Breakdown of Garrett's record

[Stash]

Yep.......The coordinators have been turned over twice, all the assistants, and the virtually the entire roster. Even the QB. And the results and coaching blunders remain the same.

One place left to point the finger:

 

[Stash]

Do either of you honestly believe that we possessed a championship level roster- one that should have made it to the superbowl, but didn't because it was held back by coaching?

My belief is that we did not.

Multiple times.

Take a look at your personnel excuses and then look at the personnel losses for the team that went on to win it all this year.

And then reconsider.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Multiple times.

Take a look at your personnel excuses and then look at the personnel losses for the team that went on to win it all this year.

And then reconsider.

The Eagles had quality depth, that allowed them to overcome critical injuries. Credit their front office for good personnel decisions. It actually supports my contention, rather than disprove it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Do either of you honestly believe that we possessed a championship level roster- one that should have made it to the superbowl, but didn't because it was held back by coaching?

My belief is that we did not.

I think that the 2016 team underachieved in the playoffs. I think last years team underachieved. But no, we havent had a championship roster since the 90s

 

[Sydla]

Do either of you honestly believe that we possessed a championship level roster- one that should have made it to the superbowl, but didn't because it was held back by coaching?

My belief is that we did not.

My belief is the fact we missed making runs in 2014 and 2016 was due to some roster flaws AND coaching.

 

[Stash]

The Eagles had quality depth, that allowed them to overcome critical injuries. Credit their front office for good personnel decisions. It actually supports my contention, rather than disprove it.

Sure it does.

And I guess the front office stocks teams totally independent of anything the coaching staff tells them, right?

I mean how could Jason Garrett possibly be responsible for the fact that Chaz Green was a disaster? How could he possibly know that, right? How could the coach possibly know anything about his team, right?

The lengths some people will go to to try (and fail) to defens this proven failure knows no bounds.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The Eagles had quality depth, that allowed them to overcome critical injuries. Credit their front office for good personnel decisions. It actually supports my contention, rather than disprove it.

But if we did, Garrett would blow it with his coaching. Although Jones seems to take more and more responsibility away from Garrett with every year. He appears to now even want Garrett messing with the offense at all moving forward.

 

[Sydla]

The Eagles had quality depth, that allowed them to overcome critical injuries. Credit their front office for good personnel decisions. It actually supports my contention, rather than disprove it.

No one knew they had great depth. They plugged in a 5th round pick at LT and was able to coach around some of his shortcomings, for example. In fact, they had a plan in place to move Lane Johnson to LT if the kid imploded.

It's ******* hilarious at this point that people try to mitigate the fact that the Eagles coaching staff did an unbelievable job last year. That, instead, their success was all due to the front office giving them a flawless roster.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Sure it does.

And I guess the front office stocks teams totally independent of anything the coaching staff tells them, right?

I mean how could Jason Garrett possibly be responsible for the fact that Chaz Green was a disaster? How could he possibly know that, right? How could the coach possibly know anything about his team, right?

The lengths some people will go to to try (and fail) to defens this proven failure knows no bounds.

3 complete blunders on the case of Garrett when it comes to Chaz Green:

1. He should have seen how bad the guy was and never should have relied on him
2. When Smith went down he should made sure help was schemed into the game plan prior to the game
3. Once Green was getting destroyed on the field he should have reacted much faster to getting him help.

Numbers 2 and 3 are completely unacceptable for a head coach. THAT is YOUR job.

 

[Sydla]

There are many legitimate criticisms of Garrett. He's made a few bone-headed moves too. Tony Romo (and many others) made some mistakes too. It happens in football. I still firmly believe that the lack of success in recent history is all about front office mistakes. Bad personnel decisions (drafting, roster, contract) have doomed the Cowboys. The good news is I think we are improving in this area, but is Dak a championship level QB, capable of spreading out a defense? If Dak is not, are we going to blame Garrett for that too?

If this team had a true championship roster and failed, then we could blame the coaching. That was not the case.

Yeah, we should blame Garrett. He's one of the ones that decided to make a move to Prescott full time even when Romo got healthy. He's had opportunities for input into the QB position and he's chosen to ride with Prescott. If you recall, a big reason why we took Elliott was because Garrett blessed the move. Maybe Garrett should have spoken up and said we should trade up for Wentz or Goff? Maybe along the way here, Garrett should have pressed for another QB in the draft?

Prescott is as much on Garrett as it is the front office. The excuse making is just too much now. You are now setting up excuses that haven't even happened yet. LOL.

 

[Stash]

3 complete blunders on the case of Garrett when it comes to Chaz Green:

1. He should have seen how bad the guy was and never should have relied on him
2. When Smith went down he should made sure help was schemed into the game plan prior to the game
3. Once Green was getting destroyed on the field he should have reacted much faster to getting him help.

Numbers 2 and 3 are completely unacceptable for a head coach. THAT is YOUR job.

And yet SuperFan #99 here wants to absolve Garrett of any and all responsibility.

Like I said, the lengths and excuses some people will stoop to is incredible.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And yet SuperFan #99 here wants to absolve Garrett of any and all responsibility.

Like I said, the lengths and excuses some people will stoop to is incredible.

Some people have lower standards I am convinced of it. Why would ANYONE want Garrett or Wade or any other sub standard level guy leading this proud franchise? Look no further then teams like the Eagles and Celtics as proof that coaching matters at the highest levels.

 

[Stash]

Some people have lower standards I am convinced of it. Why would ANYONE want Garrett or Wade or any other sub standard level guy leading this proud franchise? Look no further then teams like the Eagles and Celtics as proof that coaching matters at the highest levels.

Because they want the fairy tale.

That storybook ending where the former player comes back and returns the team to the top of the mountain. All evidence to the contrary.

The same reason that Jerry Jones himself hired him and why he keeps him around. He and many fans thought that they had their next Tom Landry.

8-years plus says that Jones, and those fans, are wrong.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

It's difficult to evaluate a running back that has zero blocking. Get an O-line, and you'll see what you have at RB.

Remember the years of salary cap hell. Being stuck with aging overpriced vets. Not only bad draft decisions, but bad resource allocation decisions. Remember all the bad free agency decisions, and roster decisions. Contract decisions. Bill Belichick wouldn't have won the superbowl with this roster either.

Edit to add- I'm not saying Garrett is a great coach, I'm just saying that you don't know.

 

[HungryLion]

1-5 against GB and 0-2 in the playoffs....not good....

Aaron Rodgers doesn’t even ask our defense if they want lube or not.

 

[Sydla]

It's difficult to evaluate a running back that has zero blocking. Get an O-line, and you'll see what you have at RB.

Remember the years of salary cap hell. Being stuck with aging overpriced vets. Not only bad draft decisions, but bad resource allocation decisions. Remember all the bad free agency decisions, and roster decisions. Contract decisions. Bill Belichick wouldn't have won the superbowl with this roster either.

I'll bet Bill Belichick would have gotten a lot further in the playoffs than Garrett did in 2014 and 2016 with this roster.

And Garrett wouldn't be a 5 time SB champion with NE's roster.

 

[Diehardblues]

True enough. If you recall that year, the team had big time Oline problems to start the season. Just sayin. And you cant really count that last game where Romo went down in the first half.

And Didnt Garett have a 1-4 stretch last year?

In my opinion, both Wade and Garrett are beneath this franchise as head coaching candidates. At least in Wades defense we can say he is an excellent coordinator.

Garrett never had a losing season or record with his starting QB.

I would agree both HC are not as good as we should have. But then we’re not taking into considerations the constraints Jerry placec on us.

In all fairness at least Wade was a proven Coord and had some HC experience coming in.

 

[Stash]

It's difficult to evaluate a running back that has zero blocking. Get an O-line, and you'll see what you have at RB.

Remember the years of salary cap hell. Being stuck with aging overpriced vets. Not only bad draft decisions, but bad resource allocation decisions. Remember all the bad free agency decisions, and roster decisions. Contract decisions. Bill Belichick wouldn't have won the superbowl with this roster either.

Edit to add- I'm not saying Garrett is a great coach, I'm just saying that you don't know.

It's called "making excuses". That's what you're doing.

And there's 8 years of evidence telling us we do know.

Now stooping so far as to grasp at unproveable hypotheticals about what an actually accomplished coach could or couldn't do with this roster.

Desperate.

 

[Stash]

Garrett never had a losing season or record with his starting QB.

I would agree both HC are not as good as we should have. But then we’re not taking into considerations the constraints Jerry placec on us.

In all fairness at least Wade was a proven Coord and had some HC experience coming in.

Whereas Garrett has been handed every job he's received rather than having earned them.

 

[jazzcat22]

Garrett never had a losing season or record with his starting QB.

I would agree both HC are not as good as we should have. But then we’re not taking into considerations the constraints Jerry placec on us.

In all fairness at least Wade was a proven Coord and had some HC experience coming in.

It is not Jerry’s fault for the lack of Garrett’s success. It is Jerry’s fault for the lack of the teams succes. Mostly by keeping Garrett and this staff.
At he made some staff changes, but not the guy at top.