C'mon, why not upgrade at backup QB?

[superpunk]

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[philo beddoe]

I'm going to ask this as nicely as I possibly can.

Please shut up.

You put that ever so nicely. LOL

 

[philo beddoe]

That statement is incorrect. Green is done. The Chefs want to unload his $7+ mil contract because that is to much to pay a backup. Trust me I live up here and hear the news every day. The Chef fans can't wait for the day he is gone. That hit he took last year unoffically ended his career. Now he is just hanging on for a weekly payday. Honestly he should retire before he takes another shot to the head.

And Brad Johnson at 39 isn't "done"? LOL

 

[philo beddoe]

just once explain why you and phildo are the only two people on the planet with the LOL. schtick. It bugs the crap of of me that two of the biggest trolls on here have the exact same catch phrase and profess to being completely different people. Its cool brother everyone dislikes you both equally, LARGE.

See the Q lovers at the old FWST board for your answers on "LOL" & "Large". We adopted their terms as a joke. We're old friends who live in the same city, but two very different posters. Sorry to dissapoint you.

 

[philo beddoe]

Sorry guy, apparantly you were looking for a more interesting topic, like comparing shoe sizes of our WR's or something. :laugh2:

This topic still is an important one for this team. Get over it.

Right on target, my man.

 

[philo beddoe]

I'm torn here...

I hate the idea of Brad Johnson as our backup quarterback, but I also hate the idea of agreeing with Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum about anything.

If money were no object, Trent Green would be a much better option IMHO -- I see him as a guy who, if Romo went down, our season would still have a pulse -- but I don't see him going to a team that already has its starter firmly in place.

Johnson gives me no comfort as a backup whatsoever. I think he's totally finished as a QB.

Oh go ahead and agree with me. There's certainly no shame in it. Brad Johnson is over the hill, done & a POOR choice as our backup QB.

 

[philo beddoe]

Careful CrazyCowboy, you will enrage many on this board with that kind of thinking. After all what's not to like about a 39 year old, tired arm QB who is at the end of a long, unremarkable career.

LOL. that about sums it all up!

 

[TheProphet]

*sigh*

I'm going to make one futile last ditch attempt to drum this into your skull.

If Romo goes down for the year, the season is done. We know it. The front office knows it. There was no one out there who has relegated themselves to the backup role who would have made any difference in that regard.

We may indeed draft a rook QB, but I got news for you... Even if it is John Beck, if Romo goes down for the year, the season is STILL DONE!! There is no "covering ourselves" if Romo isn't the answer or gets injured this year. None. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can get over your little QB fetish.

Using your brilliant logic, why even have a back up QB on the roster???! The objective is for the backup to be able to come in and lead the team to wins - many of us feel ole Bradford ain't up to the task. Get over it.

 

[TheProphet]

Oh go ahead and agree with me. There's certainly no shame in it. Brad Johnson is over the hill, done & a POOR choice as our backup QB.

L A R G E !

 

[superpunk]

I'm very interested in this topic, philo and prophet.

I was wondering, do you know the average winning percentage of backup QBs that are forced into action due to injury over the past 5 years? Just so we know what we should be striving for, should the unthinkable happen and Tony Romo go down for the season?

In addition, I'd be interested to see how teams Brad Johnson has been a backup QB for have fared when he was pressed into duty due to injury.

These two things should give us a decent idea of what to expect should Johnson go down, both in relation to the league-wide precedent, and with regards to Johnson's prior performance.

You two seem to be the experts on this subject, and I figured if anyone had taken the time to compile this information, it would be one of you, considering your considerable concern with the backup QB scenario.

This is important information. I'll look forward to seeing your findings.

 

[Hostile]

You put that ever so nicely. LOL

Actually, yes I did.

I said "please" and I left out a very ugly word that I very much wanted to include.

I am tired of the two of you whining about this forum. The backlash isn't about the topic of backup QB. Go back and look at my thread posted at the exact same time as one of yours for proof. It got great responses. The backlash is about the two of you and your tag team act. Period.

Don't like the truth? Tough.

 

[Doomsday101]

Should Johnson be forced into action Dallas has the weapons for him to succeed. Given the lack of talent he had in Minn. sorry but Williamson and Wade are not exactly TO and Glenn add to that a pro bowl TE in Witten. Johnson has the savvy that the Cowboys were looking for and the ability to come off the bench at a moments notice.

 

[AbeBeta]

Actually, your thinking is stupid. Romo goes down, the back up QB goes in to win ball games, not just to take snaps. Many of us feel that ole Bradford is not up for the job. Get over it.

Your thinking is stupid if you think we are going to sign ANOTHER backup QB. And yes folks, I am using the term "thinking" very loosely.

 

[joseephuss]

And Brad Johnson at 39 isn't "done"? LOL

Johnson did not suffer a major concussion last season. Aikman was younger when a concussion ended his career. So was Steve Young. Both guys may have been able to continue playing, but head injuries are nothing to play around with. Green may be two years younger than Johnson, but that head injury may have changed him as a QB.

Do you want Dallas to trade a draft pick to KC and still pick up Green's hefty salary for him to be the back up? That just is not a smart move. If Green had not suffered a concussion, then maybe it would be a smart move. Then again, KC would probably not be looking to unload him if that were the case. It is not as if the Chiefs have a young QB. Huard will be 34 when the season starts. If Green is ultimately released, then Dallas can re-evaluate at that time. Of course that will be telling as well in that no team, even ones looking for a starter would be willing to trade for him.

 

[AbeBeta]

L A R G E !

Get a room boys. This crap where you pat each other on the back every time someone makes a post is getting very old.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

As a starting QB, Johnson probably is done. As a back up, I think he's still got some life. If we have to go for more then 3 or 4 games without our starting QB, were Probably done anyway. For 3 or 4 games at a stretch, I think Johnson is probably a very capable option. Green is trying to be a starter in Miami. We don't need that. Honestly, I don't understand what the big deal is. We got a decent option at backup QB signed. Lots of teams can't say that right now. I guess I just don't get it.

 

[Alexander]

I would be very eager to get younger and better than Johnson (I still think there are several who are still available who could fit the bill), but I believe it is too late for another veteran. We are married to Johnson.

I will be very disappointed if we do not draft a rookie to compete.

 

[Alexander]

You would have to do a search.

But it was out there in multiple articles and it was a direct quote from Brad Johnson. He was asked by a reporter about being a mentor for Tony Romo and he said (paraphrasing) that he did not come here to be a mentor.

Brett Favre said the same thing.

 

[philo beddoe]

Using your brilliant logic, why even have a back up QB on the roster???! The objective is for the backup to be able to come in and lead the team to wins - many of us feel ole Bradford ain't up to the task. Get over it.

Exactly. By this reasoning, we might as well let the punter or kicker be the backup QB. I mean, afterall, the season is over if Romo goes down. Why watse money on a backup?

 

[philo beddoe]

I'm very interested in this topic, philo and prophet.

I was wondering, do you know the average winning percentage of backup QBs that are forced into action due to injury over the past 5 years? Just so we know what we should be striving for, should the unthinkable happen and Tony Romo go down for the season?

In addition, I'd be interested to see how teams Brad Johnson has been a backup QB for have fared when he was pressed into duty due to injury.

These two things should give us a decent idea of what to expect should Johnson go down, both in relation to the league-wide precedent, and with regards to Johnson's prior performance.

You two seem to be the experts on this subject, and I figured if anyone had taken the time to compile this information, it would be one of you, considering your considerable concern with the backup QB scenario.

This is important information. I'll look forward to seeing your findings.

You want research? Do it yourself, I'm a little busy. I know what I know, and that is that you need a CAPABLE backup QB. A John Beck (or another rookie) could easily give us a better chance of winning than an old goat ready for the glue factory ala Johnson. Johnson offers no mobility or arm strength at this stage in his career. He's way past his prime.