RELEASED CB Patmon Released

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rynochop said:
I did.. He wasn't that good, got exposed, and got released
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It doesn't change the fact that he got worse from his rookie year.

There are players and coaches that are far worse than he was and it's too bad they aren't getting released.
 
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I think it's always important to remember that we, as fans, only see a very very small portion of what the front office sees. We're only privileged to see such a small amount of truly valuable content beyond the games on Sunday.

And what we do see, comes from generally poor media coverage.

Point being, while cutting a guy like Patmon and keeping a guy like Street might not make any sense on the surface, we really don't know the whole story. And likely never will.
 
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Proximo said:
I think it's always important to remember that we, as fans, only see a very very small portion of what the front office sees. We're only privileged to see such a small amount of truly valuable content beyond the games on Sunday.

And what we do see, comes from generally poor media coverage.

Point being, while cutting a guy like Patmon and keeping a guy like Street might not make any sense on the surface, we really don't know the whole story. And likely never will.
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Very true, but people see one bad play, or a player doesn't make every play, but yet get constantly hated on, or called a bum, or the over and often misused stupid term JAG.

Dez drops a pass, oh he is having a bad game. Because we know he will have 25 times more chances to make up for it. And usually makes the catch, escape this last game.
Street drops a pass, oh, he sucks, as he wont see another pass for 50 more plays. He makes a catch, then it's, wow, amazed he caught it. He gets another pass 3 games later, oh amazed he caught it. Catches 5 more passes that goes basically unnoticed. Drops one, oh he sucks.

That is the nature of the fans. And most always need a player or 5 to hate.
I don't like particular players at times, but don't hate them. I think Wilber should have been replaced. But I don't say he sucks every play he misses a tackle on.

But the coaches know more, as you said, that we do not see, much more.
 
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jazzcat22 said:
Street drops a pass, oh, he sucks, as he wont see another pass for 50 more plays. He makes a catch, then it's, wow, amazed he caught it. He gets another pass 3 games later, oh amazed he caught it. Catches 5 more passes that goes basically unnoticed. Drops one, oh he sucks.
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So he drops 2 of 9 and doesn't suck?
 
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It's hard to believe that Patmon has been a worse player than Wilcox. I just don't see how that was possible. Something else has to be going on....
 
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Sportsbabe said:
There's a whole lot of stuff to discuss without the juvenile repetitive diatribe: critique, criticize, who missed the plays, who didn't show up, the play calling, etc., etc. I can think of 25 things if we want to have an honest constructive debate.
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Folks would rather make jokes about a perception of Garrett cutting people for dress code on a flight....a couple years after many of the same ragged on Dez for wearing baggy pants in a mall and saying that he should be ashamed and/or disciplined (or worse). In the same vine, if it was an old man like Parcells demanding the same as JG, it would be right.

Accountability is stressed in so many ways...but when we cut someone, it was either a mistake by our management or the guy's massive talents were run into the ground somehow by our coaches blanketing them with horrendous advice. There is a reverential tone about Jimmy's accountability, respect, and fear he instilled. Go back and read about him getting drunk on the plane and threatening to cut guys, red-faced yelling in people's faces. I, for one, am strangely okay with that. But can you imagine if it happened today in the twitter world? Eh, we all wish for those days. I digress.

Discussions are cool - assuming the worst about a group of people (coaches, players) who I guarantee you care WAY more about the functioning of this team than any one person on this board is wackadoo. Unless you have a huge cowboys tattoo on your chest while sitting in a blue star wallpapered room on a couch shaped like one of the 90's offensive lineman. Then I'm cool with you, and please don't beat me up.
 
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