Can Tony Improve?

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I would like to see him reduce the turnovers without losing his creative edge. but other then that he is pretty damn good right now.

Of course with more studying the better knowledge he will get. By the end of next year 2009, he will be a consensus top 3 QB in the NFL, I have no doubts
 

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theogt;2082654 said:
Perhaps it's the Kurt Warner shoe. Seems unrealistic that he'd go from UDFA to a top 5 QB so quickly.

Anyway, that is beside the point. I just wonder what, in his game, he can improve on.

I don't think sitting on the bench for 3+ years before seeing any playing time at QB as quickly.

Romo has room for improvement. There are a few things he can do better. Namely to cut down on his Quincy Carter plays or impulse plays. Those lead to interceptions. Second is when a play breaks down he tends to hang on to the ball too long and too carelessly. That leads to sacks and fumbles.

Kurt Warner had a thumb injury that stayed around for a while. He also got Bledsoe like gun shy. He would hang on to the ball way too long waiting for the big play instead of just getting rid of the ball.

Romo can improve and hopefully he does improve. Same with several players on the team.
 

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joseephuss;2082993 said:
I don't think sitting on the bench for 3+ years before seeing any playing time at QB as quickly.

Romo has room for improvement. There are a few things he can do better. Namely to cut down on his Quincy Carter plays or impulse plays. Those lead to interceptions. Second is when a play breaks down he tends to hang on to the ball too long and too carelessly. That leads to sacks and fumbles.

Kurt Warner had a thumb injury that stayed around for a while. He also got Bledsoe like gun shy. He would hang on to the ball way too long waiting for the big play instead of just getting rid of the ball.

Romo can improve and hopefully he does improve. Same with several players on the team.

As long as he does not lose his ability to improvise on the move. Yes it can cause a turnover but how many times did we see Romo come up with the big play on a busted play. The Rams game when the ball was snapped over his head the majority of QB would have fallen on the ball and took the big loss or in the Miami game when he made the big pass as he was being dragged to the ground. No doubt he has to be careful but I don’t want to see him lose the gun slinger mentality completely
 

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theogt;2082635 said:
Just think, this will only be his second full season as a starter. Can he continue to improve?

I just keep waiting for that other shoe to drop with Tony.

I admit it -- I do, too.

Not that he's suddenly going turn into a pumpkin and be horrible overnight. He's established that he's a pretty good player. But I'm concerned that the things Parcells worried about -- the interceptions, the poor ball security, the celebrity quarterback -- are going to catch up to him.

I know it isn't popular to say, but I don't care: I don't like the celebrity QB act one bit. I don't see how you can fly all over the country and party everywhere you go and at the same time keep your conditioning up, your weight down, and your mind right. I see people saying, "He's a kid, let him live his life", but he's not just a kid. He's a 27-year-old professional who just got a 65 million dollar contract and is the leader of one of the 32 most exclusive organizations in the world. Think about the aspiring executive who works around the clock to advance. Or the Olympic athlete who trains religiously and won't even have a beer in preparation for an event years from now. That's the kind of dedication I want to see... Not some Joe Namath wannabe.

Tony used to have that ultra-dedicated attitude. I just hope he still does. If he does, there's no reason he can't continue to improve. If he doesn't, he's going to find out how quickly you can turn from a hero to a goat in this town. Just ask Roy Williams.
 

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Doomsday101;2083021 said:
As long as he does not lose his ability to improvise on the move. Yes it can cause a turnover but how many times did we see Romo come up with the big play on a busted play. The Rams game when the ball was snapped over his head the majority of QB would have fallen on the ball and took the big loss or in the Miami game when he made the big pass as he was being dragged to the ground. No doubt he has to be careful but I don’t want to see him lose the gun slinger mentality completely

I don't think he has to give up the gunslinger mentality to be more careful with the ball. He can still improvise and hold the ball higher and closer to his body instead of out away from him.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2083031 said:
I admit it -- I do, too.

Not that he's suddenly going turn into a pumpkin and be horrible overnight. He's established that he's a pretty good player. But I'm concerned that the things Parcells worried about -- the interceptions, the poor ball security, the celebrity quarterback -- are going to catch up to him.

I know it isn't popular to say, but I don't care: I don't like the celebrity QB act one bit. I don't see how you can fly all over the country and party everywhere you go and at the same time keep your conditioning up, your weight down, and your mind right. I see people saying, "He's a kid, let him live his life", but he's not just a kid. He's a 27-year-old professional who just got a 65 million dollar contract and is the leader of one of the 32 most exclusive organizations in the world. Think about the aspiring executive who works around the clock to advance. Or the Olympic athlete who trains religiously and won't even have a beer in preparation for an event years from now. That's the kind of dedication I want to see... Not some Joe Namath wannabe.

Tony used to have that ultra-dedicated attitude. I just hope he still does. If he does, there's no reason he can't continue to improve. If he doesn't, he's going to find out how quickly you can turn from a hero to a goat in this town. Just ask Roy Williams.

Aikman was a pretty good celebrity as well. He cut his own country album, appeared on TV shows like Coach was dating a Lorrie Morgan. Troy has 3 SB rings and I'm sure if Romo wins a championship his life will be a non issue as well.
 

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joseephuss;2083038 said:
I don't think he has to give up the gunslinger mentality to be more careful with the ball. He can still improvise and hold the ball higher and closer to his body instead of out away from him.

I agree, although that can be a fine line to walk. I do think as he gains more experience he will cut down on some of the mistakes. Considering the passing records he broke last year and who the guys where holding those records I think Romo future is looking very bright.
 
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Yeah, I wish that Tom Brady would stop posing for GQ, dating Gisele, and spending all his time in New York City. Clearly it has taken away from his ability to win.
 

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Hostile;2082886 said:
The double standard about Mexico is big in my mind with Tony's frame of mind. He is still having fun on the field. He's not joking with reporters any more and he should be. Jumping in your golf cart and saying this interview is over when they ask you about singing at Wrigley isn't taking the stress off of him. He's letting it get to him and he shouldn't. Early on he could laugh off anything that the media brought up. Lately he hasn't been and he's so uptight about it that the team lectures a rookie about a totally harmless comment.

but hos, isnt that exactly the point.

criticism and scrutiny these days comes with the territory, even more so if u are the QB of America's team. if you can have these things (criticism, scrutiny etc) bounce right off you without it affecting your personality and your play, then do it. if, on the other hand, this will cause you to brood and be moody and affect your play, then dont do it. is it "fair"? probably not but that is life.

i think this is what we are talking about when we say "he needs to mature" and to be a leader. i always say that the best way to overcome one's limitations (and everyone has them) is know what they are so that one can compensate for them. ignoring one's limitations will not serve any purpose in the long run.

just my .02
 

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visionary;2083049 said:
but hos, isnt that exactly the point.

criticism and scrutiny these days comes with the territory, even more so if u are the QB of America's team. if you can have these things (criticism, scrutiny etc) bounce right off you without it affecting your personality and your play, then do it. if, on the other hand, this will cause you to brood and be moody and affect your play, then dont do it. is it "fair"? probably not but that is life.

i think this is what we are talking about when we say "he needs to mature" and to be a leader. i always say that the best way to overcome one's limitations (and everyone has them) is know what they are so that one can compensate for them. ignoring one's limitations will not serve any purpose in the long run.

just my .02

I think Romo has leadership qualities heck he has managed to do what 2 other QB's could not do and that is work with TO. :laugh2:
 

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Doomsday101;2083053 said:
I think Romo has leadership qualities heck he has managed to do what 2 other QB's could not do and that is work with TO. :laugh2:

i agree wholeheartedly, this is not a "bash romo" thread and not a question of "is he a leader". that is a given, he is a leader. the question in this thread is "can he improve" and in my opinion he can.

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visionary;2083049 said:
but hos, isnt that exactly the point.

criticism and scrutiny these days comes with the territory, even more so if u are the QB of America's team. if you can have these things (criticism, scrutiny etc) bounce right off you without it affecting your personality and your play, then do it. if, on the other hand, this will cause you to brood and be moody and affect your play, then dont do it. is it "fair"? probably not but that is life.

i think this is what we are talking about when we say "he needs to mature" and to be a leader. i always say that the best way to overcome one's limitations (and everyone has them) is know what they are so that one can compensate for them. ignoring one's limitations will not serve any purpose in the long run.

just my .02
That's what I am saying. As his star began to shine reporters asked him stuff and he laughed it off. No matter what they brought up, he could turn it into a joke. They lapped it up.

Now, when they ask stuff he is being evasive. So how are they reacting? Like there's chum in the water.
 

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visionary;2083056 said:
i agree wholeheartedly, this is not a "bash romo" thread and not a question of "is he a leader". that is a given, he is a leader. the question in this thread is "can he improve" and in my opinion he can.

:)

As I said I think with experience he will only get better. Romo enjoys playing the game and has fun with it and hopefully that does not change because that is what makes him the player he is and that is not bad considering he is holding several passing records after 1 full season on a team that has seen its share of great QB's
 

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Hostile;2083057 said:
That's what I am saying. As his star began to shine reporters asked him stuff and he laughed it off. No matter what they brought up, he could turn it into a joke. They lapped it up.

Now, when they ask stuff he is being evasive. So how are they reacting? Like there's chum in the water.

exactly
 

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Hostile;2083057 said:
That's what I am saying. As his star began to shine reporters asked him stuff and he laughed it off. No matter what they brought up, he could turn it into a joke. They lapped it up.

Now, when they ask stuff he is being evasive. So how are they reacting? Like there's chum in the water.

I think a big difference is that he's getting near constant media pressure on him now -- this is far more than normal Dallas Cowboys QB coverage. He's dating a superstar and the media coverage is far far more intense. Tony has a great personality for dealing with the media but he's just getting flat out hounded now. So we are going to see him cracking a little.
 

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Joshmvii;2083048 said:
Yeah, I wish that Tom Brady would stop posing for GQ, dating Gisele, and spending all his time in New York City. Clearly it has taken away from his ability to win.

When Tony wins three SBs like Brady, he can knock himself out.

Same for the Troy example.

I'm not saying Romo has to be a monk. The golf, that's fine, even good -- perfect example of a healthy hobby. He can party in Dallas and have all the hotties he wants. It's the celebrity part and flying all over the country I don't like. That's one thing Parcells got right, IMO.
 

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visionary;2083064 said:
Once he gets back to that, and I admit it may be hard given the scrutiny, the glare will ease up and the tension will ease.

From the time they dubbed her Yoko Romo he has been surly and evasive and it doesn't fit the way he plays or projects. If they (meaning the media) sense something is wrong, all they will do is press harder. I know he wants them to back off. They won't. The only thing that will back them off is if he simply refuses ot let it get to him in any way.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2083071 said:
When Tony wins three SBs like Brady, he can knock himself out.

Same for the Troy example.

I'm not saying Romo has to be a monk. The golf, that's fine, even good -- perfect example of a healthy hobby. He can party in Dallas and have all the hotties he wants. It's the celebrity part and flying all over the country I don't like. That's one thing Parcells got right, IMO.
Sex with a big breasted blonde isn't healthy?

Dang it, now I suddenly feel all sick.
 

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abersonc;2083070 said:
I think a big difference is that he's getting near constant media pressure on him now -- this is far more than normal Dallas Cowboys QB coverage. He's dating a superstar and the media coverage is far far more intense. Tony has a great personality for dealing with the media but he's just getting flat out hounded now. So we are going to see him cracking a little.
He doesn't have to though. That choice is his. I think he should turn on the ham even more.
 

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big dog cowboy;2082777 said:
I would sure like to think Tony can improve. He only has around what maybe 40 starts or so?
28 starts. Not even two full seasons.
 
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