Twitter: Colin: Gap between Dak and Dalton is not massive

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So you will celebrate when Dak is franchised and it further puts this organization backwards given the overwhelmingly lopsided resources spent on offense compared to the defense.....which will lead to more 8-8 or worse seasons with no playoffs.....but no worries as Dak and the other idiots will get paid to do nothing.

How did Brees, Roethlisberger, Brady, and Manning win all those Super Bowls? How did their clubs build teams around them?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It doesn’t bias out play action, because Dak is a top two QB in its usage, next to Goff and he’s awful on his second progression and nobody doubts he has a ‘high completion percentage’ of useless yardage many times. We know he can throw from a quick drop back, when guys are wide open and the blocking is excellent like in these
Clips but he’s severely limited on a traditional drop back, meaning he is actually a severely limited QB.

Reread the tweet it specifically says the stat does not use playaction.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

NE won’t be paying him 35 million a year. They will offer him 20 million a year if he is lucky

No he won't because they would have to compete against the dozen other teams that would be bidding on the best QB to hit the open market in a decade.

 

[USArmyVet]

How did Brees, Roethlisberger, Brady, and Manning win all those Super Bowls? How did their clubs build teams around them?

They took below market deals so as to build the team....something Dak clearly is not willing to do considering Dallas offered him a 5-year deal at around $33M/year.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Dalton gets paid $3,000,000

Dak gets $31,000,000

and they are not far off, Trade dak .

 

[Captain-Crash]

 

[doomsday9084]

How did Brees, Roethlisberger, Brady, and Manning win all those Super Bowls? How did their clubs build teams around them?

This has been posted a lot here so its not news:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/af283d/percentage_of_salary_cap_taken_up_by_super_bowl/

The median there is 6.7% of cap. On a $200m cap that would mean your typical super bowl winning QB would take up about $13.4m of capspace nowadays.

The story there is that QB salaries have really got out of line recently and that QB's on their rookie contracts win a lot of the super bowls.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

This has been posted a lot here so its not news:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/af283d/percentage_of_salary_cap_taken_up_by_super_bowl/

The median there is 6.7% of cap. On a $200m cap that would mean your typical super bowl winning QB would take up about $13.4m of capspace nowadays.

The story there is that QB salaries have really got out of line recently and that QB's on their rookie contracts win a lot of the super bowls.

agreed. 100%

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They took below market deals so as to build the team....something Dak clearly is not willing to do considering Dallas offered him a 5-year deal at around $33M/year.

No, they did not. They would occasionally take salary deductions and often restructures but they all got market setting deals.

Dak isn't going to set the market.

 

[5Stars]

No, they did not. They would occasionally take salary deductions and often restructures but they all got market setting deals.

Dak isn't going to set the market.

lol, check out the Fuzzy throwing out some algebra.

 

[USArmyVet]

No, they did not. They would occasionally take salary deductions and often restructures but they all got market setting deals.

Dak isn't going to set the market.

Sorry but when you spew inaccuracies conversing with you is pointless.

Drew Brees in 2020 signed a 2-year $50M contract.....so in your mind one of the Top 10 QB's in the NFL taking $25M a year is market setting?

 

[khiladi]

Reread the tweet it specifically says the stat does not use playaction.

I know that.. my point is he used play action way more than pretty much every QB besides Goff, who he uses neck and neck with, meaning his passing game is very much depending on it..

Dak is DEPENDENT on it and, completion percentage off quick drop backs from shotgun doesn’t mean he’s good.. or accurate..

 

[ShaneFalco]

I know that.. my point is he used play action way more than pretty much every QB besides Goff, who he uses neck and neck with, meaning his passing game is very much depending on it..

Dak is DEPENDENT on it and, completion percentage off quick drop backs from shotgun doesn’t mean he’s good.. or accurate..

Jake Plummer won some ball games playing that way though.......
LOL

 

[reddyuta]

the gap between an orangutan and this bozo is not that massive either.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I know that.. my point is he used play action way more than pretty much every QB besides Goff, who he uses neck and neck with, meaning his passing game is very much depending on it..

Dak is DEPENDENT on it and, completion percentage off quick drop backs from shotgun doesn’t mean he’s good.. or accurate..

So when you bias out what your narrative says he depended on -that playaction is the reason for his good completion percentage- and it shows youre wrong, you double down.

Whatever man. You just looking for anything to confirm your bias and waste of time to discuss this with.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sorry but when you spew inaccuracies conversing with you is pointless.

Drew Brees in 2020 signed a 2-year $50M contract.....so in your mind one of the Top 10 QB's in the NFL taking $25M a year is market setting?

He was 41 years old when he signed the contract. I was talking about his prime years. You need to keep up with what the discussion has been. At the very least compare apples to apples.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

They took below market deals so as to build the team....something Dak clearly is not willing to do considering Dallas offered him a 5-year deal at around $33M/year.

uhhh, hmmm, well, you are wrong. they took the market deal...

Dak wanted a 4 year deal....Jerry the idiot wouldn't budge.....

 

[khiladi]

So when you bias out what your narrative says he depended on -that playaction is the reason for his good completion percentage- and it shows youre wrong, you double down.

Whatever man. You just looking for anything to confirm your bias and waste of time to discuss this with.

Where was I wrong? I said it doesn’t bias it out, because Dak throws play action more than pretty much every QB in the NFL BY FAR. Dak’s passing is highly dependent on play action, irrespective of his ‘completion percentage’ on drop backs.

Nor does completion percentage mean anything for this argument, because we know Dak throws at a higher completion percentage. We also know he plays it safe in clutch time and against zone for his career.

We also know this playing with stats is garbage, because unlike other QBs, Dak hardly throws out of the traditional drop back unlike other QBs, meaning his completion percentage is obfuscated by this facf, because this stat overall includes these drop backs for other QBs.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Sorry but when you spew inaccuracies conversing with you is pointless.

Drew Brees in 2020 signed a 2-year $50M contract.....so in your mind one of the Top 10 QB's in the NFL taking $25M a year is market setting?

Brees is 41. last contract. has had couple or three large contracts in his career. wants another superbowl...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dalton gets paid $3,000,000

Dak gets $31,000,000

and they are not far off, Trade dak .

they are not far off...according to Cowturd...LOL funny one Bob...really funny