Changed my mind about Lamb

Chasing6

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Cowboys were never signing anyone in free agency. I know it pains yall to hear this but yes the Cowboys intentionally signed Zeke and not Henry. They believe Zeke is good enough to start for them. They were not signing Reader or anyone. How many years do you guys need to see this?
I have no problem with not signing Henry. I believe RB by committee is the way to go period.

However, I am still not a fan of wasting money or draft picks.

The same people *****ing about how much Dak should get paid are ok with CD getting whatever it takes.

Dak somehow gets his stats in garbage time, but CD miraculously does not. Can someone explain how that works?
 

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I have no problem with not signing Henry. I believe RB by committee is the way to go period.

However, I am still not a fan of wasting money or draft picks.

The same people *****ing about how much Dak should get paid are ok with CD getting whatever it takes.

Dak somehow gets his stats in garbage time, but CD miraculously does not. Can someone explain how that works?
Every big name player has gotten to pad their stats on the likes of the Commanders/Giants the last few years. All of them. The NFC Least has made our players overrated and overpaid to a large extent. The truth lies in big games like against the 49ers and the playoffs. Will be interesting to see with a 1st place schedule this year how they fair.
 

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100% that 2 million isn’t going to hurt as far as total cap spent … 100% agree.

That is a lazy distraction from the bigger point being made … it IS absolutely the difference between signing Zeke instead of Derek Henry … or DJ Reader vs Jordan Phillips or Bobby Wagner vs Kendricks etc etc etc etc … but hey that’s always the line of thinking the “who cares what a player makes” crew postulates. 2 things can be true at once … we are able to not care less what a player makes, while also caring how a salary a player does make, impacts team make-up and ultimately TEAM success.

The “who cares what a guy gets paid” crowd also so conveniently forget the fact CeeDee is under a contract he signed. Boo hoo … he loved his bag when he signed it. If he cared so much about his bag then, why did he sign it? Where were these folks THEN? Why didn’t they care that he was “getting screwed on his bag” THEN? Goes both ways, bruh.

Can you see how it’s wild how these same folks who tell others “who cares what a guy gets paid” suddenly care and argue so much about what he gets paid? When he himself apparently didn’t care when he signed his OG contract. Works both ways …why do these other folks care so much NOW that he is paid “market value” … but alas it’s 2024, personal accountability is gone and now it’s the era of “imma delete my employer name from my IG and whine like a lil B until I get my NEW way who cares what I signed.” Same lil whiny B we saw on national TV when he laid an egg when it mattered most … so yah CeeDee … love ya as a player … love ya as a player for the team I’ve followed for 45 years … absolutely 100% Go get your bag you think you deserve … just do not do so at the expense of the team I root for, go get it somewhere else and all the best to ya. Absolutely didn’t love your GB meltdown … or your silence amidst your mama’s social media meltdown after your epic playoff meltdown … but I guess it always comes full circle in understanding.

Life is about tradeoffs so no one is stopping CeeDee from his bag or suggesting he don’t go get it, what I hear many, including myself saying are … just don’t cry and pretend to be team first blah blah blah … your market value as a player is determined by the role you play on the TEAM paying you …No better example than Pat Mahomes. CeeDee, yah we saw his TEAM market value on full display during the GB playoff disaster … and while he wants his extra 2 million in salary many could easily argue it’s shortsighted stupidity bc most doubt his endorsements as say a Carolina Panther track the same path as a cowboy … so good luck to him on that front as well.

The post you replied to is really the crux of the matter … X million more for one, is either X million less for another … or sometimes one less quality player at another position of need … imagine Dak took a littlle less last year and they lined up Wagner at LB instead of tin man LVE who cost like 1.5million less than Wagner … instead DQ was playing CB/S as LB … and the run D was putrid … meanwhile Wagner was all pro as voted by the players …But hey, Dak got his bag so who cares … and it’s pretty hard to argue that his bag is truly “market value” … if that was YOUR money … would you pay for that for repeated playoff failure? I’d sure hope not, so while it’s convenient to say “doesn’t hurt the cap” it’s lazy to say that and ignore it DOES hurt the TEAM.

But hey boi got his bag, amiright? Make no mistake, Jerry will cave bc he can’t help himself, all the “who cares about what he makes” crowd will thumb their chests … all while every handoff to Zeke for 2 yards versus Henry for 5 will remind us ALL why players of camp cupcake are more worried about their bag than a Lombardi.

Go Texans I guess
Where did you get that from? Let's think about this for a second. If they wanted to sign Henry, do you think they wouldn't bc they had to pay Lamb 2mil more.....or is it a million times more likely that they'd still sign Henry and just skip out on one bargain bin player they always sign in free agency?

Besides you all need to go check out where we stack up around the league on salary cap the next few years bc you all are being sold a story. Make no mistake, we absolutely can sign all 3 of those guys to market setting contracts if we want too
 

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Every player wants big cash days (plural). Not sure how CeeDee Lamb is singled out simply because his market value is higher than many of his peers.
CeeDee singled himself out by not showing up to training camp and games despite being under contract.
 

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I have no problem with not signing Henry. I believe RB by committee is the way to go period.

However, I am still not a fan of wasting money or draft picks.

The same people *****ing about how much Dak should get paid are ok with CD getting whatever it takes.

Dak somehow gets his stats in garbage time, but CD miraculously does not. Can someone explain how that works?
Well I mean people don’t like Dak. It’s personal. So we know many will favor Lamb in that regard.

I just wanted to upgrade our running back room if that was Henry, Jacob’s, Swift or whoever.
 

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Every big name player has gotten to pad their stats on the likes of the Commanders/Giants the last few years. All of them. The NFC Least has made our players overrated and overpaid to a large extent. The truth lies in big games like against the 49ers and the playoffs. Will be interesting to see with a 1st place schedule this year how they fair.
Then why would we be willing to pay CD top $ on a career year, against a very soft schedule last year?

This was the perfect time to flip him before the draft for multiple draft picks.

We are supposed to have a significantly tougher schedule this year, so make him play it out and see what kind of stats he gets this year.
 

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I don't care how good he is. Turning down 33 million a year? Screw him.

And screw this tradition of every so-called elite player driving up salary cap costs. In the end it all translates to the fans having to pay more at games and merchandise.

These modern athletes need to get over themselves. Yes injury factors aside, they aren't that special. You don't see military vets demanding millions for their injury risk.
:facepalm: then stop watching. All that whining
Who says he got offered 33 million
33 is a lot of cake for a WR
When did the say that he was offered 33 million. Haven't seen anything on it.
 

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Then why would we be willing to pay CD top $ on a career year, against a very soft schedule last year?

This was the perfect time to flip him before the draft for multiple draft picks.

We are supposed to have a significantly tougher schedule this year, so make him play it out and see what kind of stats he gets this year.
That's what I would do. I wouldn't be entertaining his contract holdout... How much is he going to lose if he sits out 2024? Like $16-$17 million? I am 100% against inmates running the asylum and I loathe Jerry Jones pretty much.
 

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Then why would we be willing to pay CD top $ on a career year, against a very soft schedule last year?

This was the perfect time to flip him before the draft for multiple draft picks.

We are supposed to have a significantly tougher schedule this year, so make him play it out and see what kind of stats he gets this year.
Again, bc in 2020+ you either need a top WR, a little lesser WR with a rock solid WR core, or Patrick Mahommes. We don't have a solid WR room or Mahommes. It'd be dumb to let him walk/trade.

Also, once again you're asking our Front Ofiice to do things that they've proven to suck at.
 

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Again, bc in 2020+ you either need a top WR, a little lesser WR with a rock solid WR core, or Patrick Mahommes. We don't have a solid WR room or Mahommes. It'd be dumb to let him walk/trade.

Also, once again you're asking our Front Ofiice to do things that they've proven to suck at.
I disagree. I think you need a Defense that gives up 14.6 points a game like Patrick Mahomes.
 

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I disagree. I think you need a Defense that gives up 14.6 points a game like Patrick Mahomes.
Yes, and they HAD Mahommes. Mahommes ain't here to elevate these guys. You still do have to have good WRs to be successful....unless you're Mahommes.
 

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Yes, and they HAD Mahommes. Mahommes ain't here to elevate these guys. You still do have to have good WRs to be successful....unless you're Mahommes.
Some how you think Mahomes elevates the defense.
 

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The whole idea of paying grown men to play a game is absurd. What's more absurd is that we pay to watch it. Then tribalizing. The whole thing is ABSURD. Just pay him and get on with life.
Or paying actors 20 million a year for a 10 episode series, Or 20 million for a bad movie.
 

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Can the player retire with multiple years on his contract?
If your making that point then your agreeing with me so I hope.you understand that. Then yoi can't get mad at a guy for wanting a better deal when he's outplayed his contract
 

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I've read a lot of, eh it's a few more million.. it's not going to change anything.

These millions here and there add up. The difference between 33 and 35 million is having Henry vs having Zeke.
 

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I don't care how good he is. Turning down 33 million a year? Screw him.

And screw this tradition of every so-called elite player driving up salary cap costs. In the end it all translates to the fans having to pay more at games and merchandise.

These modern athletes need to get over themselves. Yes injury factors aside, they aren't that special. You don't see military vets demanding millions for their injury risk.
I don't care one way or the other. They can sign or trade Lamb and it wouldn't bother me. But who do you think leaked that he turned down 33M a year? We don't know the details of that contract other than a number released to make him look bad.

It reminds me of when the media reported that UPS truck drivers now make 170k a year. That number is misleading and meant for shock value.
 

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Every player wants big cash days (plural). Not sure how CeeDee Lamb is singled out simply because his market value is higher than many of his peers.
Just because market value dictates it doesn't mean a team must pay it,and that goes for any player,how could anyone refuse 33 mil a year?id trade his greedy ***
 

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I don't care how good he is. Turning down 33 million a year? Screw him.

And screw this tradition of every so-called elite player driving up salary cap costs. In the end it all translates to the fans having to pay more at games and merchandise.

These modern athletes need to get over themselves. Yes injury factors aside, they aren't that special. You don't see military vets demanding millions for their injury risk.
It’s easy to join the military. Many joined because they fooled around in high school and got bad grades and had no choice but to be stuck somewhere in a base in a foreign land they don’t want to be near.

But to make the pros is near impossible..
 

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Lamb deserves about 40 million a year for having to watch Dak in real time…
 
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