BTB: Prediction: It won’t take long for Randy Gregory to win Cowboys starting right DE spot

[CowboyRoy]

And if Lee stays healthy ....?
And if Gregory can at least help as a situational pass rusher ...?
And if the young DBs continue to develop ...?
And if LVE is the player the Cowboys think ...?
And if Jaylon is healthier and can take advantage of a year of experience ...?

But, hell, those are positive "if's". Why consider those when we can stick with the Lee "if" about going down, and treat Irvins 4 game suspension as if it condemns the defense all year?

Yah, we can do that one too. If ALLLLL that happens then the defense should improve. Might even be better than average. We could do some damage. But I wouldnt expect much from V. Too young.

But the difference between your IFs and my ifs is you had about 7 or 8 there that have to happen. I have one or two. The others I already mentioned have already happened. AS in the suspension of Irvin and injury with Collins.

See a difference there? No? Anyway.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Inability to have a civil and reasonable conversation doesn't not qualify you to question someone else's intelligence, nor does the need to be a jerk, nor does the fact that you ranted about the entire defense going to hell but can't seem to remember what you wrote 15 minutes ago.

Im a jerk because I am upset about suspension and injuries at the same grouping? Yet you sit there and curse me out. Now Im a jerk and a Dckhead? Enjoy your benching pal.

 

[Corso]

Yah, we can do that one too. If ALLLLL that happens then the defense should improve. Might even be better than average. We could do some damage. But I wouldnt expect much from V. Too young.

But the difference between your IFs and my ifs is you had about 7 or 8 there that have to happen. I have one or two. The others I already mentioned have already happened. AS in the suspension of Irvin and injury with Collins.

See a difference there? No? Anyway.

Look guys, this dude doesn't like to look forward with a positive outlook toward much.
He's a Realist.

He enjoys being here with his anger and frustration and he wants you to be in his shoes with him.

It's cool. It's probably therapeutic.

It's all good.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That sounds fair, nothing is guaranteed. I'll make sure to give you some grief if he makes it, feel free to give me some if he doesn't!

So I get grief if he makes it through? IF he makes it through and is playing well, then you can give me grief. I will gladly take it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Lol... I like how you used the word "symmetry".
Cool stuff.

Did I spell it wrong? LOL

 

[Corso]

Did I spell it wrong? LOL

Absolutely not. I actually enjoyed your usage of the word.
Is that wrong?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Look guys, this dude doesn't like to look forward with a positive outlook toward much.
He's a Realist.

He enjoys being here with his anger and frustration and he wants you to be in his shoes with him.

It's cool. It's probably therapeutic.

It's all good.

You talk positively about things that are positive and negatively about things are not so positive. Common sense stuff there pal. Talk to me about the Oline, Dak, the run game and we can glee all day. Talk to me about the Dline that is falling apart in front of our eyes and you'll get a good chuckle from me. Either way I dont curse people out for a difference of opinion. Buts its always nice to see a boy get all riled up.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Absolutely not. I actually enjoyed your usage of the word.
Is that wrong?

should I have said "symbiotic relationship"?

 

[Corso]

You talk positively about things that are positive and negatively about things are not so positive. Common sense stuff there pal. Talk to me about the Oline, Dak, the run game and we can glee all day. Talk to me about the Dline that is falling apart in front of our eyes and you'll get a good chuckle from me. Either way I dont curse people out for a difference of opinion. Buts its always nice to see a boy get all riled up.

I cursed? I don't curse...
And you don't seem like someone that's fun to talk to. Sorry bud.
You seem more like a toxic conversation, tbh. No offense.

 

[OmerV]

Yah, we can do that one too. If ALLLLL that happens then the defense should improve. Might even be better than average. We could do some damage. But I wouldnt expect much from V. Too young.

But the difference between your IFs and my ifs is you had about 7 or 8 there that have to happen. I have one or two. The others I already mentioned have already happened. AS in the suspension of Irvin and injury with Collins.

See a difference there? No? Anyway.

Actually, no I don't have 7 or 8 that have to happen. One or two of the positive "ifs" can offset one or two negative ones. And a big part of your negative argument is based on a player who will only be out 4 games, and another who may not be out any longer than that, and even if he is we have reasonable alternatives. Losing Lee is the only real argument you have, and it's only an if.

But the point is, I can look at both the positive and negative possibilities, yet you claim to be the one with the realistic viewpoint even though all you look at is the negative. Looking at only one side makes you both unrealistic and unreasonable.

 

[Corso]

should I have said "symbiotic relationship"?

That would have been pretty interesting! Too bad you didn't think of that first while typing...

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Anybody that says he can't play DE didn't study him in college.

He was one of the best run defenders in his draft class of the good pass outside rushers.

IMO the real question is can he effectively play 4-3 DE at 250-258lbs .......I'm not sure
Maybe rotational but not as a FULL-TIME starter.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Actually, no I don't have 7 or 8 that have to happen. Just one or two of the positive "ifs" can offset your one or two negative ones. And a big part of your argument is base on a player who will only be out 4 games, and another who may not be out any longer than that, and even if he is we have reasonable alternatives. Losing Lee is the only real argument you have, and it's only an if.

But the point is, I can look at both the positive and negative possibilities, yet you claim to be the one with the realistic viewpoint even though all you look at is the negative. Looking at only one side makes you both unrealistic and unreasonable.

Didnt I just look at both? I simply made a statement. With Irvin out and Collins out with injury we are one or two things on defense away from disaster. Then we just talked about the positive.

Look, Im having this same conversation with two other guys and were both laughing and having fun. Your the only one that is curing me out and making these wild claims.

 

[Corso]

IMO the real question is can he effectively play 4-3 DE at 250-258lbs .......I'm not sure
Maybe rotational but not as a FULL-TIME starter.

He sure looks rotational right about now, doesn't he? And that's being nice. I hope he comes in like gangbusters and shows out.
I won't place money on it..., but I can hope.

 

[OmerV]

Didnt I just look at both? I simply made a statement. With Irvin out and Collins out with injury we are one or two things on defense away from disaster. Then we just talked about the positive.

Look, Im having this same conversation with two other guys and were both laughing and having fun. Your the only one that is curing me out and making these wild claims.

No, I talked about the positives, and you passed them off as insignificant compared to your negatives.

 

[Corso]

No, I talked about the positives, and you passed them off as insignificant compared to your negatives.

His M.O..
Get used to it. He's a cool guy. He just sees things with a strong shake of cynicism. He's always been quite consistent in this.
Sometimes it draws my cockles, but then I realize what and who I'm talking to and calm down.
He's not a bad person. He wants this team to win.
He's not happy with things and it's going to take some serious good to break him out of his dour mood.

There's more than one here like that. Doesn't make them bad peeps.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No, I talked about the positives, and you passed them off as insignificant compared to your negatives.

Another wild claim. You made a whole laundry list of things that had to go right. I talked about two things. Lee going down and another injury. You actually made my point. A whole bunch of things need to right and only a few need to go wrong. And obviously Lee actually getting hurt would be par for the course.

Bottom line is my few things are much more likely to happen then your laundry list of positives. Now go ahead and curse me out some more and make more wild claims.

 

[Corso]

Another wild claim. You made a whole laundry list of things that had to go right. I talked about two things. Lee going down and another injury. You actually made my point. A whole bunch of things need to right and only a few need to go wrong. And obviously Lee actually getting hurt would be par for the course.

Bottom line is my few things are much more likely to happen then your laundry list of positives. Now go ahead and curse me out some more and make more wild claims.

This is true.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No, you are a jerk because of how you reacted to others who merely expressed a viewpoint. I have no problem with you having doubts about Gregory. I have them too. But you can respond to people in a reasonable, and thoughtful way, and you don't have to have an extreme reaction as if the world is falling apart.

Ill tell you what.......how about I just make the angry insulting guy disappear? Poof!!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

This is true.

Yep.....A simple point.