Can we really go into the season with two change of pace backs as our top two runningbacks

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You don’t need a massive bruiser type back. Short yardage running is more about leverage and using explosive power from the legs.

In short yardage situations low man wins. You don’t need some massive bodybuilder looking guy.

I ain’t worried about it.
 

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We need a grinder to get the tough yards and goalline carries. I love Duece and Pollard but they are smaller backs. Can we give Luepke some more opportunities to see what we have.
I was thinking the same thing. All our RB's are 3rd down type backs. Speed backs.
 

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Zeke was 225
Pollard is 218
Dowdle is 218
Davis is 205
RJ is 210

We have backs with size. Pollard has no issue running between the tackles. Same for Dowdle and Davis. Are they Henry type power backs, no. But between the three of them, we have guys who can pick up tough yards.

I dont think Luepke makes it. PS.
Same for Duece.
Did you watch the preseason game?
 

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Dowdle is 218. Pollard is 218. They are the exact same size. Not sure why everybody thinks Pollard is small. Hes probably right up there size wise with other starting backs across the league.
It's about build, not weight. Pollard may be too lightly built to take a full load.
 

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Your assessment is predicated that all teams play the same and results are the same. Therefore players are merely plug and play. If for no other reason seeing the four year debate on Dal alone should tell you this theory of yours is flawed. If all teams did exactly the same then the results would be the same and there would be 32 Super Bowl winners each year.

Your proof is flawed. Not all results are the same.
Do all teams need one? No. So like I said, you don't need one.

Teams that want to rely on that type of player aren't serious contenders. None of the good teams have one. Dallas is right not to prioritize that kind of player differently than the other premiere teams in the league.
 

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I think there's enough here with Pollard, Dowdle, Jones, Vaughn, Davis and Luepke. I at least think they deserve the opportunity besides playing with backups. Not just gonna jump the gun that they suck and start reaching for any vet who would likely not look very good in that same scenario with the caliber of linemen on the field. That 3rd game with the starters will be a much better gauge on the situation.
We’re not going know until the season starts if there’s enough here. We won’t be playing any starters in the third preseason game. That final preseason game is for bubble players. No way are the Cowboys going to risk injuring a starter in that last preseason game. Everyone but Pollard is unproven. Hopefully we don’t run into the same problem we ran into during the 2015 season. Everyone thought the combination of Darren McFadden and Joseph Randle would be enough and it didn’t work out. If we struggle to run the ball this season and pound it into the endzone from up close it’s going to put more pressure on Dak.
 

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Do all teams need one? No. So like I said, you don't need one.

Teams that want to rely on that type of player aren't serious contenders. None of the good teams have one. Dallas is right not to prioritize that kind of player differently than the other premiere teams in the league.
Blanket statements like this are silly.

Cincy: Mixon is a chain mover.
 

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We’re not going know until the season starts if there’s enough here. We won’t be playing any starters in the third preseason game. That final preseason game is for bubble players. No way are the Cowboys going to risk injuring a starter in that last preseason game. Everyone but Pollard is unproven. Hopefully we don’t run into the same problem we ran into during the 2015 season. Everyone thought the combination of Darren McFadden and Joseph Randle would be enough and it didn’t work out. If we struggle to run the ball this season and pound it into the endzone from up close it’s going to put more pressure on Dak.

2015 the QB went down and the coach was garbage and McFadden still had 1000 yards. Game 2 should be a dress rehearsal then at least for 2 or 3 series. They have to do better on the line if evaluating the RBs is a priority.
 

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2015 the QB went down and the coach was garbage and McFadden still had 1000 yards. Game 2 should be a dress rehearsal then at least for 2 or 3 series. They have to do better on the line if evaluating the RBs is a priority.
A big part of the reason our QB went down was because we didn’t have a running game and he was having to do too much. Go look at our rushing stats prior to Romo‘s injury in 2015.
 

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A big part of the reason our QB went down was because we didn’t have a running game and he was having to do too much. Go look at our rushing stats prior to Romo‘s injury in 2015.

He went down in week 2 and they proceeded to lose 7 in a row after that. Then he came back in week 11 with a W and went down again in week 12. The combination of Brandon Weeden, Matt Cassel and Kellen Moore was an even bigger problem than the RB situation. The rest of the team stunk. Certainly ran deeper than what was happening at one position. Nothing about today's team compares to 2015.
 

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He went down in week 2 and they proceeded to lose 7 in a row after that. Then he came back in week 11 with a W and went down again in week 12. The combination of Brandon Weeden, Matt Cassel and Kellen Moore was an even bigger problem than the RB situation. The rest of the team stunk. Certainly ran deeper than what was happening at one position. Nothing about today's team compares to 2015.
He went down in week two because he was having to put the ball up a lot more than he did the previous season. Romo only had one game in 2014 where he attempted 40+ passes. In 2015 he attempted 45 passes in the season opener. He was having to carry the offense, which is something he never had to do the previous season. In week two when he was injured, he was on pace for another 40+ attempt game. Neither McFadden or Randle were averaging 4 yards a carry the first two weeks.
 

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Zeke was 225
Pollard is 218
Dowdle is 218
Davis is 205
RJ is 210

We have backs with size. Pollard has no issue running between the tackles. Same for Dowdle and Davis. Are they Henry type power backs, no. But between the three of them, we have guys who can pick up tough yards.

I dont think Luepke makes it. PS.
Same for Duece.

I dont know if any of those guys run tough. Dowdle and Davis haven't been able to distinguish themselves. Davis should've been in that playoff game, but his attitude kept him on the bench. I honestly don't understand why you keep him around after that. If they didn't trust him them how can they ever? I believe Dowdle has been hurt, but I'm not sure.

If it's just a banger you might be right in any case.

We need more than that though. We need a true back up who can start a few games in a pinch. I'm not comfortable with any of these guys being starters for multiple games. Why we didn't draft a true workhorse in the middle rounds is beyond me, but they should be signing a solid vet. Hunt would've been a nice addition.

Edit: I ignored RJ, but what little hope I've had for him has been shot with his suspension and being dinged up.
 

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He went down in week two because he was having to put the ball up a lot more than he did the previous season. Romo only had one game in 2014 where he attempted 40+ passes. In 2015 he attempted 45 passes in the season opener. He was having to carry the offense, which is something he never had to do the previous season. In week two when he was injured, he was on pace for another 40+ attempt game. Neither McFadden or Randle were averaging 4 yards a carry the first two weeks.


You just summed up Romos entire career. Basically a team that went as he went, even in Murrays 1 good year.. Under Jason Garrett his RBs weren't lighting up the scoreboard. They were a terrible scoring football team at the RB position for the majority of it. The QB won or they didn't win at all 98% of the time. It certainly was nothing like when our RB used to win football games back in the day. Yards aren't the be all end all and that changed when Elliott got to town. Like 2011 Tony Romo had the only rushing TD in the last 5 games of the year. Not a single score from the RBs through the final month and people blame the QB for going 8-8. lol Murray Jones, Choice.. garbage.
 

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You just summed up Romos entire career. Basically a team that went as he went, even in Murrays 1 good year.. Under Jason Garrett his RBs weren't lighting up the scoreboard. They were a terrible scoring football team at the RB position for the majority of it. The QB won or they didn't win at all 98% of the time. It certainly was nothing like when our RB used to win football games back in the day. Yards aren't the be all end all and that changed when Elliott got to town. Like 2011 Tony Romo had the only rushing TD in the last 5 games of the year. Not a single score from the RBs through the final month and people blame the QB for going 8-8. lol Murray Jones, Choice.. garbage.
Not sure what you’re talking about, because the one great year DeMarco Murray had in 2014 he put up over 1800 yards and 13 TDs. Romo had a career low in passing yards and attempts in which he played a full season, because we had such a great running game. The following year without Murray we had close to 700 fewer rushing yards and 10 fewer rushing TDs. This put all the pressure on Romo, which played a significant role in his injuries that season.
 

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Not sure what you’re talking about, because the one great year DeMarco Murray had in 2014 he put up over 1800 yards and 13 TDs. Romo had a career low in passing yards and attempts in which he played a full season, because we had such a great running game. The following year without Murray we had close to 700 fewer rushing yards and 10 fewer rushing TDs. This put all the pressure on Romo, which played a significant role in his injuries that season.


He had the exact pressure the 7 seasons prior to that. 14 was an anomaly. 15 was back to the usual.
 
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