Colin Cowherd: Comparing Purdy's situation to Dak

CarolinaFathead

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Name one major athlete in their prime that has done this. Do not say Tom Brady at the end of his career with his sugar mama.

Also. LOL at your moral imperative.
It’s 100% a moral imperative. It’s ingrained innately in the careers of professional athletes to win titles. That’s the goal and it’s a moral imperative because they are getting paid to achieve that goal. So minimally they have to parse out the best way to win a title. It’s not just about money. I’m a firefighter. I have a moral imperative to accomplish the goals of my job and should strive to do so whether or not I actually pull the baby out of the burning building or not.

Ramirez with the Guardians.

Any other questions?
 

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Yep, this is the hard decision facing teams (and evaluators)..... can you build a team with lesser talent to offset the QB's pay.
I'd argue the principles between Purdy and Dak are similar, the second contracts not so bad as you can restructure into an All-In (like it or not 2023 WAS a Cowboys All-In).

The difference between Purdy and Dak is that he appears less flustered when behind and time is ticking, but the overall consideration's close.
I wonder what contract Purdy would agree to (length being the consideration)?
 

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You mean, unlike us they might have a QB that is self-aware of their talent limits and wants to win?

I'll believe it when I see it.

Its extremely rare for these guys to take less, especially on that first contract after the rookie deal.
 

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It’s 100% a moral imperative. It’s ingrained innately in the careers of professional athletes to win titles. That’s the goal and it’s a moral imperative because they are getting paid to achieve that goal. So minimally they have to parse out the best way to win a title. It’s not just about money. I’m a firefighter. I have a moral imperative to accomplish the goals of my job and should strive to do so whether or not I actually pull the baby out of the burning building or not.

Ramirez with the Guardians.

Any other questions?
You are projecting some very personal feelings onto an entertainment business.

Having to pick a random washed player in a different sport with no salary cap does not make the point you think it does.
 

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You are projecting some very personal feelings onto an entertainment business.

Having to pick a random washed player in a different sport with no salary cap does not make the point you think it does.
You think Ramirez is random and washed lol?

He’s in his prime and he’s a perennial MVP candidate, which matches the parameters you required. It appears you don’t know much. He’s a 40/40 player and was almost a 40/40/40 player this year.

I perfectly elucidated that professional athletes in ALL sports have a moral imperative to maximize their chances to win a title, which is why when you asked for one example of a star taking less money to enhance his team’s financial flexibility to win, I gave you one.

Any other questions or do you just want to keep appealing to emotion while you cart goalposts all over the place?
 
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I feel like he will take less money so he can have players around him.
I think that his TBD. He has already had his right arm take punishment that required surgery. He may also not play next Sunday because that same arm was hurt again Momday night.
 

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Jerry can pay Dak $1 per year or he can pay Dak a hundred million a year. It doesn’t make any difference! From year one until however long he plays in the league, NO team with Dak under center is ever making a playoff run much less winning a SB. How so few, so called fans can’t see Dak for what he is, is beyond me.
 

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Actually the NBA pays everyone. Players like Joker and Giannis make less then Jalen Brown. I would compare Brown to Dak/Purdue while Joker/Giannis is on Mahomes/Jackson/Allen level of player. Brown became the first 300 million dollar contract the offseason before the Celtics won the title.

Jalen Brown won a NBA Finals MVP award.... how do you minimize that? What's better than winning a championship and being declared as the MVP of the championship finals?
 

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You think Ramirez is random and washed lol?

He’s in his prime and he’s a perennial MVP candidate, which matches the parameters you required. It appears you don’t know much. He’s a 40/40 player and was almost a 40/40/40 player this year.

I perfectly elucidated that professional athletes in ALL sports have a moral imperative to maximize their chances to win a title, which is why when you asked for one example of a star taking less money to enhance his team’s financial flexibility to win, I gave you one.

Any other questions or do you just want to keep appealing to emotion while you cart goalposts all over the place?
If he wanted to "maximize his chances to win a title" he would have done what Lindor did and left to become the cornerstone of a contender, right? Your argument lacks any logic in a sport with no cap.

But okay, you found one example, good work.

You are projecting - if anything, these athletes have a "moral imperative" to maximize their earnings for their families and future generations when given the once in a lifetime opportunity, not leave money on the table for the billionaire owners.
 

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Sports are a different animal than a regular job because there is something called championships and legacy that play heavily into a player’s career. Because of that, across all genres of sports, it’s not unusual or unheard of for star players to take less money over the course of a contract in order to maximize the opportunity for a title. As a fan, I expect players like Dak to care about winning as much as they do getting paid. I don’t give two hair’s off a rat’s arse that he historically broke the bank. I care about winning championships and expect players on teams I follow to care about that, too. I personally think there is a moral imperative for professional athletes to pursue championships as diligently and fervently as they do money and they need to properly balance those two things.
I’ve heard players speak on this before….the rings are cool but nobody cares about that legacy talk. That’s for media and fans who never stepped foot on that field. I can’t remember who the player was but they asked would he rather have Eli Manning career or Kirk Cousins and they said Kirk Cousjns. Legacy is overrated.
 

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If he wanted to "maximize his chances to win a title" he would have done what Lindor did and left to become the cornerstone of a contender, right? Your argument lacks any logic in a sport with no cap.

But okay, you found one example, good work.

You are projecting - if anything, these athletes have a "moral imperative" to maximize their earnings for their families and future generations when given the once in a lifetime opportunity, not leave money on the table for the billionaire owners.
Thanks for the compliment lol. It wasn’t hard.

You really don’t seem to understand the very basics of moral philosophy. It’s possible to have two competing moral imperatives. For example, I have a moral imperative to not steal from my neighbor grounded in a normatively accepted social contract. I also have a moral imperative to feed my child. If circumstances deteriorate enough, I could be confronted with the choice to steal from my neighbor to feed my child, which would involve two conflicting moral imperatives. A moral imperative conflicting with another moral imperative doesn’t negate the existence of one of the conflicting imperatives. They both exist in the above scenario, just as professional athletes have multiple moral imperatives revolving around winning titles and providing for their families. I want players on my teams that want to balance those imperatives to maximize winning titles. If players put maximizing their personal needs over winning championships, then go play for another team.
 

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Sports are a different animal than a regular job because there is something called championships and legacy that play heavily into a player’s career. Because of that, across all genres of sports, it’s not unusual or unheard of for star players to take less money over the course of a contract in order to maximize the opportunity for a title. As a fan, I expect players like Dak to care about winning as much as they do getting paid. I don’t give two hair’s off a rat’s arse that he historically broke the bank. I care about winning championships and expect players on teams I follow to care about that, too. I personally think there is a moral imperative for professional athletes to pursue championships as diligently and fervently as they do money and they need to properly balance those two things.
So you who are watching football safely from your couch and not taking any hits wants a guy to risk his life and endure pain for less money. All to give the worst GM in the NFL more money to misuse or not use at all.

Brilliant.
 

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Thanks for the compliment lol. It wasn’t hard.

You really don’t seem to understand the very basics of moral philosophy. It’s possible to have two competing moral imperatives. For example, I have a moral imperative to not steal from my neighbor grounded in a normatively accepted social contract. I also have a moral imperative to feed my child. If circumstances deteriorate enough, I could be confronted with the choice to steal from my neighbor to feed my child, which would involve two conflicting moral imperatives. A moral imperative conflicting with another moral imperative doesn’t negate the existence of one of the conflicting imperatives. They both exist in the above scenario, just as professional athletes have multiple moral imperatives revolving around winning titles and providing for their families. I want players on my teams that want to balance those imperatives to maximize winning titles. If players put maximizing their personal needs over winning championships, then go play for another team.
Playing in any major sport is a job. Their job is to provide you entertainment. That is it. Professional sports is a business to make money.

It is not to make all of your hopes and dreams come true as you attempt to live vicariously through players achievements while sitting on your couch.
 
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