a safety being used up closer to the line of scrimmage?

Sure, he will have duties similar to a LB, but he will also back up and play back at times ..... he will have a dual role.

Same goes for the OLB. He has a dual role. Sometimes on the line as a pass rusher, sometimes back in coverage.

The actual 3rd string DE doesn't do that - he is on the line ALL the time.

Hell, by your viewpoint Ware actually almost never plays OLB - he is just a DE and we play A 4-3 defense 80% of the time.
Wow. This is a marvelous display of ineptitude.

Carpenter didn't play OLB. Nickel DE =/= OLB.

You're really living up to your reputation this evening. Please, keep it up.
 

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theogt;1587337 said:
Wow. This is a marvelous display of ineptitude.


And this is your typical response - when you have nothing to say you claim the other guy is inept with no explanation, no logic, no discussion on why he is wrong ........ you just assume that if you say it everyone will believe it's true - you don't really need any justification for the comment do you?

Of course, I noticed how you conveniently failed to discuss your previous claim that all positions are so distinct that players cannot play more than one position, yet now you are claiming that Carpenter - who you previously said could ONLY play in James ILB spot (not Ayodele's ..... to distinct a difference) is the 3rd team DE.


But let;s try this again ..... who do you think Carpenter was playing instead of ........ was it Spears, Canty, Hatcher or Ratlif, or was it one of the OLB's.


And answer this ........ does the fact that Ware starts 85% of the snaps on the LOS mean he is really a DE, Canty is really a DT, and we really play a 4-3 defense?
 

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Stautner;1587346 said:
And this is your typical response - when you have nothing to say you claim the other guy is inept with no explanation, no logic, no discussion on why he is wrong ........ you just assume that if you say it everyone will believe it's true - you don't really need any justification for the comment do you?

Of course, I noticed how you conveniently failed to discuss your previous claim that all positions are so distinct that players cannot play more than one position, yet now you are claiming that Carpenter - who you previously said could ONLY play in James ILB spot (not Ayodele's ..... to distinct a difference) is the 3rd team DE.
Seriously? I said that Carpenter could only play ILB? Wow, I must have been drunk. Either that or you're remembering something that didn't happen.


But let;s try this again ..... who do you think Carpenter was playing instead of ........ was it Spears, Canty, Hatcher or Ratlif, or was it one of the OLB's.
I imagine Hatcher would have been playing the position had he not been hurt.


And answer this ........ does the fact that Ware starts 85% of the snaps on the LOS mean he is really a DE, Canty is really a DT, and we really play a 4-3 defense?
No, if Ware is in a 2-point stance, he's playing linebacker position. If his hand is in the ground, he's typically playing Nickel DE.
 

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Bradie is a 2-down LB, good against the run, but that's about it

can't wait till Carp replaces him
 

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Ive decided against the Donkeys i am going topay attention to our LBers and hope to get a peak at Roy as hes going to be right there as well.

On offense its going to be OL for the first team and then WR after that.
 

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I have very little hope that Bradie James will be anything other than the weakest link on the D. It appeared to me he was just as bad as the FSs last year.

I don't think it's speed, nor do I think it's his athleticism that lets him down. I think he doesn't have it between the ears; whether it's instinct or just football smarts, I don't think he has it. I hope he proves me wrong and has a great season, but I expect that if we're depending on James to be anything more than just a guy, our D is in trouble.
 

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92DoverTiger112;1587049 said:
This is ********...I can't beleive that people could think that Brady James SHOULD or COULD have gotten enough depth to prevent that Marvin Harrison play....Brady is a LOT better than you guys are claiming....

i have to agree, not sure what you guys are expecting from Brady, but i thought he did fine
 

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theogt;1586970 said:
Just got through reviewing the game (I was on vacation last week).

Dude still looks like the same ol' Bradie James to me -- slow and lost.

Sure he had the nice stop on short yardage, but he even looked bad against the run on a few plays other plays to me.

I didn't see much talk on this recently. Thoughts?

he was lookin kinda good
 

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James did to his credit look much better in S.A. training camp. I sure hope he performs this year or we have a good place for Carp
 

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theogt;1586970 said:
Just got through reviewing the game (I was on vacation last week).

Dude still looks like the same ol' Bradie James to me -- slow and lost.

Sure he had the nice stop on short yardage, but he even looked bad against the run on a few plays other plays to me.

I didn't see much talk on this recently. Thoughts?

he played a couple of series in a preseason game, hardly see what you could have seen to come to such a conclusion

considering they didnt run the ball on us a lick, I dont see your concern here

David
 

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dbair1967;1587515 said:
he played a couple of series in a preseason game, hardly see what you could have seen to come to such a conclusion

considering they didnt run the ball on us a lick, I dont see your concern here

David
How many plays does it take to see that he still looks sluggish? How many? 10? 100?
 

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theogt;1587554 said:
How many plays does it take to see that he still looks sluggish? How many? 10? 100?

I dont know, zero maybe? Because thats how many plays he looked sluggish to me the other night

I thought he looked fine and by all accounts he has had a fine TC and displayed alot mroe range than last yr, when he had to play at a ridiculous weight

David
 

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dbair1967;1587561 said:
I dont know, zero maybe? Because thats how many plays he looked sluggish to me the other night

I thought he looked fine and by all accounts he has had a fine TC and displayed alot mroe range than last yr, when he had to play at a ridiculous weight

David
Wait a second. So it was sufficient time for you to think that he wasn't sluggish, but it wasn't sufficient time for me to think he was sluggish?

If you don't think he looked sluggish, fine. But don't say something silly like it wasn't enough time to form an opinion one way or the other.
 

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theogt;1587562 said:
Wait a second. So it was sufficient time for you to think that he wasn't sluggish, but it wasn't sufficient time for me to think he was sluggish?

If you don't think he looked sluggish, fine. But don't say something silly like it wasn't enough time to form an opinion one way or the other.

ok, fine Theo

David
 

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InmanRoshi;1587274 said:
Hell, if you listen to half the board here, Bradie James and Bill Parcells singlehandedly brought down the entire defense, while the rest of our silver and blue defensive "heroes" just merely victims.

Forgive me if I'm not drinking that Kool Aid.

Question ... if Bradie James is so inexplicably bad and only out there because he was a Parcells favorite, why is he still starting under Wade?

Do you want to use this same logic with Julius Jones?
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1587257 said:
Here is to hoping to see Spencer Carpenter Ayodele Ware starting for us sometime soon.

James seems like a great guy to rotate in on goalline, short yardage and first downs but Carpenter is the more rounded player.

Bulk of the snaps go to Carp and Ayodele. James rotates in on running situations and Burnett on the passing. Sounds like a great ILB platoon.
That's the linebacker corps I'm hoping for as well.
 

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theogt;1587350 said:
No, if Ware is in a 2-point stance, he's playing linebacker position. If his hand is in the ground, he's typically playing Nickel DE.

so you are saying that Ware is actually 70% DE and 30% OLB ......... wonder why they list him at LB?

The fact is that moving up and playing like a 4-3 DE in some situations is what an OLB does in a 3-4. Ware has done it A LOT for 2 years now, and will probably do more of it this year in our new, more agressive scheme.

You apparently have never realized that Ware (or Carpenter the other night) don't come in to replace Spears or Canty, they merely move closer to the line to rush the passer.

You also apparently never realized that Hatcher does not come in to play the role Carpenter played the other night (as a fourth pass rusher), he comes in to replace one of the original 3 down linemen - the ones that are always there on the line, regardless of whether the OLB rushes from a 2 point stance, a thre point stance or falls back in coverage.

Yes, what Carp was doing is a DE like role. but, again, that's just part of the role of an OLB in a 3-4 defense. It's what Ware has been doing for 2 years.

Your apparent antiquated notion of LB's playing 3 yards back, plugging holes and going back in coverage does not apply - the 3-4 OLB is a hybrid player.
 
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