CBS Sportsline - Overrated & Underrated players from each team

[LittleBoyBlue]

Question for the mods: Is it inappropriate for me to suggest to MossBurner to take a bath with a plugged in toaster?

I mean, technically, I am not calling him a name or anything...or attacking him...

Well I am no lawyer.... but..... in your wording you not telling him to take a bath and place the toaster in the water.... so.... :explode:I think you are good!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Someone needs to call the police.

There's been a beating in this thread.

If you subsribe to the "admit to nothing" rule.

The officer comes to me and I say "I ain't seen nuttin, you aint gettin nuttin outta me"

 

[superpunk]

Dude, HeavyHitta absolutely owned you on this debate. He produced frame after frame of visual evidence. Around here we jokingly call him the pinata because he takes so many beatings. When you get schooled by the pinata, you've been schooled bad.

True words.

What is this, the 148th "was Roy to blame" thread this season, since week 2?

I realize that estimate is conservative.

 

[superpunk]

You so crazy... but on the mofo'n mark

I've been known to wear straight jackets.

And double-breasted jackets.

And triple button down jackets.

And even Member's Only jackets.

Don't sleep.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

One more thing... I, for one, don't care if it was Roy's fault. Even if Moss did run by Roy, so what? Roy can't keep up with a speedy 5-9 WR, but neither can Reed or Dawkins or Polamalu or Harrison or any other of the other better safeties in the league. Does that make them all worthless? Of course not.

Point being, every single player who has ever lived has missed tackles and gotten beaten for big plays. It's nonsensical to pick out one or two of those plays and judge a player by them... Unless you're a Skins troll.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Here is, however, Sean Taylor clearly getting beat by both Glenn and Crayton:

And here is a blown assingment by Taylor in the biggest game of his life, allowing Hasslebeck to score:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcUowHhRKeg&search=Sean taylor

Here is another clip from the same game in which Taylor plays for the big hit instead of preventing the catch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4zBxcCvUlQ&search=Sean taylor

And of course, the infamous video of Greg Jones trucking Sean Taylor in college:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NiwGp1TM5k&search=Sean taylor

 

[lspain1]

True words.

What is this, the 148th "was Roy to blame" thread this season, since week 2?

I realize that estimate is conservative.

Yes, but this is an offiicial CBS Sportsline..."It was all Roy's Fault" thread....and that means it's of 'special significance.'

 

[Chief]

There were four other safeties on Prisco's overrated list: Sammy Knight, Donovin Darius, Mike Doss and Adam Archuleta.

All were singled out for their coverage deficiencies.

I agree that Williams isn't the "best safety" in football because of his coverage weaknesses, but for Prisco to arbitrarily pick off strong safeties and state they are all coverage liabilities is dubious. There is a reason they are strong safeties and that is because they lack range. That's like downgrading a fullback because they don't have tailback speed and movement skills.

Excellent point.

This post and the transcript that Adam posted of Parcells after the game should be emailed to Prisco. Oh, and we can send him the photo of the dog crap that I posted, too.

 

[1fisher]

Question for the mods: Is it inappropriate for me to suggest to MossBurner to take a bath with a plugged in toaster?

I mean, technically, I am not calling him a name or anything...or attacking him...

This is not ExtremeSkins and you will NOT get banned!

 

[superpunk]

Yes, but this is an offiicial CBS Sportsline..."It was all Roy's Fault" thread....and that means it's of 'special significance.'

It's officially ********.

Look, people - HH31 is killing Skins trolls in this thread. HeavyHitta31!!!!!!

How long does this have to continue before we take care of this cockroach problem? I've got a can of Raid, if anyone needs it.

 

[superpunk]

Excellent point.

This post and the transcript that Adam posted of Parcells after the game should be emailed to Prisco. Oh, and we can send him the photo of the dog crap that I posted, too.

Someone told me a story about taking a dump in a box and mailing it to someone a few states away once.

That's all I can remember, but it cracks me up.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Excellent point.

This post and the transcript that Adam posted of Parcells after the game should be emailed to Prisco. Oh, and we can send him the photo of the dog crap that I posted, too.

Great request... I'll do that this evening when I get home. I'm sure he'll especially appreciate the dung gif.

But you know the spin will be that Parcells was just taking up for his star player.

 

[superpunk]

But you know the spin will be that Parcells was just taking up for his star player.

Which is probably why he pinned it on Glenn.

Of course, had Parcells blamed Glenn, Roy might have got off the hook on some misplaced "Parcells guys" rant, and everyone would have forgotten.

^^^^I'm not sure that makes sense. In any case, if Parcells was looking for a scapegoat, you'd think he'd go after Roy, rather than Glenn, a noted Parcells guy brought in via free agency. Because, apparently, these Parcells guys' act with impunity, start without earning it, and engineer the release of fan favorites. At least - That's what they tell me.

 

[Alexander]

In any case, if Parcells was looking for a scapegoat, you'd think he'd go after Roy, rather than Glenn, a noted Parcells guy brought in via free agency.

Actually, Coach Parcells is harder on "his guys" because he knows they can take what he dishes out.

At any rate, you have no choice but to believe it was Glenn's man. No matter what, there is no excuse for giving up what we did on the play. Whether Glenn mistimed his jump (which he did on several other occasions throughout the year) or Williams took a bad angle, went too shallow etc., it was a terrible series of decisions by two players who should know better.

 

[superpunk]

Actually, Coach Parcells is harder on "his guys" because he knows they can take what he dishes out.

At any rate, you have no choice but to believe it was Glenn's man. No matter what, there is no excuse for giving up what we did on the play. Whether Glenn mistimed his jump (which he did on several other occasions throughout the year) or Williams took a bad angle, went too shallow etc., it was a terrible series of decisions by two players who should know better.

In any case, I see no profit in him lying about it. If he lays down what happened, no reason to doubt.

I hate Glenn for that play, but then I love him for coming up huge against Plax - who has him by at least half a foot in height - in our first meeting.

 

[Alexander]

In any case, I see no profit in him lying about it. If he lays down what happened, no reason to doubt.

I hate Glenn for that play, but then I love him for coming up huge against Plax - who has him by at least half a foot in height - in our first meeting.

Glenn is supposedly working on timing his jumps better from other articles I have read. I certainly hope so. He made some big plays (against New York as you said plus the interception in San Diego), but he also made some bad decisions like he did against Drew Carter in the Carolina contest.

 

[YosemiteSam]

This thread seems to be slowing down.

Here let me fix that.

Roy was playing zone and Moss was in his zone. The Cowboys endzone!

Therefore, it's Roy's fault.

 

[superpunk]

Glenn is supposedly working on timing his jumps better from other articles I have read. I certainly hope so. He made some big plays (against New York as you said plus the interception in San Diego), but he also made some bad decisions like he did against Drew Carter in the Carolina contest.

I don't know how much better he can get, at his age. I just hope our top 2 stay healthy this year, no nagging injuries, so we can maintain the depth chart, and scheme, and not have to unnecessarily call on our old, midget corner. IIRC, it wasn't the jump that was the problem on Moss's catch - it was that he just completely missed the ball he was trying to INT.

 

[DLCassidy]

It's possible RW is overrated, he is after all Scouts Inc's highest rated NFL safety at 90 (a whopping 7 points higher than the 2nd rated safety). And it's possible Sean Taylor is underrated, he is after all in a tie for 10th with aging safety Lawyer Milloy with a rating of 76. But either way, RW > ST.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

IIRC, it wasn't the jump that was the problem on Moss's catch - it was that he just completely missed the ball he was trying to INT.

IMO the worst decision was going all-or-nothing for the ball. He should have tried the textbook corner technique where you play the ball with your lead arm and simultaneously grab the WR with your off arm. In that situation you can still knock the ball away, but even if you whiff, you can tackle the WR.

He'd even have been better off just letting Moss catch the thing and then tackling him, because the Skins still had 40 or so yards to go, and needed a TD to beat us with less than two minutes left. What Glenn did was the worst thing he could have done in that situation.