News: BTB: Cowboys pet peeve: People who want to move on from Dak Prescott

[Typhus]

That's a stretch! But the truth of the matter is the league has turned into a passing league and done everything to protect WRs and QBs. Defenses are not allowed intimidating hits on WRs going over the middle or allowing DEs to slam QBs to the ground. The teams that are winning SBs all have top QBs because even though it's a team game the QB is the most important position on the field. If you don't have a QB that can make plays under pressure your offense will struggle and that's exactly what is happening in Dallas.

100 percent, and this should be a better offense surrounding Dak after draft and TC, when the dust settles this offense is getting better and will improve.
Dak will have an improved running backfield and OL protection once the draft is completed, I'm willing to hang my hat on that, so bookmark me.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

well if dak is not the solution to getting to a SB (8 years and counting with Dak), then he is a big part of the problem. His continous meltdowns in crucial games are now a documented syndrome. he is regressing already , just look at his interceptoins to TD ratio.
To answer your question of how do you find the next elite QB , well you have to draft one and then pick one. Cincinnati did , and KC did , and if you say these are first round QBs, , well the eagles found QBs to take them to the SB from second round and lower round and got to the SB twice in the last 7 years , winning one and counting.
The dak is the best option argument is getting weaker and disproven year over year. Me and you have been discussing this for 4 years by now.

Yes, you need to draft one. Two great examples. But AZ failed twice, Cleveland, NY jets and giants, Chicago seemingly twice, panthers, Denver, Philly once, Rams so they traded, Tennessee, raiders, Detroit, Tampa all failed. So yes you have to take a chance. No doubt. But 95% most probably fail. And you gave example of two elite QBs one of them drafted as the top pick.

So the lower in the round you are, the lesser the chance of success. And to get a potentially good one , you need top 10 pick, which means you have to suck really bad.

So who is the can't miss prospect this year?

In the meantime teams have gone to and won superbowls with less than perfect QBs.

Dak is not elite. He is not as bad as the Dak haters claim nor as good as some of his ardent fans claim

The biggest biggest biggest challenge is Jerry Jones. He of the mindset that wanted to pick Manziel and trade up to get lynch. Do you trust him finding an elite QB?

 

[conner01]

I do agree! But the Rams were the last NFC team left that could take out one of the top 3 AFC teams. I feel the NFC is falling behind because the QBs.

The AFC certainly does have the young guns
Most of them will never get a SB though
But they do have the talent

 

[Diehardblues]

well if dak is not the solution to getting to a SB (8 years and counting with Dak), then he is a big part of the problem. His continous meltdowns in crucial games are now a documented syndrome. he is regressing already , just look at his interceptoins to TD ratio.
To answer your question of how do you find the next elite QB , well you have to draft one and then pick one. Cincinnati did , and KC did , and if you say these are first round QBs, , well the eagles found QBs to take them to the SB from second round and lower round and got to the SB twice in the last 7 years , winning one and counting.
The dak is the best option argument is getting weaker and disproven year over year. Me and you have been discussing this for 4 years by now.

Since when has winning the SB been a top priority of this dysfunctional ownership?

 

[stuckindc]

I think Dallas has some doubt about Dak.

Dak was the reason we lost both playoff games vs the Niners.

He was terrible in both games.

Diggs whiffing on Kittle as well as dropping the pic, did not help. He could have changed the game on either of those missed opportunities

 

[Diehardblues]

The AFC certainly does have the young guns
Most of them will never get a SB though
But they do have the talent

Yea, we’d all love to have one of those Elite QB’s. But the reality of the NFL is about 25 of the 32 teams have to build around less than an Elite QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes, you need to draft one. Two great examples. But AZ failed twice, Cleveland, NY jets and giants, Chicago seemingly twice, panthers, Denver, Philly once, Rams so they traded, Tennessee, raiders, Detroit, Tampa all failed. So yes you have to take a chance. No doubt. But 95% most probably fail. And you gave example of two elite QBs one of them drafted as the top pick.

So the lower in the round you are, the lesser the chance of success. And to get a potentially good one , you need top 10 pick, which means you have to suck really bad.

So who is the can't miss prospect this year?

In the meantime teams have gone to and won superbowls with less than perfect QBs.

Dak is not elite. He is not as bad as the Dak haters claim nor as good as some of his ardent fans claim

The biggest biggest biggest challenge is Jerry Jones. He of the mindset that wanted to pick Manziel and trade up to get lynch. Do you trust him finding an elite QB?

Right, unfortunately we have had two QB’s this era in Romo and Prescott fall in our laps or this era would have likely looked more like the Cowboys with Quincy Carter, Johnny Manziel and Paxton Lynch being a bottom feeder.

Yes, this has been a disappointing frustrating era. But with this dysfunctional ownership it would have been worse without these less talented over achieving QB’s.

 

[kumizi]

I’m not a Dak guy and even I know it would be insane to move on from him. You are a perennial playoff contender making major $$$ selling tickets, merchandise, etc.

You move on from him for what a 5% chance at finding the next elite NFL QB? And that’s if you’re willing to endure losing seasons to try and get a top 5-10 pick.

 

[TWOK11]

I generally assume that those who wish to simply move on from Dak without any actual plan for what to do after are simply too young to remember the QB wilderness the rest of us experienced from 2001-2006.

 

[Diehardblues]

I’m not a Dak guy and even I know it would be insane to move on from him. You are a perennial playoff contender making major $$$ selling tickets, merchandise, etc.

You move on from him for what a 5% chance at finding the next elite NFL QB? And that’s if you’re willing to endure losing seasons to try and get a top 5-10 pick.

Unfortunately this is the reality. You don’t disrupt a consistent playoff contender just because you’re frustrated you haven’t won a championship.

But you can draft and begin developing another QB in the event of injury or a sudden downturn.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

And the fact this has been happening for a long time, even before Dak, is the crux of the problem. Aside from a few outlier seasons, the Cowboys have been a competitive team since they last won a Super Bowl. And since 2006 they have made the playoffs eight times, fell one game short of making it five times, and were really only bad three times (2010, 2015, and 2020 when either Romo or Dak were out for extended time).

It seems like the Jones boys are content with just having a good, competitive team that has "a chance". Success in Dallas used to be measured in championships. Dak bashing is a tidy way to lump a much bigger problem onto one convenient scapegoat.

They did and DO the same thing to Romo...you are right.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Unfortunately this is the reality. You don’t disrupt a consistent playoff contender just because you’re frustrated you haven’t won a championship.

But you can draft and begin developing another QB in the event of injury or a sudden downturn.

A ONE GAME playoff contender (as long as the other team sssssSUCKS)...whoopie.

 

[Typhus]

Unfortunately this is the reality. You don’t disrupt a consistent playoff contender just because you’re frustrated you haven’t won a championship.

But you can draft and begin developing another QB in the event of injury or a sudden downturn.

While true, your plan is about 2 years too late.
Never too late to start I guess.

 

[Diehardblues]

While true, your plan is about 2 years too late.
Never too late to start I guess.

This has been my plan all along. And it’s never too late to do the right thing.

 

[Typhus]

This has been my plan all along. And it’s never too late to do the right thing.

Agree and hindsight is always 20/20, so I agree it's never too late, but it is apparent if we leave this draft without a dart being thrown.
At least dig one out of the UDFA pile for a look.

 

[Diehardblues]

A ONE GAME playoff contender (as long as the other team sssssSUCKS)...whoopie.

I’m not advocating it’s an ideal situation but one most franchises are going to stay the course with a consistent playoff contender even if it fizzles out early .

What’s unique to the Cowboys situation is a GM which isn’t held accountable for less success in the playoffs which ultimately could bring about change.

The fact the Cowboys haven’t been to a championship game in 12 playoff appearances is the longest drought in NFL history. One most GM’s wouldn't have survived.

 

[Diehardblues]

Agree and hindsight is always 20/20, so I agree it's never too late, but it is apparent if we leave this draft without a dart being thrown.
At least dig one out of the UDFA pile for a look.

I think most fans would agree. We’ll see if our GM does.

I think there will be some good selections in middle rounds.

 

[Bullflop]

Those who want to move on from Dak aren't taking into consideration the real probabilities that exist at present. He'll be around for some time yet to come, if this FO has anything to say about the future. Too many here like to vent their frustrations without considering the real truth of the matter. Jerry and Son have committed themselves to a contract that they're determined to see throughout its entirety. Like it or not, that's a fact. Accept it.

 

[kskboys]

Unfortunately this is the reality. You don’t disrupt a consistent playoff contender just because you’re frustrated you haven’t won a championship.

But you can draft and begin developing another QB in the event of injury or a sudden downturn.

They did. Then released Mike White. bi All comes back to their terrible evaluation of players. This Org can only see what is, they are completely incapable of watching a player and determining what will be. We simply do a very poor job of developing players. Not sure just why, prolly a combination of non-football people up a the top and the constant urgency to WIN NOW.

 

[kskboys]

Yea, we’d all love to have one of those Elite QB’s. But the reality of the NFL is about 25 of the 32 teams have to build around less than an Elite QB.

More like 28 of 32. There are not 7 elite QBs in the NFL. Right now, I see 4, w/ Mahomes, Burrows, Allen, and Rodgers.