Combine Chatter Thread

[JPostSam]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...henry-weighed-in-at-247-pounds-at-nfl-combine



I'd love to get Henry simply to see him run through a couple guys a game, but I just don't think he has the necessary. He is going to make a lot of defenders look like children though.

"Mike Jenkins vs. Derrick Henry, a True David & Goliath Story."

henry can run. and he's tall, so he carries his weight well.

defenses are not going to enjoy playing against this dude.

 

[texbumthelife]

The heavy HGH users I know all had their hands, feet, heads grow.
The heqavy Roids users I know just grew

The real heavy HGH and Roid users looked a bit like Henry, yes.

Henry is more reminiscent of what an anabolic steroid user might look like. Go down to your local power lifting gym (not Lifetime Fitness or Golds, the real deal) and shake hands with some guys. Their hands are thick, solid muscle, but usually disproportionately small in length. I am 6' with slightly above average hands and my hands swallow many power lifters hands of my height.

Obviously nothing is 100% tried and true. My observations are just based off of working in the power lifting/gym industry as well as my time as an athlete.

Clearly genetics has a lot to do with it too. It's just hard to ignore when a guy shows literally every known side effect of PEDs/Steroids. I would all but guarantee he's used Antler velvet. It was huge in his area while he was in HS.

 

[JPostSam]

Hackenburg also has 9' hands as well.

That is the basic cut off, so it is doubtful they get dinged severely.

9 foot hands!!!

i kid, i kid.

 

[JPostSam]

Henry is more reminiscent of what an anabolic steroid user might look like. Go down to your local power lifting gym (not Lifetime Fitness or Golds, the real deal) and shake hands with some guys. Their hands are thick, solid muscle, but usually disproportionately small in length. I am 6' with slightly above average hands and my hands swallow many power lifters hands of my height.

Obviously nothing is 100% tried and true. My observations are just based off of working in the power lifting/gym industry as well as my time as an athlete.

Clearly genetics has a lot to do with it too. It's just hard to ignore when a guy shows literally every known side effect of PEDs/Steroids. I would all but guarantee he's used Antler velvet. It was huge in his area while he was in HS.

please tell me you're joking.

most body builders have shorter, squatter frames because long frames make muscles look smaller/thinner. meaning, if you're tall and narrow, you're still going to look thin (by comparison), even if you have a lot of muscle. so, you're not going to become a body builder.

a lot of power lifters have shorter, but thicker bones, but they have advantages in leverage.

i don't want my athletes to look like jj walker, just because he has long, spindly fingers.

DYNOMITE!!!

 

[Alexander]

This was amazing to me.

I guess it really is a meat market and it makes you feel bad for these 20 something kids running through this kind of thing.

 

[texbumthelife]

please tell me you're joking.

most body builders have shorter, squatter frames because long frames make muscles look smaller/thinner. meaning, if you're tall and narrow, you're still going to look thin (by comparison), even if you have a lot of muscle. so, you're not going to become a body builder.

a lot of power lifters have shorter, but thicker bones, but they have advantages in leverage.

i don't want my athletes to look like jj walker, just because he has long, spindly fingers.

DYNOMITE!!!

Which why I didn't just say "small". I said disproportionate to their bodies. You know, like a 5'9" man with the hand length of a 5'4" man, etc. Proportionately.

 

[texbumthelife]

This was amazing to me.

I guess it really is a meat market and it makes you feel bad for these 20 something kids running through this kind of thing.

If only god cared as much about his education and grammar as he did about his football ability. Priorities, god!

 

[RoboQB]

I really the idea of drafting Adams to be the backup QB. I spend a 5th

That kid put on a show in the East-West Shrine Game... looked like Russell Wilson out there.

 

[KingintheNorth]

That kid put on a show in the East-West Shrine Game... looked like Russell Wilson out there.

Vernon is a world class headcase. Pass.

 

[reddyuta]

Vernon is a world class headcase. Pass.

What have you heard??

 

[RoboQB]

Vernon is a world class headcase. Pass.

Really? I missed that tidbit... can you give an example?... QB head cases are the worst... Jeff George and Ryan Leaf immediately come to mind.

I remember someone once said George had a million dollar arm and a 10 cent brain... and everyone concurred.

 

[texbumthelife]

Vernon is a world class headcase. Pass.

Haven't heard this either. Links to stories?

 

[KingintheNorth]

What have you heard??

I coached a player who bounced back from Eastern Washington and know a few of their coaches. The book on Adams is that he is overly competitive (which I know doesn't sound like the worst thing in the world) but also shuts down like a child when things don't go his way.

 

[Risen Star]

This was amazing to me.

I guess it really is a meat market and it makes you feel bad for these 20 something kids running through this kind of thing.

Yes, these poor kids. Auditioning to play football for a living.

Maybe we can put a support group together so they can talk about their feelings.

Pfffffft.

 

[Avery]

Outside of hand sizes, what's interesting to me is how much bigger guys are getting at the QB position. The majority of these guys are =>230 lbs. which is a lot different than the 200 - 225 range that dominated football in the past.

 

[Risen Star]

The thing with Henry is how does he age in the NFL? I can foresee a very Marion Barber-ish type career where the pick looks good initially and then the player falls off a cliff by the end of his first contract. If he is truly a one contract RB, I don't think you want to burn a 1st or 2nd round pick on him. He's straight line-ish, you'll have to worry about his weight. I'm just not all that much of a fan of his NFL potential.

 

[Risen Star]

Outside of hand sizes, what's interesting to me is how much bigger guys are getting at the QB position. The majority of these guys are =>230 lbs. which is a lot different than the 200 - 225 range that dominated football in the past.

Just say it.

Roger Staubach couldn't play in today's league.

 

[Risen Star]

Braxton Miller will be another Randall Cobb, IMO.

 

[Risen Star]

 

[Risen Star]

He fed every last one of them.