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MossBurner said:
Ummm...doesn't that mean he got burnt. Check the replay. Santana ran right by Glenn and then right beside Roy.
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Ummm.....that means he was not assigned to help out the area in which Moss was in you half wit :rolleyes:

Santana didnt run by Roy, Roy ran at him because his assingment was shorter than Moss's route. he went over to help when he realized there wa sone on one coverage with Moss. Moss also only gets by Glenn when Glenn reaches for the ball, never before.

Skins fans contention has always been Roy got beat. Not that that is disproved, they change it to "He blew his assingment and should have been there". Brilliant :rolleyes:
 
Vintage said:
Watch the replay.

That's Roy coming OVER to help.

Not Santana running by Roy.
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I agree with you. SM ran by AG and then by RW. How many times can these two plays be debated? Time to move on to 2006.
 
MossBurner said:
Ummm...doesn't that mean he got burnt. Check the replay. Santana ran right by Glenn and then right beside Roy.
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Dude, HeavyHitta absolutely owned you on this debate. He produced frame after frame of visual evidence. Around here we jokingly call him the pinata because he takes so many beatings. When you get schooled by the pinata, you've been schooled bad.

Don't miss your bus.

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You don't want to be late for your next class.
 
What eludes me is this....

Santana got by Roy once.
Patrick Crayton got by Sean Taylor once.

Now, if you are an elite WR, shouldn't you be able to get by a SS rather easily? I mean, esp. one noted for his speed (as Moss is)?

Yet, Skins fans continually dog Roy for getting burnt.

All the while overlooking Crayton beating Taylor.

They have to knock Williams in order to prop Taylor up. Why is that?
 
Vintage said:
What eludes me is this....

Santana got by Roy once.
Patrick Crayton got by Sean Taylor once.

Now, if you are an elite WR, shouldn't you be able to get by a SS rather easily? I mean, esp. one noted for his speed (as Moss is)?

Yet, Skins fans continually dog Roy for getting burnt.

All the while overlooking Crayton beating Taylor.

They have to knock Williams in order to prop Taylor up. Why is that?
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***** envy.
 
Hostile said:
Dude, HeavyHitta absolutely owned you on this debate. He produced frame after frame of visual evidence. Around here we jokingly call him the pinata because he takes so many beatings. When you get schooled by the pinata, you've been schooled bad.

Don't miss your bus.

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You don't want to be late for your next class.
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I can't think of anything clever to say....that's just too funny.

:lmao2:
 
MossBurner said:
I agree with you. SM ran by AG and then by RW. How many times can these two plays be debated? Time to move on to 2006.
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You agree with me. Then change my words to fit your agenda. Brilliant.

I said Roy was coming OVER to help...not that Santana ran by....Roy is heading OVER.

If you need to use the dictionary to look up the word "over," please do so. Now would be the time.

What pisses me off is that people like you are allowed to breathe the same air the rest of us are. Its a shame. Its taking away good oxygen.
 
Here is why Roy Williams always has been and always will be better than Sean Taylor:

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Vintage said:
You agree with me. Then change my words to fit your agenda. Brilliant.

I said Roy was coming OVER to help...not that Santana ran by....Roy is heading OVER.

If you need to use the dictionary to look up the word "over," please do so. Now would be the time.

What pisses me off is that people like you are allowed to breathe the same air the rest of us are. Its a shame. Its taking away good oxygen.
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Here I did it for him:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/over
 
Roy Williams is a very good strong safety and him being on the field changes the other temas offense. He *IS* a game changer, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have holes in his game. (Shaq can't shoot a free throw) Just because he is a strong safety doesn't make up for his coverage deficiencies just as Shaq being a center isn't an excuse for poor free throw shooting.

You want an elite safety? Ronnie Lott. He was elite at all the positions he played. Pro-Bowler at CB, SS, and FS. Yes, running backs feared Lott because he hit like Roy Williams (if not harder!!!) He could also cover intercepting 63 passes in 13 years. An Elite safety has a complete game. Roy does not have that, but he is a game changer and that is huge.

btw, Who is Ronnie Lott's favorite player to watch in the NFL right now? Roy Williams!
 
MossBurner said:
I agree with you. SM ran by AG and then by RW. How many times can these two plays be debated? Time to move on to 2006.
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YOU and other Commanders fans are the ones who keep holding onto that game as proof of your "ownage" of Dallas. We dismiss it for what it really was: A fluke that is bound to happen once every decade or so
 
MossBurner said:
Before I say anything, I think Roy is a very good SS - one of the best at his position. I don't think Roy would be a good FS, though.

Without a doubt - if Roy didn't have a star on his helmet, he would not be as hyped as he is.
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superpunk said:
My guess is - that's why he doesn't play FS.

Call me crazy....
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You so crazy... but on the mofo'n mark
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BrAinPaiNt said:
I guess the end result is the same though.

Or one could argue that instead of doing his assignment his mental makeup allowed himself to be beat.

Wasn't that similar to the excuse that people used for him when he got beat by Crayton?

It would pretty much fit seeing that he seems to do many stupid things since joining the league.
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I can see it now six years down the road, Sean Taylor is released and he goes from being the best safety in the NFL to "undisciplined" a freelancer if you will. Cough...cough...Lavar Arrington...cough...cough.
 
MossBurner said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKcl-sfEiEM&search=santana moss

You'll notice on the 2nd touchdown that Santana runs right beside and past Roy.

What is the argument here?
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BECAUSE HE WAS NOT ROY ASSINGMENT!!!!!!!

Roy was assinged to zone coverage in an area shorter than where Moss' route ended up. When no WR was in his area and he saw the ball going to a one on one covered Moss, he tried to help, but because that was not his area, he was too far away to make a play.
 
MossBurner said:
In fact, Roy is closer to Santana than Glenn for 95% of that play.
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Have you ever heard of a "Zone?"

It could help you out a lot.
 
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