BTB: Prediction: It won’t take long for Randy Gregory to win Cowboys starting right DE spot

[Corso]

Ill tell you what.......how about I just make the angry insulting guy disappear? Poof!!!

Whoa...

What happened?

 

[conner01]

I will believe it when I see it. I think he will improve as the season goes on.

I see him used as a pass rusher on passing downs
I think he can make an impact there as the season goes on but I don’t see him being the starter anytime soon
And I have no issue with just using him to get after the QB

 

[OmerV]

Another wild claim. You made a whole laundry list of things that had to go right. I talked about two things. Lee going down and another injury. You actually made my point. A whole bunch of things need to right and only a few need to go wrong. And obviously Lee actually getting hurt would be par for the course.

Bottom line is my few things are much more likely to happen then your laundry list of positives. Now go ahead and curse me out some more and make more wild claims.

Talk about wild claims.

No, I didn't make a laundry list of things that HAD to go right. I made a laundry list of things that could go right to show you that it makes no sense to act as if things going wrong and everything falling apart are the only possible directions for things to go. You are trying to prop yourself up with another nonsense argument.

 

[OmerV]

This is true.

Nope, it's really not. I never said everything has to go right for the defense to be good, I said there were positive possibilities just as there are negative ones. He stated one side, as if that was the only possible direction things could go. I merely showed there is another side too.

 

[Corso]

Nope, it's really not. I never said everything has to go right for the defense to be good, I said there were positive possibilities just as there are negative ones. He stated one side, as if that was the only possible direction things could go. I merely showed there is another side too.

True. Very true.
There's reason to look forward with optimism.
But things DO have to go right. Several things.

Which is pretty much true for every team, every year. Barring the very few exceptions...

 

[xwalker]

IMO the real question is can he effectively play 4-3 DE at 250-258lbs .......I'm not sure
Maybe rotational but not as a FULL-TIME starter.

The Cowboys prefer a heavy rotation anyway.

The Cowboys ideal scenario for 2018 is likely Taco starting at RDE with Gregory in a rotation with Taco.

With all of his time away from football, they will not want Gregory to be the starter even if he is awesome in the preseason. They'll want to avoid that type of pressure on him mentally and too much too soon makes injury more likely.

I would not be shocked if Gregory was inactive early in the season just because they'll want to ease him into football. They've been conservative more often than not in recent years.

 

[Stash]

So I get grief if he makes it through? IF he makes it through and is playing well, then you can give me grief. I will gladly take it.

Well yeah, you were the guy who said this, right?

"The odds of Gregory making it through with no suspension or injury are at about 50% the way I am seeing it."

 

[CowboyRoy]

Well yeah, you were the guy who said this, right?

"The odds of Gregory making it through with no suspension or injury are at about 50% the way I am seeing it."

Yah which means he is just as likely to make it as not. I wouldnt be shocked if he makes it.

 

[gjkoeppen]

I'm encouraged by the fact that his "ONE sack" happened to come in the last game that he played. When he was finally over the ankle injury that hampered him for his entire rookie season. You remember, the one nobody wants to acknowledge or talk about?

And his best performance was his last one. And it happened to come against one of - if not the best - left tackles in the game in Jason Peters.

Why would you think he's lost his quick step?



I think that this claim is totally false. This team hasn't stuck by this player through all of his trials and tribulations to simply cut him now.

Worry about Charles Tapper, not Randy Gregory.

So you're basing all of your lofty declarations off ONE SINGLE GAME OVER 18 MONTHS AGO AND HASN'T PLAYED A SINGLE DOWN SINCE? Now I hope he's able to get past his short comings but to make any kind of written in stone statement without seeing what kind of football shape he's in now and how he plays now after that long layoff is moronic. It's funny that a couple of people that have actual NFL experience have said he's got his work cut out for him to make the 53 man roster the implication is not starting but making the team. Actual football people don't think a single game over 18 months ago equates some great career.

Also the Cowboys weren't paying him and he wasn't costing a roster spot while he was suspended. SO what was the big rush or need to cut him before they could see what he can do if he ever got reinstated. Weak, very weak argument.

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[DC Cowboy]

This article still won't stop the naysayers and the usual suspects though. I am sure they will be coming out of the woodwork soon.
Instead of accepting the possibility Gregory can compete at a high level by the end of TC, and stay clean, they will give the usual stuff.

Gregory can get in the mythical football shape over an off season, just as well as any other player can.
That football shape may only apply if a player returns mid season.

I am not sure why some people are having a hard time with this "football shape" issue. He has been working out, per reports, and has TC (whenever they let him practice with the team) to get into football shape. IF he only get to play the last 2 preseason games that will do it.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I don't have to see a full-time "starter", I just need to see a guy who's out there in obvious pass rushing situations.

I don't know that I even want Gregory to start. Let him split RDE with Taco. Taco is the base, Gregory is the nickel.

I want Taco to get time too.

Again, are we really going to be paying Crawford 6mil to take snaps aways from Gregory, Taco, and Armstrong? He's a nice player, but those other guys are the future. Save 5 mil and keep Ealy. Who could also be a nice bit of the future. Or at least get churned into a decent comp pick.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

His “liability” against the run has been disproven by methodical all-22 and intensive college coverage/video.

It’s a catch phrase here in Cowboyland. He is very adept at stifling run, in the admittedly small amount of gameplay we have from him.

No one is calling him Tank-level talent at the run, but he isn’t shabby. He’s aggressive and penetrates, and has IQ to find the runner

college? did you say college? you did say college? right? unfortunately this is the NFL.....

and the tapes you saw are from 2015...right...its 2018...3 years later...

 

[waving monkey]

With all the Gregory ball washing in here, it feels like 2015 again.

your young arent you

 

[waving monkey]

Should I not be grumpy about a 7 time loser, wasted 2nd round draft pick? Maybe we just all applaud him. Collins is out indefinitely with a foot, and Irvin is gone for at least 4 games. Please tell me what is there to be excited about on the Dline? Its all falling apart again before the season even starts. And training camp hasnt even started. More injuries coming no doubt. One more major injury on the Defense and we will be one of the worst units in the NFL. Lee goes down and we will be.

Woooohooooo!!!! Go Cowboys!!!!!

And who are we depending on the save the day? Randy Gregory!!!! Yahhh!!!!!!

 

[waving monkey]

college? did you say college? you did say college? right? unfortunately this is the NFL.....

and the tapes you saw are from 2015...right...its 2018...3 years later...

their are sources

 

[Idgit]

I don’t trust Gregory to stay clean, and I believe he let the team down badly early here. But I have little doubt about his talent. He’s a talented spot rusher already and can get better. The several of the few games he played without being suspended he played with a HAS, too, remember.

I’d like to see him and Collins in the lineup together at some point. He’s a good piece in a rotation of 8 or 9 guys.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

college? did you say college? you did say college? right? unfortunately this is the NFL.....

and the tapes you saw are from 2015...right...its 2018...3 years later...

Well being he hasn't played much NFL....what else could you use to look at what type of player he is?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don’t trust Gregory to stay clean, and I believe he let the team down badly early here. But I have little doubt about his talent. He’s a talented spot rusher already and can get better. The several of the few games he played without being suspended he played with a HAS, too, remember.

I’d like to see him and Collins in the lineup together at some point. He’s a good piece in a rotation of 8 or 9 guys.

If he had a sickness or something mental going down....I can't say he let this team down. A bit harsh.

 

[Stash]

So you're basing all of your lofty declarations off ONE SINGLE GAME OVER 18 MONTHS AGO AND HASN'T PLAYED A SINGLE DOWN SINCE?

What are "all of my lofty declarations"?

Now I hope he's able to get past his short comings but to make any kind of written in stone statement without seeing what kind of football shape he's in now and how he plays now after that long layoff is moronic. It's funny that a couple of people that have actual NFL experience have said he's got his work cut out for him to make the 53 man roster the implication is not starting but making the team. Actual football people don't think a single game over 18 months ago equates some great career.

What's being "written in stone"? Is hyperbole your deal?

What exactly are the "actual football people" saying?

Also the Cowboys weren't paying him and he wasn't costing a roster spot while he was suspended. SO what was the big rush or need to cut him before they could see what he can do if he ever got reinstated. Weak, very weak argument.

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Not nearly as "weak" as the ******** you're making up here.[/QUOTE]

 

[RoboQB]

Here's the pic Cyberbob posted to land credence to his "skinny" argument

FROM FEB 2015

Holy crap! That's 3 years ago. He'd look bigger now even without touching a weight... smh
Research, people. Research!... lol