Cardinals Turn down Commanders trade offer for boldin.

[iceberg]

As much as I hate taking up for the skins, I don't blame them for attempting to get rid of that 1st rounder. They obviously want another WR and the value/talent isn't there 21.

kinda why we're looking, isn't it?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The over/under for Jason Campbell's remaining number of starts for the Commanders is currently at 23.5.

The guy is nothing more than Quincy Carter v2.0

I will take the under.


I coined - "Quincy v2.0" :laugh2:

 

[The30YardSlant]

Yessir masta, Isa surely will!

Wade in the water...

 

[firehawk350]

The ability to point out typing errors does not make one intelligent. This is evidenced by your choice of NFL fandom

Except that yours wasn't just a typo. Your ability to construct complete sentences is not there. IF you want to call Commander fans illiterate, as you have done (unless my jab at your inclusion of that term is ironically correct, and you mean the skins are organized, well-trained and literate), you better make sure you are at least somewhat coherent in the next sentence!

I fail english, that unpossible!

 

[Aven8]

According to Mort, the Cardinals rejected a trade from the Eagirls too! HAHA

What will be hilarious is if we really do get RW on draft day, and Philly and Skins are sitting there with there thumbs up there butts!!!

 

[ajk23az]

Except that yours wasn't just a typo. Your ability to construct complete sentences is not there. IF you want to call Commander fans illiterate, as you have done (unless my jab at your inclusion of that term is ironically correct, and you mean the skins are organized, well-trained and literate), you better make sure you are at least somewhat coherent in the next sentence!

I fail english, that unpossible!

Who FREAKIN cares about grammar! My gosh! Give it up! You aren't getting ANYWHERE. GEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ.

 

[iceberg]

Not trying to support Danny Bonaparte at all but he may be playing a smart game here.

Maybe he's making offers that he knows are going to be refused just to drive up the price the Eagles or Cowboys would have to pay to get a WR. The price for Roy Williams just doubled, making the chances of a division rival improving themselves go down considerably.

the trouble is, i don't see snyder as that smart. is that what is happening?

sure.

i have no faith that's what he meant to do, however. i think he's just looking for the biggest name he can get with his picks cause that's what he always does. there's no bigger member of the SOS club (shiney object syndrome) among NFL owners than snyder. where jones grew up, snyder gets more stubborn.

so we now look to hardy, sweed and the like at 28 or trade down and get an RB higher up and extra picks and hope stanback can take a step up and glenn can help us out this year.

while this may kill the roy williams dream this year, isn't he a UFA next year and can go where he wants barring franchising him?

 

[The30YardSlant]

What's ironic that you don't know how to correctly use the term "ironic"

 

[firehawk350]

Thinking before posting is the number 1 cause of not looking like an idiot and making stupid jokes that don't make any sense.

Link anytime.

In case you can't read, I'm not going to find the posts given the exorbinent amount of time required. I can care less about your thought of me, and chocolab (yes abbreviated, sue me) proved my point. My point, for clarification, is teams will trade better than #22 for Roy Williams and he will, in all likelihood, sign an extension. So this crap about him being in Dallas for one of your first rounders because he wants to play in Dallas is crap.

 

[iceberg]

BUT BUT BUT, Roy Williams WANTS to play in Dallas... That has to count for something, right??? Right???

...

Bueller?

sure it does, just not when he has no power to do so. next year when he's a FA and detroit can't afford to tag him, wanting to be in dallas will carry some weight, if he really wants to.

 

[superpunk]

In case you can't read, I'm not going to find the posts given the exorbinent amount of time required. I can care less about your thought of me, and chocolab (yes abbreviated, sue me) proved my point. My point, for clarification, is teams will trade better than #22 for Roy Williams and he will, in all likelihood, sign an extension. So this crap about him being in Dallas for one of your first rounders because he wants to play in Dallas is crap.

I'm still waiting to see where anyone claimed that the Lions would trade him to Dallas for a lower price just because he wants to play here. ChololateLab said nothing of the sort.

Use advanced search. It should be easy, since it's clearly something that stuck in your head so clearly.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/search.php?f=59

Knock yourself out.

 

[iceberg]

That's exactly what I'm saying... Clearly, other teams are interested in trading and all the teams know he'll sign a fair market extension no matter where he wants to play. Yet, some Cowboy fans (chocolab) delude themselves into thinking otherwise and then think that's why they are the only ones in the Roy Williams chase.

you're making it sound like it's so simple when in fact, it really is.

if roy can make $50mil with the cowboys or $50mil with the Commanders in a simliar deal, what's the deal-seal? he wants to be a cowboy. money the same. greater since we don't have a state income tax, and he'd be a cowboy.

now if we only offered $35mil and the skins offered that $50mil still then yes it's delusional to think anyone would give up $15mil (barring funny contract stuff and playing hide the payroll) to play for a favorite team.

you're making an argument where one doesn't exist, dude.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

In case you can't read, I'm not going to find the posts given the exorbinent amount of time required. I can care less about your thought of me, and chocolab (yes abbreviated, sue me)

Abbreviated.. yet you used more characters than if you spelled out the entire username?

You are batting a 1000

 

[iceberg]

BUT BUT BUT, Roy Williams WANTS to play in Dallas... That has to count for something, right??? Right???

...

Bueller?

What does that have to do with the Lions being willing to trade him?

The Cowboys want Roy Williams, and Roy Williams wants to play in Dallas, so many Zoners, after hearing about Philly's and Washington's purported interest used the argument, "but Roy Williams WANTS to play in Dallas" as a reason why, despite an inferior offer (supposed) he would end up a Cowboy anyways. This argument continues to state that Roy Williams would refuse to sign a multi-million dollar extension with the trading team and sit out because he likes Dallas better.

This was a joke on those posters who think that the Lions really care about where Roy Williams wants to go. In conclusion, the price has been set (1st and a pick in the first three rounds next year) and just because Roy Williams wants something, doesn't mean it's going to happen.

I expect there were few (if any) Cowboys fans that used that reasoning in a trade scenario. More than likely, they were using it as a reason why he might be apt to sign here once his contract is up next season.

You can feel free to show me where all this "trade Roy Williams to Dallas because he wants it" nonsense went on, but I have a feeling you won't, because it doesn't exist.

In case you can't read, I'm not going to find the posts given the exorbinent amount of time required. I can care less about your thought of me, and chocolab (yes abbreviated, sue me) proved my point. My point, for clarification, is teams will trade better than #22 for Roy Williams and he will, in all likelihood, sign an extension. So this crap about him being in Dallas for one of your first rounders because he wants to play in Dallas is crap.

but so many zoners feel this way. it shouldn't take someone as smart as you and your wiley ways of science to shoot a fish in a barrell, should it?

 

[firehawk350]

What's ironic that you don't know how to correctly use the term "ironic"

Actually, I find a lot of terms are misused nowadays. Does miracle describe anything we see in sports? Nope, everything that has happened in every major "miracle" of sport has a perfectly logical explanation. Awesome doesn't mean inspiring awe, rather it just means pretty damn good. Great isn't used as it should either. Basically, I think the english language is getting watered down by it's speakers trying to sensationalize their own ideas, meanings or products so that soon everything will be utterly horrid, perfectly average or the greatest thing to ever happen.

Regardless, irony in it's simplest meaning (an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected) is correctly used in the fact that you meant to call Commander fans illiterate but did so with horrible english (betraying yourself as illiterate). That, my friend is irony (at least according to dictionary.com), at least in it's base form.

 

[firehawk350]

sure it does, just not when he has no power to do so. next year when he's a FA and detroit can't afford to tag him, wanting to be in dallas will carry some weight, if he really wants to.

You're right, but in reference to a trade, it doesn't matter. Most players, after a trade and given an extension will take the money now vs. later given the uncertain nature of the game.

 

[iceberg]

Actually, I find a lot of terms are misused nowadays. Does miracle describe anything we see in sports? Nope, everything that has happened in every major "miracle" of sport has a perfectly logical explanation. Awesome doesn't mean inspiring awe, rather it just means pretty damn good. Great isn't used as it should either. Basically, I think the english language is getting watered down by it's speakers trying to sensationalize their own ideas, meanings or products so that soon everything will be utterly horrid, perfectly average or the greatest thing to ever happen.

Regardless, irony in it's simplest meaning (an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected) is correctly used in the fact that you meant to call Commander fans illiterate but did so with horrible english (betraying yourself as illiterate). That, my friend is irony (at least according to dictionary.com), at least in it's base form.

my brain just got watered down trying to read this.

i'll take a pass on correcting your grammar for the irony of it.

 

[iceberg]

You're right, but in reference to a trade, it doesn't matter. Most players, after a trade and given an extension will take the money now vs. later given the uncertain nature of the game.

so quit mixing arguments and views to suit your purposes or go find specific examples as asked for by several posters.

you whine like an unpaid hooker but i guess that's not uncommon in DC or those that follow their teams.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Actually, I find a lot of terms are misused nowadays. Does miracle describe anything we see in sports? Nope, everything that has happened in every major "miracle" of sport has a perfectly logical explanation. Awesome doesn't mean inspiring awe, rather it just means pretty damn good. Great isn't used as it should either. Basically, I think the english language is getting watered down by it's speakers trying to sensationalize their own ideas, meanings or products so that soon everything will be utterly horrid, perfectly average or the greatest thing to ever happen.

Regardless, irony in it's simplest meaning (an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected) is correctly used in the fact that you meant to call Commander fans illiterate but did so with horrible english (betraying yourself as illiterate). That, my friend is irony (at least according to dictionary.com), at least in it's base form.

It's just too easy

Whats the Cowboyszone catch limit these days?

 

[firehawk350]

Abbreviated.. yet you used more characters than if you spelled out the entire username?

You are batting a 1000

Conserving energy for further use of the name... Or maybe it really is my disdain. Stay tuned as I try to continue to battle 5 cowboy fans at once all the while searching for posts to appease Superpunk and vainly trying to do my job (which thankfully is pretty easy right now)...