Combine chatter....

[Nirvana]

Josh Shaw looks chiseled from granite. Intriguing player. Not sure at what point he is worth the risk - 4th round?

 

[BAT]

40 Yard (Official)   10 Yard   Height   Weight   Name
4.31  1.53  6001  186  Waynes,  Trae
4.36  1.54  6005  191  Cox,  Justin
4.38  1.47  5105  193  Darby,  Ronald
4.44  1.53  5097  180  Gaines,  Charles
4.44  1.55  5102  200  Grant,  Doran
4.44  1.64  5114  201  Mager,  Craig
4.44  1.54  6004  201  Shaw,  Josh
4.45  1.57  6006  205  Rowe,  Eric
4.45  1.60  5100  187  Smith,  D'Joun
4.46  1.60  5085  176  Golson,  Senquez
4.46  1.56  5107  196  Randall,  Damarious
4.48  1.50  6014  203  Collins,  Jalen
4.49  1.60  5101  197  Nelson,  Steven
4.50  1.58  5103  182  Doss,  Lorenzo
4.50  1.60  6000  189  Swann,  Damian
4.51  1.63  6001  196  Carter,  Alex
4.51  1.60  5094  195  McCain,  Bobby
4.52  1.62  6002  188  Johnson,  Kevin
4.53  1.56  5110  185  Coleman,  Justin
4.53  1.68  6000  228  Collins,  Landon
4.53  1.61  5115  197  Peters,  Marcus
4.53  1.63  6013  221  Tartt,  Jaquiski
4.55  1.53  6015  218  Geathers,  Clayton
4.55  1.61  5104  182  Hill,  Troy
4.56  1.50  6004  218  Amos,  Adrian
4.56  1.65  5091  196  Diggs,  Quandre
4.56  1.60  6021  209  Sample,  James
4.57  1.59  5097  200  Jarrett,  Kyshoen
4.57  1.61  5111  195  Rollins,  Quinten
4.57  1.56  6000  194  Williams,  P.J.
4.58  1.62  6014  203  Marlowe,  Dean
4.58  1.66  6020  205  Wilson,  Julian
4.59  1.64  5110  197  Whitehead,  Jermaine
4.60  1.64  6020  208  Prewitt,  Cody
4.60  1.62  6001  195  Smith,  Tye
4.61  1.58  5116  191  Peters,  Garry
4.62  1.64  5107  194  Celiscar,  D.C.
4.63  1.50  6027  208  Eskridge,  Durell
4.63  1.61  5113  195  McDonald,  Tevin
4.63  1.56  5091  183  White,  Kevin
4.64  1.56  6000  179  Glenn,  Jacoby
4.65  1.73  6005  208  Drummond,  Kurtis
4.65  1.63  5106  211  Richards,  Jordan
4.69  1.66  6014  202  Gunter,  Ladarius
4.72  1.65  6007  198  Jefferson,  A.J.
4.81  1.71  6002  195  Hackett,  Chris

Ron Darby, Adrian Amos and Durrell Eskridge 10 yard times are impressive. And 2 of those guys are safeties.

 

[texbumthelife]

Just looked up Bud Dupree thanks to this thread. His first step

He is an absolute blur. I don't care if he is a tweener. He has Von Miller written all over him. You find ways to get him on the field.

 

[AzorAhai]

Just looked up Bud Dupree thanks to this thread. His first step

He is an absolute blur. I don't care if he is a tweener. He has Von Miller written all over him. You find ways to get him on the field.

I don't think he is a tweener and if he is its not bad. He has pretty good weight for a 4-3 DE at 267. His wingspan isn't exceptional but I'm more than ok with his weight and think he could add a few pounds if needed.

 

[DFWJC]

Just looked up Bud Dupree thanks to this thread. His first step

He is an absolute blur. I don't care if he is a tweener. He has Von Miller written all over him. You find ways to get him on the field.

Wish he'd fall to us

 

[Floatyworm]

Paul "Floaty" Dawson 4.95 pulling up.

Yup....I deserved that one.....

Beyond ticked off after seeing him w/o the pads.

I wouldn't even draft him now. So disappointed

 

[Floatyworm]

I think a trade down is more likely this year. I for one would welcome it if the board is cleaned out.

Gotta have someone to trade w/....and that was the problem I had in the MK draft. No one wanted to move up....and It wasn't for a lack of trying to move down. Hopefully if that is the Cowboys plan...they have better luck than me.

 

[Floatyworm]

These TCU guys,don't know what to make of it really.

How about they lie?

 

[Risen Star]

Yup....I deserved that one.....

Beyond ticked off after seeing him w/o the pads.

I wouldn't even draft him now. So disappointed

You went from taking him in the first round to not wanting to draft him at all after a bad workout?

 

[Floatyworm]

You went from taking him in the first round to not wanting to draft him at all after a bad workout?

His listed height @ the TCU website was 6'2.......He's barely 6 @ the combine. So he's not a strong side LBer in the pros....that's what I thought he was.

He's alot slower than I thought he was. I was expecting 4.6ish.....But 4.95???

But what may have bothered me the most was his body language. It was as if he really didn't even want to be there and compete. So why show up?

That pulling up in the 40....really bothers me. It was as if he quit. Was he hurt????? Didn't seem like it because he did the other drills.

And add in his body composition.....The guy looks like he's got a beer belly going already. So disappointing

You read up on guys....watch tape.....highlight reels....ect. I've come the conclusion....You just don't know what to believe anymore. You just can't tell between what is

the truth and what is lies without knowing the player personally.

 

[rkell87]

Ron Darby, Adrian Amos and Durrell Eskridge 10 yard times are impressive. And 2 of those guys are safeties.

You forgot Jalen Collins

 

[BAT]

You forgot Jalen Collins

Yep. Try to take wait and see attitude with LSU corners. Waiting on his Wonderlic first before I let him get me all excited.

 

[Hoofbite]

Guess one of the invites may have broken the world record for standing long jump.

Pretty cool to take that home with you.

 

[reddyuta]

Yep. Try to take wait and see attitude with LSU corners. Waiting on his Wonderlic first before I let him get me all excited.

i wonder if i can get more than 4 in the wonderlic if i totally pick at random,no more dumb players please.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Try to take wait and see attitude with LSU corners. Waiting on his Wonderlic first before I let him get me all excited.

To bundle up those guys with Mo is wrong. It's not their fault Mo just walked in, wrote down his name and turned around and walked out without answering any of the questions.

 

[Risen Star]

His listed height @ the TCU website was 6'2.......He's barely 6 @ the combine. So he's not a strong side LBer in the pros....that's what I thought he was.

He's alot slower than I thought he was. I was expecting 4.6ish.....But 4.95???

But what may have bothered me the most was his body language. It was as if he really didn't even want to be there and compete. So why show up?

That pulling up in the 40....really bothers me. It was as if he quit. Was he hurt????? Didn't seem like it because he did the other drills.

And add in his body composition.....The guy looks like he's got a beer belly going already. So disappointing

You read up on guys....watch tape.....highlight reels....ect. I've come the conclusion....You just don't know what to believe anymore. You just can't tell between what is

the truth and what is lies without knowing the player personally.

It was alarming. The workout wouldn't keep me from drafting him, but the lackadaisical attitude toward the workout, the biggest job audition of his life, and his dismissive comments about his past issues at TCU being chronically late to team functions would.

You have to question a player's mental state when they show up at the combine like that.

 

[DFWJC]

His listed height @ the TCU website was 6'2.......He's barely 6 @ the combine. So he's not a strong side LBer in the pros....that's what I thought he was.

He's alot slower than I thought he was. I was expecting 4.6ish.....But 4.95???

But what may have bothered me the most was his body language. It was as if he really didn't even want to be there and compete. So why show up?

That pulling up in the 40....really bothers me. It was as if he quit. Was he hurt????? Didn't seem like it because he did the other drills.

And add in his body composition.....The guy looks like he's got a beer belly going already. So disappointing

You read up on guys....watch tape.....highlight reels....ect. I've come the conclusion....You just don't know what to believe anymore. You just can't tell between what is

the truth and what is lies without knowing the player personally.

You were kind of in a tough spot there. A trade down would have decant, like you said.
Any consideration of taking Eddie Goldman?

Can't say I liked when you took Dawson in the first (it was in contention for my reach award) but I bet he ends up being a decent to good NFL player.

fwiw, I looked back at my draft in 2013 and is was legendarily bad. 2014 was ok though.

 

[xwalker]

Ron Darby, Adrian Amos and Durrell Eskridge 10 yard times are impressive. And 2 of those guys are safeties.

Rowe is also an interesting possibility as a FS. He played both Safety and CB in college. He had an excellent combine.

 

[xwalker]

Just looked up Bud Dupree thanks to this thread. His first step

He is an absolute blur. I don't care if he is a tweener. He has Von Miller written all over him. You find ways to get him on the field.

Dupree weighed in at 269 pounds. That's not really a tweener to me. Yes, maybe he can play as an OLB in a 3-4 but he has ideal size as a 4-3 DE. Von Miller was 246 at the combine.

 

[Floatyworm]

You were kind of in a tough spot there. A trade down would have decant, like you said.
Any consideration of taking Eddie Goldman?

Can't say I liked when you took Dawson in the first (it was in contention for my reach award) but I bet he ends up being a decent to good NFL player.

fwiw, I looked back at my draft in 2013 and is was legendarily bad. 2014 was ok though.

Nope.....I didn't have Goldman as a consideration. I actually thought Josh Brent played alright...and by taking Goldman.....your getting more of the same. I almost took WR Green-Beckham though......I was that close. Had his name and photo already to send.....But then backed off because I had a plan of taking a Tackle in round 2 (Williams/Cedric Ogbuehi T Texas A&M/Fisher-Oregon)....And that would have ment 2 offensive players being selected in a row...which I 'm sure would have created quite a stir. So I took what I thought @ the time was the safest defensive player. Only to have everything I read up on the player to be a lie......and then Dawson bombs @ the combine.