Can we really cheer for a high draft pick?

PA Cowboy Fan said:
I actually deserve that because I wanted the Cowboys to draft JFF. lol I was wrong.
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You still may get to live that dream. All Cleveland has to do is cooperate.

Should be interesting now McCown has a broken collarbone of his own and Austin Davis nearly pulled the game out last night.
 
cheftjpeck said:
Who is the draft pick we are cheering and losing out for? Any guarantees that because he is a top 5 pick he is a guaranteed franchise player ?
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There are never guarantees, but we see time and time again that teams that build up from a crappy franchise into a good franchise do it thru draft pick(s) that they got by drafting high up in the draft.

I will cheer for a higher draft pick because of that. I think Paxton Lynch is the guy we will want. Things might change and that could change my mind, but I think if we are able to get Lynch, he's a special player because he can do things that no other QB has ever been able to do at his size. And that will enable us to have a future franchise QB when Romo is gone and give us a quality backup in the meantime.







YR
 
I've only cheered once for a high draft pick and that was in 1988 knowing it would take the #1 overall pick to land Troy Aikman. Since then I've never cheered for a high pick when the Cowboys were done because a high draft pick doesn't guarantee a good player. The draft is too much of a crapshoot to be hoping for a high pick especially when some excellent players have been drafted well into the first round. The Cowboys were burned with the 6th overall pick by Mo Claiborne a few years ago.

Clowney who everyone drooled over 2 years ago has missed more games than he's played for the Texans due to injury. Some of the better players the Cowboys have drafted the past few years were taken well after the top 10. Would rather win some games and feel better about the future than lose week after week because one player isn't going to change the situation much if the Cowboys end up only winning a few games this season.
 
I'm not "cheering" for one but I know where we are headed. No point in trying to fool myself.
 
KJJ said:
I've only cheered once for a high draft pick and that was in 1988 knowing it would take the #1 overall pick to land Troy Aikman. Since then I've never cheered for a high pick when the Cowboys were done because a high draft pick doesn't guarantee a good player. The draft is too much of a crapshoot to be hoping for a high pick especially when some excellent players have been drafted well into the first round. The Cowboys were burned with the 6th overall pick by Mo Claiborne a few years ago.

Clowney who everyone drooled over 2 years ago has missed more games than he's played for the Texans due to injury. Some of the better players the Cowboys have drafted the past few years were taken well after the top 10. Would rather win some games and feel better about the future than lose week after week because one player isn't going to change the situation much if the Cowboys end up only winning a few games this season.
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I cheered for us to lose in 1988 too. I sort of felt bad about it as it turned out to be Coach Landry's final games. But in the end it was worth it.
 
Risen Star said:
What's so hard about rooting for a higher draft pick? If you understand the game at all you know why it's so much more important than a win in a wasted season.

I don't struggle with it.
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We are 2 games back from WAS and we play them twice. I want to win both games.

If we lose and get a better pick so be it.

There is no wrong answer here, it's just personal preference.

I still think there should be a Draft Lottery like the NBA. Openly tanking should not be rewarded.
 
I would really like to see Cassel win some games to at least know we have a QB on the roster other than Romo who can win some games. At least if Cassel can win some games we might start feeling better about him as the backup in the event we can't come up with a better option than him next season. Romo has missed games the past 3 seasons so if the Cowboys don't want to end up like this every year it's important Cassel or Kellen Moore can show they can win games.
 
cheftjpeck said:
Oh please explain it to me .. Please tell me how great top 5 picks like Ronnie brown, Alex smith , jemarcus Russel , Cadillac Williams , Ryan leaf, Blair Thomas , RG3; Sam Bradford ; Justin Blackmon ; Trent Richardson ; etc etc
How did they help their teams being top tier picks
I get it .. Better draft pick "SHOULD" equate to a better choice of better "RATED" players .. More flexibility . Draft movement and value ... Yadda yadda yadda

It does not guarantee that we will be a better team or guaranteed better players .. The draft works ... Sure it does if you have confidence they will draft the right players as well as that those players don't become busts .. No guarantees no matter how you slice it

I would rather root for my team to win games and be ready if they disappoint as they have most of the season .. But I won't cheer for them to lose and believe that will make us better in 2016 ., just doesn't make sense
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4 of their last 5 first round picks are All Pro's
 
Yakuza Rich said:
There are never guarantees, but we see time and time again that teams that build up from a crappy franchise into a good franchise do it thru draft pick(s) that they got by drafting high up in the draft.

I will cheer for a higher draft pick because of that. I think Paxton Lynch is the guy we will want. Things might change and that could change my mind, but I think if we are able to get Lynch, he's a special player because he can do things that no other QB has ever been able to do at his size. And that will enable us to have a future franchise QB when Romo is gone and give us a quality backup in the meantime.







YR
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Thank you YR!!!! That's all I was trying to find out and point out.. No guarantees
I fully understand we have a better chance getting a better caliber player with a higher draft pick however some are acting like its a done deal .. Tank the year and we are guaranteed to get better with a better pick .. I am simply pointing out the flaw in that logic that sure we stand a better chance but we are not guarantee it..
Paxton Lynch would be a good choice .. Not sure if he still might not be available further down the draft but he wouldn't be a bad choice as it stands now

Thx again
 
PA Cowboy Fan said:
I cheered for us to lose in 1988 too. I sort of felt bad about it as it turned out to be Coach Landry's final games. But in the end it was worth it.
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It was the last few games of the 88 season when I started pulling for the Cowboys to continue to lose because I knew it was for the best in the long run. Not every year do you have a QB of Aikman's caliber come out and we couldn't afford to miss out on him. Had the Cowboys missed out on him they very likely could have ended up with Jeff George the following year despite taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft in 89.
 
If by rooting for a higher draft pick means to root for a loss, that absolutely disgust me has a fan. I have watched just about every game that I could watch since 1974 of this team, some years were great, others, not so great but never, not one time I have rooted for the cowboys to lose a game. I don't understand that type of thinking. If you are all in on losing, then why be mad at Garrett or Jones, hell they are just doing what you want. Keep them around, maybe you will get that high draft pick every year so you will be happy. I will be there on Sunday Or in this case Monday, rooting as hard as I can that the Boys win, every single time. And when they do it will be a double good feeling, they won and knowing they pissed off all you "i want to lose" fans.
 
cheftjpeck said:
Thank you YR!!!! That's all I was trying to find out and point out.. No guarantees
I fully understand we have a better chance getting a better caliber player with a higher draft pick however some are acting like its a done deal .. Tank the year and we are guaranteed to get better with a better pick .. I am simply pointing out the flaw in that logic that sure we stand a better chance but we are not guarantee it..
Paxton Lynch would be a good choice .. Not sure if he still might not be available further down the draft but he wouldn't be a bad choice as it stands now

Thx again
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You responded to someone saying "it can only help" with something about guarantees. You went out of your way to misunderstand what was being said.
 
stasheroo said:
Or Aaron Rodgers.
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Hmm wait he wasn't a top 5 pick .. He was way down at 24...?
Kinda defies some folks logic of guaranteed top 5 picks = franchise

Thx Stash !!!


No use arguing with the others

Agree to disagree with those who root for losing out to get better

We might and probably will anyways .. So the point is moot... But I won't be cheering it on ...
 
Sadly, our season is going nowhere this year. Statistically still alive be damned. I'm all about building for the greater long-term good of the team than getting a win, two or three that mean nothing during what's left of this accursed season.

I have no doubt the team will play their hearts out, as they should; but silently, my eye is on getting hold of the best possible draft pick we can acquire to rebuild this team for the future. We have a serious need at the skill positions and a need for quality depth as well.

Injuries set the tone for this bust of a season. I would like something good to come out of that so pencil me in for accepting the future losses with a sly smile on my face.
 
When you're 3-8 it's hard to "cheer" for anything. Nothing can replace making the playoffs. Having your season end the first week in Jan makes the offseason even longer.
 
Craig said:
You responded to someone saying "it can only help" with something about guarantees. You went out of your way to misunderstand what was being said.
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Sorry sir, respectfully , you are wrong ...
YR addressed my original post
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Who is the draft pick we are cheering and losing out for? Any guarantees that because he is a top 5 pick he is a guaranteed franchise player ?
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