Bradlee Anae needs to play more

stilltheguru

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Because Armstrong hasn't shown anything.
Heath doesn't even start in Oakland. Great, he had a couple of interceptions............ he's not a starter. Geezus you people are insane.
What does him starting have to do with anything? Hes making plays. I didnt say he was great. Dude tried to say Heath and Wilcox were the same level. One dude hasn't made a relevant play since 2017. Its pretty simple
 

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I mean the simplest answer is probably the right one............... he's not good enough at this point to play. What he did in college and at the Senior Bowl doesn't matter now that we have three months of him working with a NFL team.

Again that sounds like coaching issues than it does Anaes. … what he did in college and Senior bowl is a reason why he is on your draft board.
and there's all over, up and down that these current coaches have been misplacing and mis coaching players all over the place since they arrived here.
 

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Players get three practices a week to show the coaches they can contribute. Anae was inactive last week so that tells me he's not making the best of his opportunities, when he does I'll be right here ready to cheer him on, but until then have got to cheer for the guys that actually make it to the field.
Well said!
 

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Because Armstrong hasn't shown anything.

What does him starting have to do with anything? Hes making plays. I didnt say he was great. Dude tried to say Heath and Wilcox were the same level. One dude hasn't made a relevant play since 2017. Its pretty simple

It was you who tried to introduce Heath versus Wilcox as some example of the Cowboys keeping a better player on the bench. That was a weak example because in all reality, they both were not very good safeties.
 

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He really wasn't.

They both were not starting caliber NFL safeties. This is like arguing over which tastes better - cat poop or dog poop.
again! One guy hasn't made a play since 2017 the other is making plays in 2020. Agree to disagree.
 

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Again that sounds like coaching issues than it does Anaes. … what he did in college and Senior bowl is a reason why he is on your draft board.
and there's all over, up and down that these current coaches have been misplacing and mis coaching players all over the place since they arrived here.

How is it a coaching issue? Anae was a 5th round pick for a reason. The hit rate on 5th rounds isn't all that high. I know this is apparently hard for you to stomach but there's a decent chance Anae simply isn't a NFL caliber player. It would not be unusual for a 5th round player to never amount to much.

Now is it too soon to write him off? Sure. But I also think it's pretty insane at this point to blame coaching and think that they are holding back a kid that's ready to just start producing.
 

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again! One guy hasn't made a play since 2017 the other is making plays in 2020. Agree to disagree.

Heath is barely making plays. He only plays because Oakland has injuries in the secondary.

But whatever. If you want to think Jeff Heath not playing over Wilcox is some sort of coaching travesty, have at it. You Heath guys are an interesting bunch, that's for certain.
 

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Heath is barely making plays. He only plays because Oakland has injuries in the secondary.

But whatever. If you want to think Jeff Heath not playing over Wilcox is some sort of coaching travesty, have at it. You Heath guys are an interesting bunch, that's for certain.
Barely making plays? Theres no safety in the nfl with more interceptions than him lol. Internets dudes will argue anything. Facts be damned
 

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I mean the simplest answer is probably the right one............... he's not good enough at this point to play. What he did in college and at the Senior Bowl doesn't matter now that we have three months of him working with a NFL team.
True, but on this site the most dramatic answer is the promoted one.
 

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Barely making plays? Theres no safety in the nfl with more interceptions than him lol. Internets dudes will argue anything. Facts be damned

The folly of looking at interceptions as the value of a player.

Heath has more interceptions than Minkah Fitzpatrick this year. Guess he's better than Fitzpatrick, huh?
 

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Heat was/is much better than Wilcox.
He was, and after the team gave Wilcox an opportunity they ended up seeing that. But that doesn't mean he needed to be the starter, it just means he was better than another guy that didn't need to be the starter either.
 

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Fans love to be extremists. Players are either great or they suck.

Why do fans hate rotational players like Dorance Armstrong?

Armstrong and Anae have many similarities.
- Both played hand-down and standing up in college.
- Both were better players than their measurables.
- Almost identical height/weight.

Best College Season by each player:
  • Bradlee Anae
    • Tackles for Loss 14
    • Solo Tackles 30
    • Total Tackles 41
    • Forced Fumbles 1
    • Sacks 13
  • Dorance Armstrong
    • Tackles for Loss 20
    • Solo Tackles 40
    • Total Tackles 56
    • Forced Fumbles 3
    • Sacks 10
Measurables:
  • Bradlee Anae
    • Utah
    • Draft: 2020 5th round, Cowboys
    • Height: 6033
    • Weight: 257
    • Hand: 10 1/8
    • Arm: 32 1/8
    • Wingspan: 78 1/8
    • 40 Yard Dash (ET): 4.91
    • 10 Yard (ET): 1.69
    • 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 25
    • Vertical Jump: 31
    • Broad Jump: 09'07"
    • 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.43
    • 3-Cone Drill: 7.44
  • Dorance Armstrong
    • Kansas
    • Draft: 2018 4th round, Cowboys
    • Height: 6035
    • Weight: 257
    • Hand: 10 Arm: 34 3/4
    • Wingspan: 83
    • 40 Yard Dash (ET): 4.87
    • 10 Yard (ET): 1.69
    • 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 25
    • Vertical Jump: 33
    • Broad Jump: 09'10"
    • 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.23
    • 3-Cone Drill: 7.12

this has nuthin' to do with "hating ' rotational guys, but more so about been-there/done that, ..now let's give others opportunity.

I already know about both players poor pre-draft workout numbers, but this isn't about track & field, but about a knack for sacking the QB.
It's been proven many times over that there are guys in NFL that just outperform what they tested at the NFL combine, pre draft workouts.
They play faster, stronger, flat make plays than what's measured in work outs.

and this is a losing team, with a porous pass rush, and we're still hanging onto guys like Armstrong who team was expecting to be an impact
pass rusher - such that at draft time reports had team considering moving up to select him a round earlier than what he eventually was picked
they had hoped he'd be a player, but he's materialized into nuthin' more than JAG.

You'd think he'd be right in the mix with the names ala Aldon, DLaw and Bradlee in picking the scrub blockers apart in training camp per camp reports, but
yet there's no mention of Dorace doing the same vs vast inferior blockers.

Bradlee Anae
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/bradlee-anae-1.html

Dorace Armstrong
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/dorance-armstrong-jr-1.html
 

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The folly of looking at interceptions as the value of a player.

Heath has more interceptions than Minkah Fitzpatrick this year. Guess he's better than Fitzpatrick, huh?
Yup hes better than minkah and barely made plays this year. You're a football savant :bow:
 

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Yup hes better than minkah and barely made plays this year. You're a football savant :bow:

The football savant is the guy arguing that the coaches made a tragic error in playing Wilcox over the studly Jeff Heath, the guy just making plays in Oakland despite the fact he only plays because of injuries to the safeties ahead of him. But yeah, he had two interceptions in one game! PLAYA!
 

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The team needs to be creative to give him some snaps at least as a pass rusher. We have seen Aldon and even Gregory play some DT in the nickel, perhaps he will be given some reps when the team is officially out of the postseason.
I’d get all the young players or anyone in last year of contract reps
See if you want to keep those up for deals and see if the young guys can get some valuable reps
 

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Anae is a JAG. This love affair you guys have with him......I get it if he's done something but he hasn't. Who are you taking off the field to put him on it?

you don't hear about "JAGs " dominated Senior Bowl practices and games going against various other heralded draft prospects at the senior level.

and the issues with these defensive coaches has already been observed and documented.
the only thing i'm grateful from this coaching staff .. is Not forcing Crawford into the starting lineup based off his 9 million and locker room popularity.

and what's with asking this same 'whose taken off field " question over and over again
when replies and answers already been given repeatedly ?
:huh:
 

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you don't hear about "JAGs " dominated Senior Bowl practices and games going against various other heralded draft prospects at the senior level.

and the issues with these defensive coaches has already been observed and documented.
the only thing i'm grateful from this coaching staff .. is Not forcing Crawford into the starting lineup based off his 9 million and locker room popularity.

and what's with asking this same 'whose taken off field " question over and over again
when replies and answers already been given repeatedly ?
:huh:

You are putting WAY too much stock in what happened in the senior bowl. That's one data point amongst hundreds that goes into whether a kid is going to be a NFL player or not.

You know who looked awesome in Senior Bowl workouts a couple of years ago? Davis Webb, the QB out of Cal. He was nothing in the NFL. Isaiah Peed was another steller Senior Bowl performer, he never amounted to much as a NFL TB. The point being just doing well Senior Bowl week doesn't mean you can actually play in the NFL.
 

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i don't understand why coaching staff Jim Tomsula is red shirting Bradlee Anae almost the same way
Reggie Robinson is being sat out this year .

Anae has been in on a few special team snaps but nuhtin major role there.

- Anae collected 30 sacks at Utah St. - so he was a sack machine there


- Anae put on impressive at Senior Bowl weekend proving unblockable in both practices and game itself

- Anae from all reports that put on another display in Cowboys training camp when he was unblockable

- Bradlee fell in draft to the 5th rd because typical scouts were wary of his poor workout numbers

i don't think its just Anae not being ready to show, because if not for the injuries of McCoy, Hill and the disappointments of Poe and Crawford, Nevillie Gallimore wouldve still been sitting the bench, instead of displaying
some ability ala Steelers .

There are times like this where these coaches that are holding back these players ......:banghead:
This season is the perfect time to let these young players get some experience. It would be different if this team had any chance of being decent. Playing these guys would hopefully let the team know if some of these players can fill some of the holes on this team .
 
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