Colin Cowherd: Comparing Purdy's situation to Dak

No, Dak is probably as good/better than Goff,Love,Hurts.....but as I stated previously, you can plan around their weaknesses. As a whole Dak is average (or +) across the board, but with that panic button when chasing a lead he needs EVERYTHING to go his way.
Yep, he's here for 3 (though an argument could be made gor 2 with a post June cut)....but the question is, if we/ he couldn't manage it in 2023, how do we build a comparative roster (with less Cap%) in the next two years. From where we are now, and presumably Dak's mobility (and 2024 form) will require even more protection, there's an argument to say we won't get to any Championship game any time soon, so don't throw CAP away on a forlorn hope .... THAT'S TANTAMOUNT TO SUPPORTING JERRY's RELEVANCY STRATEGY. Use 2025 to see what we have (and that includes Dak).
what does any of this have to do with the cap?

we know jerry and stephen lie about managin the cap and the issues. I have outlined it clearly about other clubs, and us being no different than any other of the 31 clubs in NFL.

jerry will continue to build a semi competitive roster, to stay relevant. stay in the media and dominate the airwaves. that's his goal. he is very good at it. none of the other arguments are relevant when it comes to the cowboys. and when you fully understand that, and what it really means, then signing Dak will make sense to you and how cowboys operate make sense...

if in 2025 we are competitive, semi competitive, then he will continue. only if it truly falls apart, then he makes desparate moves. he was close mid season. but we played a bunch of nobody's and became semi respectable in the stands and record and that gave Jerry ammunition to continue. stephen said as much, $100M of their cap is on IR...so that's the excuse. we had injuries. we were 7-10 and we get these guys back and we are good. we are back. and sell hope and market for 2025 and go from there. there is no long term vision or plan.
 
It's all subjective. Similar to the Dak v Romo argument at the end of day it's pretty irrelevant 'who's best' it's whether the coaching staff and FO can build around the QB's strengths/weaknesses.
As for the OP, I'm firmly in the camp that if you don't have a QB that stands out and can carry a team you're better off with a lesser or rookie QB whom you can support with a better roster. The difference between Dak (now) and Purdy, is that Dak has 4 years (+ the 40m deferment) and that he's not (unless there's a miracle) get another extension..... whereas Purdy will at least conceivably have another contract into which the 9ers can deferment this contract.

It's the CAP% argument for the SB competing QB's....I think Mahomes, last year, was the only QB with a CAP hit over 15% to win a SB. Only him, Brady and Manning got over 11% (I think).
Not to argue...but I think your post, though maybe factual, is a designed play to highlight the SB winning QB percentage....and in the examples you are using they mark at 15 and 11 percent.

I just want any young board members here to know that 20% of cap for QB's has been around for a long while now.

Mahomes signed an odd contract, Brady took a good deal and I dont know about Manning. Im not going back and looking it up...but Im pretty sure 20% has been around since early 2000's.

I just dont think it is fair to skew a young readers impression of what 2nd contract QB's make.
 
pretty much summarizes Jerry and Dallas cowboys. awsome job
Thanks.

So...you agree...that there is an Owner that might not have winning SB's as is number 1 goal?

Your post suggests that you agree. Well...if you agree....that means Jerry is already in the NFL and that the NFL will only become saturated with similar minded Owners.

So...peak football as far as Organizations is probably happening right now and will only diminish as money will suck everything it can out of football operations which will leave folks like you and mean talking about how Organizations were different in 2010 in 15 years.
 
It's all subjective. Similar to the Dak v Romo argument at the end of day it's pretty irrelevant 'who's best' it's whether the coaching staff and FO can build around the QB's strengths/weaknesses.
As for the OP, I'm firmly in the camp that if you don't have a QB that stands out and can carry a team you're better off with a lesser or rookie QB whom you can support with a better roster. The difference between Dak (now) and Purdy, is that Dak has 4 years (+ the 40m deferment) and that he's not (unless there's a miracle) get another extension..... whereas Purdy will at least conceivably have another contract into which the 9ers can deferment this contract.

It's the CAP% argument for the SB competing QB's....I think Mahomes, last year, was the only QB with a CAP hit over 15% to win a SB. Only him, Brady and Manning got over 11% (I think).
Hold on, you are now changing the argument. The claim was that Dak was just as good or better than Hurts, Goff and Love. Two of those three QBs have been on deep runs in the playoffs in multiple occasions. They sport a far superior record to Dak in the playoffs. So again, where is the proof? Mahomes I put in a different bracket along with Burrow as guys who can function with lots of limitations on offense and defense because they far more talented than any of these QBs we are comparing.
 
Hold on, you are now changing the argument. The claim was that Dak was just as good or better than Hurts, Goff and Love. Two of those three QBs have been on deep runs in the playoffs in multiple occasions. They sport a far superior record to Dak in the playoffs. So again, where is the proof? Mahomes I put in a different bracket along with Burrow as guys who can function with lots of limitations on offense and defense because they far more talented than any of these QBs we are comparing.
So you differentiate between QB's on how far they get to through the play-offs, fair enough.
The manner of your posts appear to mistake me for a Dak Fan :lmao:..... but then again he's still a good QB, just his outstanding quality doesn't work until everything's working for him (something I'm sure I've already said in this thread).
 

if you look across NFL, that's pretty much every team. but you are measuring and comparing cowboys in a vaccum.

Philly's top 6 contracts are 193M average.
Detroit top 6 contract are 170M average.
GB top 6 contracts are 155M average


Cowboys top 6 contract are 167M average.

so how is those teams are competitive and we are handicapped because of the cap!!!!
are the players on philly, detroit and GB selfish?
So ,you'd prefer to discuss this^^^ , OK.
The no.1 issue is Jerry and his aim at being relevant on an annual basis.
Taking the Eags as the antithesis.... this year their Top 6 contracts took just $70m (24%), however, in 2027, the Top6 = 133 (46%), but three of those are Void contracts..... and they are only have $80m in CAP and that's without: Lane, Goadart, Barkley , Slay, Graham, Sweat, Bradbury and Becton....there's also the distinct possibility, of cutting/trading Hurts.
Jerr,'s liking his own (inc Dak), inability to be imaginative in building the roster, but there's also a wide held belief that the GB game showed our roster wasn't great.
We weren't good enough in 2023 and in a way Jerry did restructure (Dak, Tank, Zack) to facilitate that last run....2024 was a soft reset, and as I bet there's uncertainty about which Dak comes back I'd imagine 2025 is going to be another year of evaluation.....don't go All-In on a pair.
 
So ,you'd prefer to discuss this^^^ , OK.
The no.1 issue is Jerry and his aim at being relevant on an annual basis.
Taking the Eags as the antithesis.... this year their Top 6 contracts took just $70m (24%), however, in 2027, the Top6 = 133 (46%), but three of those are Void contracts..... and they are only have $80m in CAP and that's without: Lane, Goadart, Barkley , Slay, Graham, Sweat, Bradbury and Becton....there's also the distinct possibility, of cutting/trading Hurts.
Jerr,'s liking his own (inc Dak), inability to be imaginative in building the roster, but there's also a wide held belief that the GB game showed our roster wasn't great.
We weren't good enough in 2023 and in a way Jerry did restructure (Dak, Tank, Zack) to facilitate that last run....2024 was a soft reset, and as I bet there's uncertainty about which Dak comes back I'd imagine 2025 is going to be another year of evaluation.....don't go All-In on a pair.
Jerry's goal is to just be relevant as you said and this roster keeps the team relevant. he feels really good right now having won 4 games against lesser teams (except the lucky game against Washington, thanks to special teams play). at 3-7, it was imploding. this late run gives him a reason to continue as is. they have already set the ground work. we are handicapped by the cap. we had $100M of cap on IR, therefore the result on the field. so they will use that all off season, then bank on the rookies on the OL to be better and lets go again....cowboys will dominate the media in off season once again. if we don't, jerry will create his own drama.

wash, rinse, repeat....its been working for 30 years. the only time he was motivated to actually win, was to prove Johnson wrong and show he can win without him. after that, it was all of the same.
 
So you differentiate between QB's on how far they get to through the play-offs, fair enough.
The manner of your posts appear to mistake me for a Dak Fan :lmao:..... but then again he's still a good QB, just his outstanding quality doesn't work until everything's working for him (something I'm sure I've already said in this thread).
I differentiate between QB's based on pure skill and command of the field. Dak Prescott fades when asked to step up, which goes against the whole "he is a great leader claim." Just based on that alone he lags way behind the guys that you have claimed he is supposed to be comparable or better than.

I don't care if you are a Dak fan or not. You asked a question, I answered, simple as that.
 
I differentiate between QB's based on pure skill and command of the field. Dak Prescott fades when asked to step up, which goes against the whole "he is a great leader claim." Just based on that alone he lags way behind the guys that you have claimed he is supposed to be comparable or better than.

I don't care if you are a Dak fan or not. You asked a question, I answered, simple as that.
He's not 'way behind' that's hyperbole.....simple as that.
 
Purdy is a decent QB. Not great, but pretty good. If they pay him, they have a two year window with him at a reasonable cap hit. After that it gets iffy. His cap hits are going to affect the team. It's really not any more complicated than that.
 
Jerry's goal is to just be relevant as you said and this roster keeps the team relevant. he feels really good right now having won 4 games against lesser teams (except the lucky game against Washington, thanks to special teams play). at 3-7, it was imploding. this late run gives him a reason to continue as is. they have already set the ground work. we are handicapped by the cap. we had $100M of cap on IR, therefore the result on the field. so they will use that all off season, then bank on the rookies on the OL to be better and lets go again....cowboys will dominate the media in off season once again. if we don't, jerry will create his own drama.

wash, rinse, repeat....its been working for 30 years. the only time he was motivated to actually win, was to prove Johnson wrong and show he can win without him. after that, it was all of the same.
You're flip flopping between 'rinse and repeat' v spending CAP for the sake of it.
Spending CAP on this roster IS 'rinse and repeat'. You're advocating to spend the CAP from a low roster position. You then compare us to teams like the Eagles, but the Eagles frequently trade away and take reset years.
Indeed, 2024 was a soft reset, with enough talent (if healthy) to possibly get to the play-offs. Indeed, with the question marks around Dak (form, health, mobility), why would you spend more bad money to back up an already awful position.
We should be taking another hit in 2025, as even if we spent the 100m CAP that's getting banded about ..... what/who's available that will elevate this team to Championship level?
 
Purdy is a decent QB. Not great, but pretty good. If they pay him, they have a two year window with him at a reasonable cap hit. After that it gets iffy. His cap hits are going to affect the team. It's really not any more complicated than that.
Yep, it's seen year in, year out. Following on from that is that Purdy (and Daks) next contract will invariably have deferment (in Dak's case) 40m. Inflating CAP hits, for, in normal less production as they age.
Then you have to prepare an 'exit strategy' out of the contract. Dak's unlikely (form/health/mobility) to get another contract, so get prepared to pay a high Void payment in 2029, or cut him in 2026 (probably post-June), or 2027. If we're planning on taking the latter route, and with the holes throughout the roster, there's very little point in restructuring Dak's contract.
 
Little truth but Purdy is way better than Dak. Purdy is Romo.
Just as his last contract (40 million a year) Jerry has now raised the QB bar to 60 million.
Purdy's agent should ask for 60 million + 1 dollar as it is only fair considering and comparing what the 2 QB have accomplished and shown on the field of play.
NFL owners have only Jerry to thank for destroying the QB cap market.
Viva Jerry your GM ineptness has now extended beyond Dallas!!!
 
You're flip flopping between 'rinse and repeat' v spending CAP for the sake of it.
Spending CAP on this roster IS 'rinse and repeat'. You're advocating to spend the CAP from a low roster position. You then compare us to teams like the Eagles, but the Eagles frequently trade away and take reset years.
Indeed, 2024 was a soft reset, with enough talent (if healthy) to possibly get to the play-offs. Indeed, with the question marks around Dak (form, health, mobility), why would you spend more bad money to back up an already awful position.
We should be taking another hit in 2025, as even if we spent the 100m CAP that's getting banded about ..... what/who's available that will elevate this team to Championship level?
sorry, you just spun everything to be about Dak and wanted to discuss Dak's ability/inability....you tried to disguise it under cap management.

I have not flip flopped. what I have said all along is that there is cap space to address needs on this team to make it better. could have gotten somebody better than zeke who didn't make it through the season and only played because the owner/GM wanted him to play. could have gotten a better DT, an obvious need on this team. would either of those make this team better? absolutely. but the joneses used the cap as an excuse for their inability to sign FAs, yet we had 23M on the cap and can have 65M....the CAP is not the issue. let me repeat, the CAP is not the issue. I have not flip flopped on that.

what you are confused about is that the joneses are going to do exactly the same thing. blame cap for not spending, sign middle level to lever FAs, and be almost relevant. exactly what we have done in the past 29 years. nothing different. that's the rinse and repeast.

so should we/ should we not spend the money is whole other argument, which you tried to make here, because you say Dak sucks (essentially that was your spin) and that spending any money is a waste of time, lets just get through 25 and then look for the next QB. that's a long term strategy discussion that has been happening around this neck of the woods for 30 years.

the only thing that will make jerry change a little is if its a disaster and he feels the heat in money and revenue. he succumbed to it, when we went 5-11 three straight years and gave some power to Parcells (only for a couple of years) only to meddle again. as long as we are just hanging around and he has excuses he will continue to do the same. that's why I wanted us to just lose out, end up 4-13 and that pressure would have forced jones to be just a little different. now, there is no hope for that.
 
sorry, you just spun everything to be about Dak and wanted to discuss Dak's ability/inability....you tried to disguise it under cap management.

I have not flip flopped. what I have said all along is that there is cap space to address needs on this team to make it better. could have gotten somebody better than zeke who didn't make it through the season and only played because the owner/GM wanted him to play. could have gotten a better DT, an obvious need on this team. would either of those make this team better? absolutely. but the joneses used the cap as an excuse for their inability to sign FAs, yet we had 23M on the cap and can have 65M....the CAP is not the issue. let me repeat, the CAP is not the issue. I have not flip flopped on that.

what you are confused about is that the joneses are going to do exactly the same thing. blame cap for not spending, sign middle level to lever FAs, and be almost relevant. exactly what we have done in the past 29 years. nothing different. that's the rinse and repeast.

so should we/ should we not spend the money is whole other argument, which you tried to make here, because you say Dak sucks (essentially that was your spin) and that spending any money is a waste of time, lets just get through 25 and then look for the next QB. that's a long term strategy discussion that has been happening around this neck of the woods for 30 years.

the only thing that will make jerry change a little is if its a disaster and he feels the heat in money and revenue. he succumbed to it, when we went 5-11 three straight years and gave some power to Parcells (only for a couple of years) only to meddle again. as long as we are just hanging around and he has excuses he will continue to do the same. that's why I wanted us to just lose out, end up 4-13 and that pressure would have forced jones to be just a little different. now, there is no hope for that.
Im not disguising anything.....we arent winning a thing with Dak and that contract, especially now he reverted back to the norm in 2024. He just needs too much support: O:line, Receivers, running game and Defense and you cant do it all with a QB on 17% CAP.

You keep banging on about the carryover we didnt spend, but who could we of obtained for that $23m that would have raised this team to potentially getting into a Championship Game, even if they wanted to come to us. Then there's the problem that this year we needed both quantity as well as quality (which is the BIGGEST effect of the elite contracts, you have too many JAGs). It seemed an idea for a soft reset, and identify who we had.

Yes, you could of spent some of this years CAP on short term contracts, and yes we could of improved, but are we seriously in the same ballpark as the Lions and Eags, BECAUSE if the answer's no then youre actually supporting the Annual Relevancy argument, in a vain attempt to get to one and done in the play-offs, but never challenging.

That's why so many of us wanted to take the 'hit' on Dak this year, play out the contract in 2024 and re-evaluate Dak with a lesser roster and see if he even warranted the contract where he could demand: the money, length and NTC. That was the chance, as you say, for the disaster that woke Jerry up.....but we'd be in such a better CAP position.
 
Im not disguising anything.....we arent winning a thing with Dak and that contract, especially now he reverted back to the norm in 2024. He just needs too much support: O:line, Receivers, running game and Defense and you cant do it all with a QB on 17% CAP.

You keep banging on about the carryover we didnt spend, but who could we of obtained for that $23m that would have raised this team to potentially getting into a Championship Game, even if they wanted to come to us. Then there's the problem that this year we needed both quantity as well as quality (which is the BIGGEST effect of the elite contracts, you have too many JAGs). It seemed an idea for a soft reset, and identify who we had.

Yes, you could of spent some of this years CAP on short term contracts, and yes we could of improved, but are we seriously in the same ballpark as the Lions and Eags, BECAUSE if the answer's no then youre actually supporting the Annual Relevancy argument, in a vain attempt to get to one and done in the play-offs, but never challenging.

That's why so many of us wanted to take the 'hit' on Dak this year, play out the contract in 2024 and re-evaluate Dak with a lesser roster and see if he even warranted the contract where he could demand: the money, length and NTC. That was the chance, as you say, for the disaster that woke Jerry up.....but we'd be in such a better CAP position.
again, you are trying so hard to tie the Dak contract and his value to Cap space and us being unable to make any moves (in your mind)...if Dak makes 5M do you think we are going to win anything?
I know you don't like Dak. you are welcome to your opinion. I am not saying you are wrong.but this 17% cap stuff is simply not true about our unwillingness as opposed to inability to sign any FAs.

the contract value relative to the cap is not an issue that can't be overcome...again, 31 other teams deal with the same.... this is the value of the contract relative to your opinion of what Dak is worth.
I think yourissue is you don't think Dak is good. so you don't think he deserves that contract.....and you are trying to tie that into the cap and being handicapped in making any moves.

and again we had 23M on the cap, why did we sign Joseph instead of a decent DT that were available? do you not think having a decent DT would have helped this team this year? we had 15M the year before, and 20M they year before that and 20+M the year before that!!!. we spend closer to the cap floor than cap ceiling.

who could we have obtained? we didn't make an attempt for Barkley? I clearly showed Philly had similar or worse cap situation and they signed barkley. would he have helped? how about getting Henry? they were top 2 in rushing. how about Leanord Williams instead of Joseph? how about making a run at Williams last year? or so on....

on top of that we have GM that likes to keep players, regardless of performance until end of their contracts (he doesn't like to pay twice for the same position). we lost two players on the OL, replaced them with two rookies and Jones clearly said it out loud, he was crossing his fingers the OL would come together and he should have thought better!!!! that's a GM issue.

cap gets manipulated easily. money pushed to the future. all teams do. and they put it all together to win a championship. Rams did it. have a trophy. now they won the division three years later....that's how you reset. that's how you take your cap hits. we could have easily made moves and signed more than a couple of key players to make this team better. but Jones used the cap excuse and you fell for it head first, becaue of your emotional anger and hatred towards Dak. we get it. you don't like him. I don't either. but that has nothing to do with our ability to manuver in FA. its been shown that we can make 3,4 moves and have almost 70M in cap space next year. that puts cowboys among tops to compete in FA. but will they?

I am sure you are going to say, Dak and 17%....we are doomed. we are handicapped. we can't make moves. 17%...cap cap cap

and I don't disagree with you last statement. I wanted us to move from Dak, I think it would have been good for both parties. but didn't happen. the idiot GM dragged the contract literally to the last hour before first game. which freaking GM does that!@@?

and all you all hopefulls think we get cap space and we are going to go hog wild in FA...when did that ever happen with the Joneses? did it happen when Dak was on a 4th round rookie contract? why not?
I think this is fantasy in your head, perhaps you play fantasy football and think NFL and Jones work the same way.

its not about being in better cap position, as I have shown we are better than some of the top competitive teams in the league. its about the willingness of the GM/Owner to actually do something with the cap. the rest is nothing but fantasy.

this debate is done!
 
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