Can La'el Collins play RT?

[Parche]

You can best answer this by figuring out what they play against. There is more speed and off-the-snap acceleration at DE or OLB (usually). Tackles need to be quicker off the snap and it helps if they have long arms and quick feet. The long arms are so they can make contact with the pass rusher before the pass rusher makes contact with them. Hand placement, technique with the hands and upper-body strength are vital to deal with the combination speed-strength from NFL edge rushers. They need quick feet to deal with the moves and counter-moves from pass rushers who might start wide and dip or spin inside, or start in the body, then work outside. The quickness off the snap is a must at LT and really pretty necessary at RT, too. Otherwise the edge rusher can capture the corner off the snap and it's all over. What makes Tyron so good is he's solid off the snap and his hands are maybe the best in the league. Once he gets his hands on you, with his upper body strength, you're basically done. His feet are great, too.

At guard you work more in a small box, so you need to be stronger in the lower body (upper body strength helps too) but you can get by being a little slower off the snap because DT in the league are usually slower off the snap than an edge guy. At guard the leverage game is just as important as the speed game. If you can find a guard that can also move, that opens up all kinds of options and if you watch Zach Martin play you will see how.

One knock on Collins was poor hands in pass protection and average off-the-snap ability, which is why he projected better at guard. Free is much better with his hands but Free has lost a step in his lateral movement and get-off-the ball ability and that's why he seemed to get worse as the year went on this season. Collins also has slower feet, so he gets caught leaning with the upper body often. It's not usually a big deal at guard, but can be disastrous at tackle.

WOW, thanks. And yes, I understand what youre saying with Zach Martin. For example, quicker guards can excel and play pulls like him. For slower guards, surely youre not going many pulls at all.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Please point to any quote from coaches or reporters indicating he was moved for struggling with his footwork.

I won't hold my breath.

The coaches are not going say to publically why they moved him from RT to G in most cases.

They designated him in OTA's as an OL, they wanted to see where he best fit and excelled as any team would accordingly.

They also value position flex as they do with all their players and wanted to see if he could handle multiple positions.

Collins played primarily RT in OTA's in part due to the Free injury and in part to see how he could handle the RT position.

Jason Garrett at start of OTA's: “The big thing for him is to try to get him acclimated as quickly as he can. So right now he’s going to play right tackle for us.”

Collins on transition to RT: “Everything -- I had to switch over from playing left pretty much my whole career to right,” he said. “So now I have to switch up my stance and really re-wire my whole mind toward where I want to go when I hear playcalls and things like that.”

Collins had his share of ups and downs on Wednesday, as he showcased the talent that made him a first-round consideration, while also coping with the growing pains of a position switch – not to mention the transition to NFL football.

“It’s definitely a new position for me, so it’s a new challenge,” he said. “I have to go out each and every day and focus on the small things – my technique, my assignments. It’s been a great two days.”

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/05/28/la’el-collins-starting-out-right-tackle-eager-get-acclimated

With Doug Free recovering from offseason foot surgery, Cowboys rookie offensive lineman La’el Collins spent the first week of OTAs at right tackle. This week, he moved to left guard, which seems more likely to be his position when the season begins.

For Collins, who made no secret of the fact that his move to the right side took some adjusting, left guard brings a certain comfortability.
“You’re right there with down linemen, so everything is a lot quicker, which is good for me,” Collins said, per the Dallas Morning News. “I feel like that is part of one of my strengths, being able to get on guys quick is an advantage.”


Source: La'el Collins Moves to Left Guard | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/blue-star/Lael-Collins-Moves-to-Left-Guard-306271421.html#ixzz4Wyd0gvp4
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Within two weeks of OTA's primarily at RT while playing some G, Collins was inside taking reps at LG and RG primarily and as we all know has played LG ever since.

Collins never played RT in college (no tape) and lasted about two weeks at RT with any primary focus in the NFL.

It does not take a genius to figure out that since Jason had him at RT to get in his words "to try to get him acclimated as quickly as he can. So right now he’s going to play right tackle for us”, that moving him inside was the better fit for Collins because he was struggling at RT comparative to how he was playing at G.

Collins struggled with stance, entire thinking pattern and of course this would also correlate to his footwork as Collins himself said "Everything".

Broaddus has mentioned this many times on the team shows about his footwork issues, he is in house and is often watching the player.

Further, Brugler informs us that Collins has a limited kickslide range and has choppy footwork, combining this with having to learn a new side and position it all makes sense.

Brugler, Pauline and others feel he can play swing tackle, but that he is ideally-suited to play inside at G in the NFL.

The Cowboys coaches moved Collins to LG and have not looked back, they are playing him where he is ideally-suited to play.

All the talk about Collins at RT is simply projection conjecture and nothing more, it is not what he does best, that is why he is currently playing LG in the NFL.

If he looked better at RT, he would be playing the position right now for us, sorry but he hasn't.

Demonstrate any evidence that the Cowboys feel Collins is a better fit at RT than LG? I will hold my breath!

We simply disagree and at this point further exchange is superfluous on the subject!

I have the comfort of knowing right now Collins is playing where he is ideally-suited to play in the NFL, that is LG.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The coaches are not going say to publically why they moved him from RT to G in most cases.

They designated him in OTA's as an OL, they wanted to see where he best fit and excelled as any team would accordingly.

They also value position flex as they do with all their players and wanted to see if he could handle multiple positions.

Collins played primarily RT in OTA's in part due to the Free injury and in part to see how he could handle the RT position.

Jason Garrett at start of OTA's: “The big thing for him is to try to get him acclimated as quickly as he can. So right now he’s going to play right tackle for us.”

Collins on transition to RT: “Everything -- I had to switch over from playing left pretty much my whole career to right,” he said. “So now I have to switch up my stance and really re-wire my whole mind toward where I want to go when I hear playcalls and things like that.”

Collins had his share of ups and downs on Wednesday, as he showcased the talent that made him a first-round consideration, while also coping with the growing pains of a position switch – not to mention the transition to NFL football.

“It’s definitely a new position for me, so it’s a new challenge,” he said. “I have to go out each and every day and focus on the small things – my technique, my assignments. It’s been a great two days.”

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/05/28/la’el-collins-starting-out-right-tackle-eager-get-acclimated

With Doug Free recovering from offseason foot surgery, Cowboys rookie offensive lineman La’el Collins spent the first week of OTAs at right tackle. This week, he moved to left guard, which seems more likely to be his position when the season begins.

For Collins, who made no secret of the fact that his move to the right side took some adjusting, left guard brings a certain comfortability.
“You’re right there with down linemen, so everything is a lot quicker, which is good for me,” Collins said, per the Dallas Morning News. “I feel like that is part of one of my strengths, being able to get on guys quick is an advantage.”


Source: La'el Collins Moves to Left Guard | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/blue-star/Lael-Collins-Moves-to-Left-Guard-306271421.html#ixzz4Wyd0gvp4
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Within two weeks of OTA's primarily at RT while playing some G, Collins was inside taking reps at LG and RG primarily and as we all know has played LG ever since.

Collins never played RT in college (no tape) and lasted about two weeks at RT with any primary focus in the NFL.

It does not take a genius to figure out that since Jason had him at RT to get in his words "to try to get him acclimated as quickly as he can. So right now he’s going to play right tackle for us”, that moving him inside was the better fit for Collins because he was struggling at RT comparative to how he was playing at G.

Collins struggled with stance, entire thinking pattern and of course this would also correlate to his footwork as Collins himself said "Everything".

Broaddus has mentioned this many times on the team shows about his footwork issues, he is in house and is often watching the player.

Further, Brugler informs us that Collins has a limited kickslide range and has choppy footwork, combining this with having to learn a new side and position it all makes sense.

Brugler, Pauline and others feel he can play swing tackle, but that he is ideally-suited to play inside at G in the NFL.

The Cowboys coaches moved Collins to LG and have not looked back, they are playing him where he is ideally-suited to play.

All the talk about Collins at RT is simply projection conjecture and nothing more, it is not what he does best, that is why he is currently playing LG in the NFL.

If he looked better at RT, he would be playing the position right now for us, sorry but he hasn't.

Demonstrate any evidence that the Cowboys feel Collins is a better fit at RT than LG? I will hold my breath!

We simply disagree and at this point further exchange is superfluous on the subject!

I have the comfort of knowing right now Collins is playing where he is ideally-suited to play in the NFL, that is LG.

Still waiting. Still not holding my breath.

Congratulations, you showed that playing guard is easier for a newcomer to the league.

I asked for something saying he struggled with poor footwork. You couldn't find it so now you are trying to make up things about correlation.

If the coaches didn't say then why are you making things up then? That should be your key to say we don't know. But no you have to confirm your bias of course.

Brugler said he could do both.

“He brings position flexibility. He can play guard. He can play tackle,” said Brugler with the G-Bag Nation on 105.3 The Fan. “At LSU, he was a guard as a sophomore. He moved to left tackle the last two years…He’s a very durable, reliable player.”

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824825/lael-collins

Here is his partner at draftscout repudiating your take:

As a pass blocker, Collins shows good initial quickness in his kick-slide and uses his long reach to maintain the arc. When he gets his hands on opponents and remains square, it is generally lights out for the defender. Collins showed his willingness to potentially convert inside, impressing on a few snaps at left guard at the Senior Bowl.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824825/lael-collins

Nice sophistry though. Keep googling.

PS you should learn how to use the quote function. I had to look at the links to determine what it was that was quoted and what it was that you were making up. None of your links even talks about stance. Hearsay about Broaddus is simply crap. He said it so many times you couldn't find it online.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Still waiting. Still not holding my breath.

Congratulations, you showed that playing guard is easier for a newcomer to the league.

I asked for something saying he struggled with poor footwork. You couldn't find it so now you are trying to make up things about correlation.

If the coaches didn't say then why are you making things up then? That should be your key to say we don't know. But no you have to confirm your bias of course.

Brugler said he could do both.



http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824825/lael-collins

Here is his partner at draftscout repudiating your take:



http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824825/lael-collins

Nice sophistry though. Keep googling.

PS you should learn how to use the quote function. I had to look at the links to determine what it was that was quoted and what it was that you were making up. None of your links even talks about stance. Hearsay about Broaddus is simply crap. He said it so many times you couldn't find it online.

Common sense dictates when Collins himself and reporters said Collins had adjustements, struggles with ups and downs clearly he struggled at the position.

It is not rocket science that when asked Collins indicated he was adjusting and struggling with "everything".

Garrett above states he was starting him at RT so he could get acclimated quicker but was then moved inside, why was he moved inside? Silence on your part because you have no answer that supports your baseless argument.

Broaddus, who was at the OTA's has indicated Collins struggled with footwork on their shows, he is a former pro scout, were you there?

The very fact that he was moved inside and flourished inside while currently playing the actual position exclusively now refutes your perspective alone.

You have nothing as usual, the "stance" comment by Collins himself is in the link below and quoted above, go figure you missed it accordingly, a typical strategy you employ.

“Everything -- I had to switch over from playing left pretty much my whole career to right,” he said. “So now I have to switch up my stance and really re-wire my whole mind toward where I want to go when I hear playcalls and things like that.”

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...tarting-out-right-tackle-eager-get-acclimated

Again, failure to understand the basic and simple distinction between can play swing tackle and is ideally-suited to play G in the NFL which is the fundamental issue.

Let us repeat this again, can play swing tackle but ideally-suited to play G in the NFL, go figure he plays G in the NFL.

Dane lists Collins weaknesses as do others but you ignore them because they frustrate your argument, he has limited kickslide range, lack of elite arm length and has choppy footwork.

Further, claiming people are "making things up" while ignoring it in print and video is your mode of operation, nothing new there as usual.

I trust Brugler and Pauline over Rob Rang any day for analysis which does nothing to disprove their perspectives on Collins, poor attempt at best.

Name calling is a logical fallacy, my argument is valid so sophistry claims are a poor use of the term, for Collins was moved from RT to G and currently plays G in the NFL by choice of the Dallas Cowboys coaches.

The fact is Collins was moved to G after two weeks in OTA's and does not play right tackle in the NFL and considering the fact he never has outside of OTA's or limited snaps including in college handles your baseless argument alone.

This is premature miscalculation at its finest and is based on projection conjecture and wishful thinking, nothing more.

Why is he not playing RT instead right now??? Still waiting not holding my breath!

 

[xwalker]

Common sense dictates when Collins himself and reporters said Collins had adjustements, struggles with ups and downs clearly he struggled at the position.

It is not rocket science that when asked Collins indicated he was adjusting and struggling with "everything".

Garrett above states he was starting him at RT so he could get acclimated quicker but was then moved inside, why was he moved inside? Silence on your part because you have no answer that supports your baseless argument.

Broaddus, who was at the OTA's has indicated Collins struggled with footwork on their shows, he is a former pro scout, were you there?

The very fact that he was moved inside and flourished inside while currently playing the actual position exclusively now refutes your perspective alone.

You have nothing as usual, the "stance" comment by Collins himself is in the link below and quoted above, go figure you missed it accordingly, a typical strategy you employ.

“Everything -- I had to switch over from playing left pretty much my whole career to right,” he said. “So now I have to switch up my stance and really re-wire my whole mind toward where I want to go when I hear playcalls and things like that.”

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...tarting-out-right-tackle-eager-get-acclimated

Again, failure to understand the basic and simple distinction between can play swing tackle and is ideally-suited to play G in the NFL which is the fundamental issue.

Let us repeat this again, can play swing tackle but ideally-suited to play G in the NFL, go figure he plays G in the NFL.

Dane lists Collins weaknesses as do others but you ignore them because they frustrate your argument, he has limited kickslide range, lack of elite arm length and has choppy footwork.

Further, claiming people are "making things up" while ignoring it in print and video is your mode of operation, nothing new there as usual.

I trust Brugler and Pauline over Rob Rang any day for analysis which does nothing to disprove their perspectives on Collins, poor attempt at best.

Name calling is a logical fallacy, my argument is valid so sophistry claims are a poor use of the term, for Collins was moved from RT to G and currently plays G in the NFL by choice of the Dallas Cowboys coaches.

The fact is Collins was moved to G after two weeks in OTA's and does not play right tackle in the NFL and considering the fact he never has outside of OTA's or limited snaps including in college handles your baseless argument alone.

This is premature miscalculation at its finest and is based on projection conjecture and wishful thinking, nothing more.

Why is he not playing RT instead right now??? Still waiting not holding my breath!

Collins has longer arms than Joe Thomas who for many years was the best LT in the NFL.

People like to point to arm length, but total wingspan is probably a better measurement. Collins has a bigger total wingspan than some other players with similar arm length.

Collins is hardly the slow plodding OLineman that your making him out to be.

The biggest issue for him in college was that they didn't pass that much and his technique/awareness in Pass Pro was not that great, but his physical ability to do it was not really a problem.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Collins has longer arms than Joe Thomas who for many years was the best LT in the NFL.

People like to point to arm length, but total wingspan is probably a better measurement. Collins has a bigger total wingspan than some other players with similar arm length.

Collins is hardly the slow plodding OLineman that your making him out to be.

The biggest issue for him in college was that they didn't pass that much and his technique/awareness in Pass Pro was not that great, but his physical ability to do it was not really a problem.

He still lacks Elite arm length regardless and I am not making him out to be a slow plodding player, just stating the obvious that he is ideally-suited to play inside at G where he has played in the NFL for the last two years.

Brugler points out limited kickslide range, lack of elite arm length, choppy footwork and issues with blitzes and multiple rushers as key weaknesses that obviously bring limitations to his game.

You can choose to deny them or simply disagree which is fine but many others see the same issues and the main thing is that the Cowboys staff moved him to G from RT in OTA's and he has never been back, that says it all.

Collins has weaknesses in his game that make him a better fit inside at the Pro level, it does not mean he can not offer position flex, it simply means he is better at one rather than the other given his strengths and weaknesses.

There is no argument here that he can't play swing tackle, for those who can make the simple distinction, he simply is ideally-suited to play inside where his only NFL team has him playing right now!

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

All the scouting reports on Collins are that he has slow feet. But if you get him in drills, his foot speed is fine. So it appears he struggles to carry that over in pass blocking, which is why he gets top-heavy and leans instead of moving his feet to stay in position. It's probably not a matter of physical ability, but it also isn't natural for him. I agree that hand placement and technique is probably some of the easiest things to pick up with reps. But the foot thing could be something he will battle his whole career.

At guard it's not as big a deal. The guy appears to be better suited for the position, which is why he should probably stay there. People talk about Crawford being a round peg in a square hole as a DE and you'd likely get the same for Collins at OT. That is, a serviceable player, but not really taking advantage of the guy's strengths and certainly not a Pro Bowl caliber guy. His strength and nastiness might be enough to make him a Pro Bowl caliber guard. I'd rather have that than a mediocre tackle.

As for Leary, the dude just wants to be paid. This is his only chance to get a potential big payday, which he's earned. Given the knee condition, I think Dallas has gotten what they need out of him - four good years (five if you consider the season he spent on the PS). I'd be leery (pun intended) to go the years and money it will probably take to sign him.

I'm not so sure he's miffed at the organization, but he could be. Jerry rolled out the red carpet for La'el and he's been the Golden Child at the expense of Leary and his playing time and he very well could hold a grudge.

 

[haleyrules]

All the scouting reports on Collins are that he has slow feet. But if you get him in drills, his foot speed is fine. So it appears he struggles to carry that over in pass blocking, which is why he gets top-heavy and leans instead of moving his feet to stay in position. It's probably not a matter of physical ability, but it also isn't natural for him. I agree that hand placement and technique is probably some of the easiest things to pick up with reps. But the foot thing could be something he will battle his whole career.

At guard it's not as big a deal. The guy appears to be better suited for the position, which is why he should probably stay there. People talk about Crawford being a round peg in a square hole as a DE and you'd likely get the same for Collins at OT. That is, a serviceable player, but not really taking advantage of the guy's strengths and certainly not a Pro Bowl caliber guy. His strength and nastiness might be enough to make him a Pro Bowl caliber guard. I'd rather have that than a mediocre tackle.

As for Leary, the dude just wants to be paid. This is his only chance to get a potential big payday, which he's earned. Given the knee condition, I think Dallas has gotten what they need out of him - four good years (five if you consider the season he spent on the PS). I'd be leery (pun intended) to go the years and money it will probably take to sign him.

I'm not so sure he's miffed at the organization, but he could be. Jerry rolled out the red carpet for La'el and he's been the Golden Child at the expense of Leary and his playing time and he very well could hold a grudge.

Interesting. Good post. I still like Leary. He has earned a place with the Cowboys.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Interesting. Good post. I still like Leary. He has earned a place with the Cowboys.

I like him, too. He's outplayed Collins at this point. I have a lot of respect for the way he handled this season, losing his job despite not having played poorly, coming into the season in the best shape of his life, not complaining and just killing it when Collins went down. The only issue is the medical. It's one of those "it's not if, but when" type of deals from what I've heard. If we didn't already have a potential young stud already on the roster, I'd want this guy resigned yesterday. I just think he's a luxury we can't afford with so many holes on D and the potential that this guy's knee wears down to the point he can't be as effective.

 

[slomoxn]

Leary is gone. There will be some team that needs him more than we do, and he doesn't sound like a guy that wants to give any sort of discount.

As well he shouldn't, they only get so many years to maximize their earning power so he should go for broke just like Murray did. Sucks but the owners aren't giving away money, they have to earn every dollar, well most do, a few players should be giving refunds.

 

[xwalker]

He still lacks Elite arm length regardless and I am not making him out to be a slow plodding player, just stating the obvious that he is ideally-suited to play inside at G where he has played in the NFL for the last two years.

Brugler points out limited kickslide range, lack of elite arm length, choppy footwork and issues with blitzes and multiple rushers as key weaknesses that obviously bring limitations to his game.

You can choose to deny them or simply disagree which is fine but many others see the same issues and the main thing is that the Cowboys staff moved him to G from RT in OTA's and he has never been back, that says it all.

Collins has weaknesses in his game that make him a better fit inside at the Pro level, it does not mean he can not offer position flex, it simply means he is better at one rather than the other given his strengths and weaknesses.

There is no argument here that he can't play swing tackle, for those who can make the simple distinction, he simply is ideally-suited to play inside where his only NFL team has him playing right now!

It's not that simple.

Regardless of whether he is better at OG or not relative to RT is not the point.

The issue is which of the following is best:
RT Collins
LG Leary

RT Free
LG Collins

You're cherry picking draft reports. There were draft analysts that thought he would play OT in the NFL. IIRC Bob Sturm thought he was the best OL in that draft at OT or OG.

Larry Allen made the Pro Bowl at OT but was better at Guard. If the Cowboys would have had to choose between Free and LA at OT back then, then LA would have stayed at OT.

It likely won't matter because Garrett is buddies with Free and the Cowboys will convince themselves that Green will stay healthy.

 

[Rogerthat12]

It's not that simple.

Regardless of whether he is better at OG or not relative to RT is not the point.

The issue is which of the following is best:
RT Collins
LG Leary

RT Free
LG Collins

You're cherry picking draft reports. There were draft analysts that thought he would play OT in the NFL. IIRC Bob Sturm thought he was the best OL in that draft at OT or OG.

Larry Allen made the Pro Bowl at OT but was better at Guard. If the Cowboys would have had to choose between Free and LA at OT back then, then LA would have stayed at OT.

It likely won't matter because Garrett is buddies with Free and the Cowboys will convince themselves that Green will stay healthy.

The problem with your comment is "Regardless of whether he is better at OG or not relative to RT is not the point.", that is my only point.

I think Brugler is one of the best evaluator's in the business and Pauline even agrees with this fact, other draft reports bring up these similar issues as well in his weaknesses.

Leary is probably gone in FA and the rest is simply conjecture that you have no evidence or basis of which to argue other than projection conjecture.

The fact that Collins was moved to G by the Cowboys staff within two weeks at RT and that he has flourished at G ever since really answers the question.

He was also rotating at G in between RT duties and obviously they were evaluating what he was better at accordingly.

I would rather draft a RT that is ideally-suited to play RT rather than move an ideally-suited G because I do not like Doug Free.

 

[Floatyworm]

Sorry but Collins only played RT at OTA's for 2 weeks and was moved to G after he struggled with footwork and technique, he did not play RT at training camp!

You have no idea what Collins will be at RT but we all know what he is at LG!

Dallas can draft a better suited player to play RT, no need to ideologically try to force Collins at the position which he has not played in college or the NFL!

Actually Collins played RT @ LSU when he and Trai Turner were dominate together....then he move to LT for his Jr year. I thought his best position was RT. Kid was just a bulldog of a run blocker.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Actually Collins played RT @ LSU when he and Trai Turner were dominate together....then he move to LT for his Jr year. I thought his best position was RT. Kid was just a bulldog of a run blocker.

Incorrect, he played as a sophomore at OG for 13 games and then moved to Left tackle for his jr and sr years. Collins earned immediate playing time for the Tigers as a true freshman, playing in seven games at left guard.

He only played G and Left Tackle!

Named second-team All-America by The A.P. as a senior in 2014. Won Jacobs Blocking Trophy as the top offensive lineman in the SEC. Started all 13 games at left guard as a sophomore, then started 26 games at left tackle his junior and senior seasons. Was voted team captain and was recipient of the Charles McClendon Award (most outstanding player on the team). LSU coaching staff credited him with 222.5 knockdown blocks in his 45-game career. Was second-team All-SEC as a junior, honorable mention All-SEC.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/lael-collins?id=2552361

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Common sense dictates when Collins himself and reporters said Collins had adjustements, struggles with ups and downs clearly he struggled at the position.

It is not rocket science that when asked Collins indicated he was adjusting and struggling with "everything".

Garrett above states he was starting him at RT so he could get acclimated quicker but was then moved inside, why was he moved inside? Silence on your part because you have no answer that supports your baseless argument.

Broaddus, who was at the OTA's has indicated Collins struggled with footwork on their shows, he is a former pro scout, were you there?

The very fact that he was moved inside and flourished inside while currently playing the actual position exclusively now refutes your perspective alone.

You have nothing as usual, the "stance" comment by Collins himself is in the link below and quoted above, go figure you missed it accordingly, a typical strategy you employ.

“Everything -- I had to switch over from playing left pretty much my whole career to right,” he said. “So now I have to switch up my stance and really re-wire my whole mind toward where I want to go when I hear playcalls and things like that.”

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...tarting-out-right-tackle-eager-get-acclimated

Again, failure to understand the basic and simple distinction between can play swing tackle and is ideally-suited to play G in the NFL which is the fundamental issue.

Let us repeat this again, can play swing tackle but ideally-suited to play G in the NFL, go figure he plays G in the NFL.

Dane lists Collins weaknesses as do others but you ignore them because they frustrate your argument, he has limited kickslide range, lack of elite arm length and has choppy footwork.

Further, claiming people are "making things up" while ignoring it in print and video is your mode of operation, nothing new there as usual.

I trust Brugler and Pauline over Rob Rang any day for analysis which does nothing to disprove their perspectives on Collins, poor attempt at best.

Name calling is a logical fallacy, my argument is valid so sophistry claims are a poor use of the term, for Collins was moved from RT to G and currently plays G in the NFL by choice of the Dallas Cowboys coaches.

The fact is Collins was moved to G after two weeks in OTA's and does not play right tackle in the NFL and considering the fact he never has outside of OTA's or limited snaps including in college handles your baseless argument alone.

This is premature miscalculation at its finest and is based on projection conjecture and wishful thinking, nothing more.

Why is he not playing RT instead right now??? Still waiting not holding my breath!

If it was common sense you wouldn't be all by your lonesome saying it. You cannot find any quotes to corroborate your claim.

We have already discussed the entirety of what Brugler said. You gave up quoting him because he directly rejects your take as does his associate. He straight up says that when is technique is right he is more than capable.

Of course you would ignore contrary evidence and blame the source.

Again, hearsay about Broaddus is garbage particularly when he writes his common takes in articles. You still have nothing. And after two days you have been unable to support your claim. You won't admit you are wrong but it is plain to see. Just like when you wouldn't discuss the tape of his play I posted two days ago.

You are a sophist and a poor one at that. You are looking for something to support your argument and have failed to do so. If that was the core of my argument you would have a point but that is hardly the case. It is what it is: you have no credibility as you desperately seek evidence for your preferred outcome as opposed allowing the truth to reveal itself as it may.

He is not playing RT because the staff likes Free. This should not be hard.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

All the scouting reports on Collins are that he has slow feet.

Stopped reading here. No they do not and several examples have been posted in this thread.

 

[Rogerthat12]

If it was common sense you wouldn't be all by your lonesome saying it. You cannot find any quotes to corroborate your claim.

We have already discussed the entirety of what Brugler said. You gave up quoting him because he directly rejects your take as does his associate. He straight up says that when is technique is right he is more than capable.

Of course you would ignore contrary evidence and blame the source.

Again, hearsay about Broaddus is garbage particularly when he writes his common takes in articles. You still have nothing. And after two days you have been unable to support your claim. You won't admit you are wrong but it is plain to see. Just like when you wouldn't discuss the tape of his play I posted two days ago.

You are a sophist and a poor one at that. You are looking for something to support your argument and have failed to do so. If that was the core of my argument you would have a point but that is hardly the case. It is what it is: you have no credibility as you desperately seek evidence for your preferred outcome as opposed allowing the truth to reveal itself as it may.

He is not playing RT because the staff likes Free. This should not be hard.

We are done on the subject, constant argumentive ad hominem absusive logical fallacies, denial of printed materials on the subject and simple arguments from ignorance.

As always, rhetoric and accusations without conent.

 

[Floatyworm]

Incorrect, he played as a sophomore at OG for 13 games and then moved to Left tackle for his jr and sr years. Collins earned immediate playing time for the Tigers as a true freshman, playing in seven games at left guard.

He only played G and Left Tackle!

Named second-team All-America by The A.P. as a senior in 2014. Won Jacobs Blocking Trophy as the top offensive lineman in the SEC. Started all 13 games at left guard as a sophomore, then started 26 games at left tackle his junior and senior seasons. Was voted team captain and was recipient of the Charles McClendon Award (most outstanding player on the team). LSU coaching staff credited him with 222.5 knockdown blocks in his 45-game career. Was second-team All-SEC as a junior, honorable mention All-SEC.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/lael-collins?id=2552361

Not true....vs Alabama he played some RT because of injury.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Stopped reading here. No they do not and several examples have been posted in this thread.

Bury your head in the sand if you want. No skin off my back.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Bury your head in the sand if you want. No skin off my back.

If you want to be willfully ignorant then have at it.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824825/lael-collins

As a pass blocker, Collins shows good initial quickness in his kick-slide and uses his long reach to maintain the arc. When he gets his hands on opponents and remains square, it is generally lights out for the defender. Collins showed his willingness to potentially convert inside, impressing on a few snaps at left guard at the Senior Bowl.

Quite frankly speaking in absolutes when it comes to opinion is pretty ignorant. It is oh so easy to demonstrate false.