News: BTB: Cowboys pet peeve: People who want to move on from Dak Prescott

[Flamma]

Nope. All I can tell you is that you have a poor understanding of how QB contracts work in the NFL. For a year Dak has been the 7th or 8th paid QB which is right where he should be. When QB's sign new contracts they are typically either breaking the old record or close to it. If you dont understand that, then thats your own issue.

And FYI...........Dak is a top QB in the NFL. Top 10. Which means he is top 10 in the world. Only 5-7 QB's better than Dak. Now whether you get that or understand that is in consequential.

Now paying Dak 50 million? Thats another conversation. I personally wouldnt pay him 50 million. So the question becomes what do you do? This team is currently in a window with Dak. Again, whether you understand that or not is inconsequential.

Its up to Jerry to make the few necessary moves to get the team to true contender level. But even then it guarantees nothing.

Problem is some other idiot owners have paid guys like Wilson and Watson 50 million. So its tough to make a case that Dak shouldnt get that.

So "letting Dak walk" is never an option. THAT is complete stupidity. Either you sign him or trade him. Those are the ONLY two options. And since it would be stupid to trade him with only Rush as your QB, its important to start developing a young QB. Problem is Jerry doesnt like to do that. So again, JERRY is the big problem. Not Dak.

After this upcoming season they will either extend or trade Dak. If they extend it will be 50M at minimum. He simply isn't worth it.

 

[rambo2]

Agree. Draft a QB that they like in April no later than the 3rd round. At some point, you need to find someone that competes for the starting job.

Not this year. They can actually can draft players that help them win now.

 

[CowboyRoy]

After this upcoming season they will either extend or trade Dak. If they extend it will be 50M at minimum. He simply isn't worth it.

NO QB is worth it.

So in your mind, what is Dak worth?

 

[plasticman]

Tom Brady, the GOAT, threw 3 INT's in the 2020 NFC championship game and his team bailed him out. The first INT was midway through the 3rd quarter and the other two were in the 4th quarter. People don't remember that because they won. They won because the rest of the team stepped up when Brady was having a bad game.

That is what championship teams do. There are times when it is someone else's turn to be the hero but nobody stepped up against the 49ers.

Dak's first INT came on 3rd and 9 after Zeke gained one yard on 1st and ten while Pollard was stopped for no gain on 2nd and 9, Bpth INT's came in the first half and in the first play of the 4th quarter the 49ers broke a 9-9 tie with a TD that made it 16-9.

I'm not defending Dak, he played a horrible game. However, the outcome of the game was always in question and a big play by any Cowboys player could have sent them to the NFC championship game.

Instead, we had Zeke's effort of 10 carries for 26 yards. The Cowboys had 7 penalties, their highest number in seven games. Gallup delivered 0 receptions on three pass attempts.

Dak threw 17 INT's last season when you include the playoffs. However, 14 of them were in the first half of the game which means they really didn't effect the outcome, not to mention, many of them bounced off the hands of a receiver.

Again, I am not defending Dak, I'm saying that when he had poor performances that led to defeat, he had accomplices. Other teammates on offense rarely stepped up to alleviate the pressure.

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[Miller]

You intimated that Dak and romo were the problem. They werent.

And now you cherry pick the two niner games and completely blow off the rest of his career and other 4 playoff games.

Overly putting stock in two playoff games against the #1 D in the NFL both times.

Does the Rams, GB, Seattle and Bucs playoff games not count to you? Is that because Dak played great in those playoff games?

LOL.........so your a Romo cry baby? Well that makes sense.

As far as competition Im all for that. But again, Jerry doesnt like to do that. So again Jerry is the problem, not Dak or Romo.

No, I didn't. You have serious issues with reading comprehension and anger. Go reread my first post. It was actually about the organization but because you don't read before you rant you went and attacked. I said Dak and Romo were both as responsible as the FO and other star players not showing up and that there was too much talk from all involved. I literally talked about both QBs not playing well in spots after YOU brought in Romo and now you are saying I'm a Romo crybaby. It really is like talking to children here. We have 4 playoff wins since 1996. How are you bragging on anything. Dak has been horrible in late games...Philly and playoffs at times. Romo the same. I said that in both posts. I was actually semi-agreeing with you in my first post and you just went scorched earth for ZERO reason. I don't care about the 49ers D either. That is an excuse. Last year the 49ers D was actually getting worse the last half of the season. The whole point is if you pay a guy big dollar there can't be excuses and we have had excuses Organization wide for a long time.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No, I didn't. You have serious issues with reading comprehension and anger. Go reread my first post. It was actually about the organization but because you don't read before you rant you went and attacked. I said Dak and Romo were both as responsible as the FO and other star players not showing up and that there was too much talk from all involved. I literally talked about both QBs not playing well in spots after YOU brought in Romo and now you are saying I'm a Romo crybaby. It really is like talking to children here. We have 4 playoff wins since 1996. How are you bragging on anything. Dak has been horrible in late games...Philly and playoffs at times. Romo the same. I said that in both posts. I was actually semi-agreeing with you in my first post and you just went scorched earth for ZERO reason.

You said point blank that Dak and Romo were the reason we didnt go further in the playoffs.

"Dak has been horrible late in games" This is a complete and total lie.

Problem is you and what you say.

What am I bragging about? LOL

"we have 4 playoff wins since 1996"

There you go blaming the QB's again. Just another poster that doesnt understand football or QB play.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

have you looked at the top 15 QB salaries? and upgrading the QB is not easy. that's a fallacy and a moot argument on your part.
and now Geno smith who SUCKED for years and now is your hero seemingly.

and Purdy is a rookie. if you recall at some point Dak was a rookie and played under his initial contract.

and who is the upgrade you are speaking of? you threw two names out there. but neither is available. and again Geno Smith SUCKED for far longer than his one year of semi-success and now he is highly paid.

Reread my post. The point is you’re not going to upgrade Dak. But you don’t need to upgrade Dak to upgrade the team. The top 15 salaries is why.

Yes, Dak was a rookie once, that was the window to push the limit of your salary cap. Geno did suck, and that’s why he was so cheap last year. And Purdy will be cheap for 3 more years. As will all the QBs coming out of this draft

 

[Miller]

You said point blank that Dak and Romo were the reason we didnt go further in the playoffs.

"Dak has been horrible late in games" This is a complete and total lie.

Problem is you and what you say.

What am I bragging about? LOL

"we have 4 playoff wins since 1996"

There you go blaming the QB's again. Just another poster that doesnt understand football or QB play.

Really? This is the quote from my first post in this thread that you went off on

"The issue isn’t Dak per se. He’s part of the systematic issue that Romo, Dak, the Jones family, etc bring and that’s too much talk."

Then I ended

"The franchise is stuck in the vortex and the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame. But the JG era is what put alot of stank on it."

That is my first and last sentence. Learn to read and comprehend

And QBs are part of the issue. The have failed with their large contracts in big games. It is the nature of the beast with this team and NFL. You don't comprehend reading or the NFL and financials

 

[CowboyRoy]

Really? This is the quote from my first post in this thread that you went off on

"The issue isn’t Dak per se. He’s part of the systematic issue that Romo, Dak, the Jones family, etc bring and that’s too much talk."

Then I ended

"The franchise is stuck in the vortex and the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame. But the JG era is what put alot of stank on it."

That is my first and last sentence. Learn to read and comprehend

And QBs are part of the issue. The have failed with their large contracts in big games. It is the nature of the beast with this team
and NFL. You don't comprehend reading or the NFL and financials

If Dak made the NFCCG twice and was knocking this wouldn’t be an issue. Same with the teams the last 2-3 decades. The franchise is stuck in the vortex and the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame.

This is the line where you blame the QB's. Any other questions? You seem to not be able to even remember your BS posts. LOL Its not my reading comprehension, its your memory and football comprehension.

You clearly understand little about QB play and the concept of football as a team sport.

Your a typical QB challenged football fan that doesnt understand the game.

 

[kskboys]

I don’t think anyone is saying it’s OK. Unfortunately it’s become part of paying Market Price on new contracts .

You don’t have to be the top talent to receive top pay . Because the top pay basically changes every year .

If you think Dak/Kyler/Cousins/Watson got what they deserved, then you think it's OK.

 

[kskboys]

He isn't at the top.

Don't be obtuse. When Dak got his contract, it was a top of the market contract. If it was a little less or a little more, it's still a top of the market contract.

 

[kskboys]

If Dak made the NFCCG twice and was knocking this wouldn’t be an issue. Same with the teams the last 2-3 decades. The franchise is stuck in the vortex and the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame.

This is the line where you blame the QB's. Any other questions? You seem to not be able to even remember your BS posts. LOL Its not my reading comprehension, its your memory and football comprehension.

You clearly understand little about QB play and the concept of football as a team sport.

Your a typical QB challenged football fan that doesnt understand the game.

Did you start this thread just so you could reiterate this stuff?

 

[Miller]

If Dak made the NFCCG twice and was knocking this wouldn’t be an issue. Same with the teams the last 2-3 decades. The franchise is stuck in the vortex and the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame.

This is the line where you blame the QB's. Any other questions? You seem to not be able to even remember your BS posts. LOL Its not my reading comprehension, its your memory and football comprehension.

You clearly understand little about QB play and the concept of football as a team sport.

Your a typical QB challenged football fan that doesnt understand the game.

That's not blaming the QBs...reread it. You literally got caught ignoring the first sentence and I busted you. You then went and made up something else not said. The first sentence is what the post was about...the organization, including QBs, has not done enough. Do you want me to go through each line like your teacher in your RIF class used to? I can do that.

"If Dak made the NFCCG twice and was knocking this wouldn’t be an issue."--This is in context of my first sentence about the organization as a whole and that people...NOT ME..call him out because he doesn't have a resume...thus the next sentence you skipped.."Same with the teams the last 2-3 decades" which includes EVERYONE.

"The franchise is stuck in the vortex and the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame." ---Now little Johnny reread the last part of the sentence..."so they get the blame." I did not blame them....so they get the blame...means that is why people are doing it.

It's incredulous that I have to teach a reading comprehension course to the lowest common denominators here because they attack a post that actually was supporting their position.

Helpful hint....telling people they don't understand the game is the call sign for..."I got it handed to me and it's embarrassing so I'll use the you don't know football card."

Please stop. It's embarrassing.

 

[Miller]

Did you start this thread just so you could reiterate this stuff?

It is bizarre. My initial post was an explanation of why fans feel a certain way and it blames everyone...QBs, FO, star players...yet the guy is on me like stink on S because he can't read and just wants to attack about Dak.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's not blaming the QBs...reread it. You literally got caught ignoring the first sentence and I busted you. You then went and made up something else not said. The first sentence is what the post was about...the organization, including QBs, has not done enough. Do you want me to go through each line like your teacher in your RIF class used to? I can do that.

"If Dak made the NFCCG twice and was knocking this wouldn’t be an issue."--This is in context of my first sentence about the organization as a whole and that people...NOT ME..call him out because he doesn't have a resume...thus the next sentence you skipped.."Same with the teams the last 2-3 decades which includes EVERYONE"

"The franchise is stuck in the vortex and the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame." ---Now little Johnny reread the last part of the sentence..."so they get the blame." I did not blame them....so they get the blame...means that is why people are doing it.

It's incredulous that I have to teach a reading comprehension course to the lowest common denominators here because they attack a post that actually was supporting their position.

Helpful hint....telling people they don't understand the game is the call sign for..."I got it handed to me and it's embarrassing so I'll use the you don't know football card."

Please stop. It's embarrassing.

Ok buddy.............................the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame.

QBs is more than one genius. And saying they get blame is pretty straight forward.

You cant even remember or read your own words when its quoted to you.

On top of the fact that you dont understand football. LOL

Pretty pathetic

QB's dont make championship games teams do. Until you understand this simple team concept and give importance to the team and coaching around the QB, you will always look laughable in your analysis.

 

[Miller]

Ok buddy.............................the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame.

Did you not read the post? You obviously have reading issues because I explained it. My whole post was about why fans are hating and how it is actually the organization and players as a whole...."so they get the blame" is just saying they are also part of the massive issue and people latch to that. This is comical. Have a good day man. I've never posted something so innocuous on here that gets someones hackles up.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did you not read the post? You obviously have reading issues because I explained it. My whole post was about why fans are hating and how it is actually the organization and players as a whole...."so they get the blame" is just saying they are also part of the massive issue and people latch to that. This is comical. Have a good day man. I've never posted something so innocuous on here that gets someones hackles up.

You can deflect all you want or try to talk your way out of your stance.

I quoted you directly and THAT quote was got me started. If you cant see why I would think what I thought based on your quote, then your even more lost than I thought.

 

[kskboys]

It is bizarre. My initial post was an explanation of why fans feel a certain way and it blames everyone...QBs, FO, star players...yet the guy is on me like stink on S because he can't read and just wants to attack about Dak.

You can't have a discussion about Dak on this site. There's about 6 or 8 posters on either side of the argument who don't do anything except spat for page upon page about Dak. They simply reiterate over and over and over. No new ideas, no discussion, no thought process, nothing like that, just a constant reiteration of what they've said before, complete w/ numerous personal attacks. If you try to say anything about Dak, the side that feels slighted will jump in and attack you so they can once again reiterate their tired old lines.

It was the exact same thing w/ Romo.

 

[Miller]

You can deflect all you want or try to talk your way out of your stance.

I quoted you directly and THAT quote was got me started. If you cant see why I would think what I thought based on your quote, then your even more lost than I thought.

It's not deflecting. It is reading comprehension plain and simple and you took one part out of the whole thing and made it a Dak thing. You have serious issues. I basically clowned you on a post that supported your position and rather than just go with it, you decided to look the fool. Here is the post. Any rational poster without a far Dak opinion on one side or the other can see this. In fact the first sentence sets up the rest but I'm sure this is what made your RIF teachers pull their hair out. In fact my last sentence is where I place blame and you still don't get it. It's embarrassing.


"The issue isn’t Dak per se. He’s part of the systematic issue that Romo, Dak, the Jones family, etc bring and that’s too much talk. If Dak made the NFCCG twice and was knocking this wouldn’t be an issue. Same with the teams the last 2-3 decades. The franchise is stuck in the vortex and the QBs haven’t helped matters so they get blame. But the JG era is what put alot of stank on it."

 

[Cowboys5217]

Did you not read the post? You obviously have reading issues because I explained it. My whole post was about why fans are hating and how it is actually the organization and players as a whole...."so they get the blame" is just saying they are also part of the massive issue and people latch to that. This is comical. Have a good day man. I've never posted something so innocuous on here that gets someones hackles up.

He is one of the ones who can never admit they are wrong. No need to try and explain it further to him. He is obtuse intentionally.