CBS Sports picks apart Jerry's comments on Eagles

[Ken]

3 straight SBs indicate that teams very very active in FA have done better than teams who were passive

TB, Rams, and now possibly Eagles

At some point fans need to wake and stop the ‘what if’ and the ‘maybe’ and state clearly that what the Joneses are doing is borne off ignorance, incompetence, ego, and stupidity

How about the Rams this year? They were still "active" and lost a key FA as well.

How about the Bills? It didn't work out so hot for them overpaying said 33 year old DE. They even have an "Elite" qb...

Denver? What, we don't want to talk about them?

Miami? Active as anyone....fell far short.

Bengals- Totally redid their OL in FA, you all were crowing how they would dominate. Fell short.

Raiders- Devante and Chandler Jones....lol

Chargers- JC Jackson, Khalil Mack...OMGZ....consensus offseason champ. LOL.


You guys are so typical....just focus your ire on the one unicorn that works out and then compare Dallas to it relentlessly. What about all the others? This is what I am saying that this approach is not sound and is not how you build a sustainably good football team.

 

[Ken]

Every team is going to have challenges at some point. It's impossible for any NFL team that wins to do it perfectly and have zero cap problems forever and hit on all their picks and always pick the right FAs.

Shoot, you seem to think we do it "right" and we have our own challenges. We have cap issues that require restructuring contracts that we probably shouldn't touch.

Your last two sentences are laughable. You have no idea what we will win next year. And Philly will be pretty darn talented next year, likely still more talented than us. They will be the favorite to repeat in the division. Really the only thing that could trip them up is if what we saw from Hurts this year was a mirage. Just one of those years where everything went right and then he turned back into a pumpkin, which I guess is possible. But if he actually is a good QB, Philly will win a ton of games next year.

Yes, we have made some key errors that have hampered us. We just have to get a few things right and we are there, imo.

My feeling, and obviously Jerry's, is that the Eagles will struggle to keep it together after this year. This is the result of shortcutting the process and trading picks for guy who need contracts after the year or before they play for you. You can do it once or twice but then it starts to catch up. The eagles did it with Brown, Gardner Johnson, Bradford, Quinn...etc.

Quinn was the one big swing and miss so they don't want to keep him. Brown was an immediate pay, he was worth it. GJ was absolutely a great trade but now they have to pay him top S money to keep him. Bradford was a great signing but they have to pay to keep him. Not worth it at his age.

They did a bunch of this type of move that is a short term fix and long term nightmare.

 

[Stash]

How about the Rams this year? They were still "active" and lost a key FA as well.

How about the Bills? It didn't work out so hot for them overpaying said 33 year old DE. They even have an "Elite" qb...

Denver? What, we don't want to talk about them?

Miami? Active as anyone....fell far short.

Bengals- Totally redid their OL in FA, you all were crowing how they would dominate. Fell short.

Raiders- Devante and Chandler Jones....lol

Chargers- JC Jackson, Khalil Mack...OMGZ....consensus offseason champ. LOL.


You guys are so typical....just focus your ire on the one unicorn that works out and then compare Dallas to it relentlessly. What about all the others? This is what I am saying that this approach is not sound and is not how you build a sustainably good football team.

 

[Sydla]

Yes, we have made some key errors that have hampered us. We just have to get a few things right and we are there, imo.

My feeling, and obviously Jerry's, is that the Eagles will struggle to keep it together after this year. This is the result of shortcutting the process and trading picks for guy who need contracts after the year or before they play for you. You can do it once or twice but then it starts to catch up. The eagles did it with Brown, Gardner Johnson, Bradford, Quinn...etc.

Quinn was the one big swing and miss so they don't want to keep him. Brown was an immediate pay, he was worth it. GJ was absolutely a great trade but now they have to pay him top S money to keep him. Bradford was a great signing but they have to pay to keep him. Not worth it at his age.

They did a bunch of this type of move that is a short term fix and long term nightmare.

Here's your problem.

You are taking the side of a guy who thinks that if you make a run at the SB it will cost you long term and cites a team that literally freaking won a SB five years ago with a vet team built in part through FA/trades and instead of entering purgatory like Jerry claims will happen, they retooled and are now back in the SB. If Jerry is thinking like you, your first instinct should be wait a second, maybe this isn't the right perspective.

And you can tell you are being a bit disingenuous when you say things like Quinn was a big swing and miss for them. They traded away a 4th round pick AND got Chicago to pay $7.1 million of his salary keeping it off the Eagles cap. That's far from a "big" swing and miss. Seems the exact opposite, a low cost, high reward play that just didn't materialize. At the end of the day, they didn't even need Quinn as they were the best sack team in the NFL by far.

 

[raven55]

he's stuck in his old mind of when jimmy johnson put the team together he couldn't put a lego team together much less a nfl champion. and for any body to dispute that go ahead, he's be trying for 28 years and counting i guess that his long time bs every body that he could do it wait till hamburger mike starts calling the plays that were draw up for arron rogers that sould get some laughs in between his great clock management. I feel sorry for all the guys on defense because they really gave it all but when you see the qb screw you over some how i think in most games they didn't care. I'm not a genius but i could do a better job at being a GM than dumb and dumber. Can you even imagine working for this bunch you have to be a little of a kiss -as see you for the next 28 drafts

 

[Jake]

Ultimately, the Eagles did it way better than the Rams did it. They will be judged on how they are able to a) finish this season. Super Bowl W and they were absolutely correct. Loss and then go lose a bunch of key players because they can't afford them....nice try but fail.

No one could have predicted they would have a golden ticket into the super bowl like they got. I doubt anyone would argue that if we faced the DJ and Practice Squad weapons of the Gmen at home we would win that game and if we then were to face the literally unable to throw 49ers...we would have won that game too.

Kudos for them but it really comes down the the Super Bowl and what happens this offseason as to whether they are right or not.

The Eagles have reached three SBs in the last 20 years, with 3 different QBs and 3 different HCs. Meanwhile, the Cowboys can't get by the divisional round.

They've proven themselves right 3 different times while Jerry & Son are still spinning their wheels with their "long-term" thinking.

 

[Stash]

The Eagles have reached three SBs in the last 20 years, with 3 different QBs and 3 different HCs. Meanwhile, the Cowboys can't get by the divisional round.

They've proven themselves right 3 different times while Jerry & Son are still spinning their wheels with their "long-term" thinking.

 

[Asklesko]

Jerry Jones getting fact checked? Nice.

 

[Ken]

Here's your problem.

You are taking the side of a guy who thinks that if you make a run at the SB it will cost you long term and cites a team that literally freaking won a SB five years ago with a vet team built in part through FA/trades and instead of entering purgatory like Jerry claims will happen, they retooled and are now back in the SB. If Jerry is thinking like you, your first instinct should be wait a second, maybe this isn't the right perspective.

And you can tell you are being a bit disingenuous when you say things like Quinn was a big swing and miss for them. They traded away a 4th round pick AND got Chicago to pay $7.1 million of his salary keeping it off the Eagles cap. That's far from a "big" swing and miss. Seems the exact opposite, a low cost, high reward play that just didn't materialize. At the end of the day, they didn't even need Quinn as they were the best sack team in the NFL by far.

Which is why i thought it was strange to go after Quinn to begin with. If you think throwing away 4th round picks is nothing....lol

Again...we cite 1 team that the moons aligned for. I cited higher in this thread about half a dozen other teams that tried the same thing and failed. That is the norm. Philly is the absolute exception to the rule.

If you can't understand that, I don't know what else I can say.

 

[visionary]

How about the Rams this year? They were still "active" and lost a key FA as well.

How about the Bills? It didn't work out so hot for them overpaying said 33 year old DE. They even have an "Elite" qb...

Denver? What, we don't want to talk about them?

Miami? Active as anyone....fell far short.

Bengals- Totally redid their OL in FA, you all were crowing how they would dominate. Fell short.

Raiders- Devante and Chandler Jones....lol

Chargers- JC Jackson, Khalil Mack...OMGZ....consensus offseason champ. LOL.


You guys are so typical....just focus your ire on the one unicorn that works out and then compare Dallas to it relentlessly. What about all the others? This is what I am saying that this approach is not sound and is not how you build a sustainably good football team.

 

[Ken]

The Eagles have reached three SBs in the last 20 years, with 3 different QBs and 3 different HCs. Meanwhile, the Cowboys can't get by the divisional round.

They've proven themselves right 3 different times while Jerry & Son are still spinning their wheels with their "long-term" thinking.

Two of those super bowls....the path to it was

Matt Ryan and Chase Keenum...

and

Daniel Jones and A team that couldn't forward pass for over half the game.


While we get....

Tom Brady and a fully functioning 49ers team.

Aaron Rodgers

Aaron Rodgers

Etc.

 

[Ken]

Profound response.

I know you think this is somehow supposed to make you seem so much smarter.....it doesn't. FYI.

 

[Sydla]

Which is why i thought it was strange to go after Quinn to begin with. If you think throwing away 4th round picks is nothing....lol

Again...we cite 1 team that the moons aligned for. I cited higher in this thread about half a dozen other teams that tried the same thing and failed. That is the norm. Philly is the absolute exception to the rule.

If you can't understand that, I don't know what else I can say.

Yeah, 4th round picks are largely a crap shoot. To suggest them trading a 4th round pick AND having Chicago eat salary is a big swing, LOL.

 

[Captain-Crash]

lmao, let's start a who we looking at in the draft thread if it makes any difference.

 

[Sydla]

Two of those super bowls....the path to it was

Matt Ryan and Chase Keenum...

and

Daniel Jones and A team that couldn't forward pass for over half the game.


While we get....

Tom Brady and a fully functioning 49ers team.

Aaron Rodgers

Aaron Rodgers

Etc.

It's always excuse after excuse.

You really struggle with admitting any reality that doesn't paint the Cowboys in the best light.

 

[FVSTONE]

I mean it's not surprising there is an article like this out there. What Jerry said was dumb. Many of the points in this article were made by posters here.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...super-bowl-cowboys-prefer-long-term-approach/

For almost 3 decades JJ has been a complete imbecile when it comes to football decisions and this organization. JJ is a legend in his own mind and that trip to the HOF was probably because he wrote them a large check to pretty things up, because he wasn't put in the HOF for being some type of football genius. No, JJ in a complete idiot with a lot of money who ruined a completely great organization because he could, nothing less - nothing more!

 

[Stash]

It's always excuse after excuse.

You really struggle with admitting any reality that doesn't paint the Cowboys in the best light.

 

[Creeper]

Why would anyone listen to Jerry Jones and his lame excuses anymore. The Rams definitely sold out for a Super Bowl, but you know what? They won a Super Bowl. This season they got bitten by the injury bug, but they will be back soon enough. The still have a Super Bowl win.

The Eagles have been brilliant in their dealings. Whether it's free agents they signed or the drafts, or the trades they have made. They hit on most of them and that is why their roster is good enough to win multiple Super Bowls without paying a QB $40 million a year. Give the Eagles credit.

Jerry was fleeced by the Browns for Amari Cooper. But Jerry was being Jerry and thought he was smarter than everyone else. A 5th and swap of 6ths for one of the best route running WRs in the league. What a joke - on Jerry. And the worst par tis Jerry acting like he had no other choice! He thinks we are stupid. Cooper was due $20 million in salary with $2 million in prorated bonus. This contract was begging for a restructure to save CAP space. Jerry just won;t admit Cooper ticked him off at some point and he made an emotional not a business decision. I didn't like Cooper either. I don't think he is a winner. He does not have the competitive fire. But there is no way in Hates I trade him for just a 5th and moving up a few spots in the 6th. Sometimes you just have to say no.

 

[Ken]

Yeah, 4th round picks are largely a crap shoot. To suggest them trading a 4th round pick AND having Chicago eat salary is a big swing, LOL.

I would never trade a 4th round pick for a guy you didn't need.

This is how you would build a football team, not me.

 

[Ken]

It's always excuse after excuse.

You really struggle with admitting any reality that doesn't paint the Cowboys in the best light.

Nope...that is the reality.

They had cakewalks to get to the super bowl while we have to beat the best of the best or eventual super bowl champs.