Come Clean

[jterrell]

& this folks is why I laugh at the people that think we would have been fine with knucklehead Randle. The denial is so deeply embedded that it even leads you to believe the extreme scheme change didn't matter. The responses are pretty hilarious. Please keep them coming.

Again, one last time for those that just don't get it, Demarco fit nicely right where he was right there behind our line. As I stated last year, letting him go without finding a way to meet in the middle is one if the biggest mistakes in the history of the franchise.

Screw knucklehead Randle. That clown has me fired up again about the whole Demarco debacle........ I let it go months ago.....

Murray has 1 great season to his career, 1 good season and 3 average seasons.
DMC put up a top 5 rushing effort and you are labeling it average...
Murray had one great year but FUMBLED away the biggest game of the year (and the Cowboys last 20 seasons) and you want to label him some team-defining back.

He is not worth 6m a year much less 8.
This is one thing the Dallas FO got 10000% right. They learned from Marion Barber. RBs do NOT last.
Chip Kelly in signing Murray got himself fired.
Your takes and obvious avoidance of even basic logic should get you banned.

Murray had a supremely great season behind the best OL in football with a top 5 QB and a top 5 WR.
Last year we had Dez hurt all year, the OL limped into the season and Romo was healthy for about 2 games.
Who knows what Murray would have done. He's never played with a QB and offense overall as poor as what Dallas had last year.

Only a complete crackhead gives Murray the contract he got from Philly.
That's why he lost all GM/personnel control and likely never gets it again.
It was a personnel career ending decision.
Your take should be a forum posting career ender as well.

 

[Bleu Star]

No, it has been firmly established that if you wanted murray to walk, you were wrong. That the dallas passing game ceased to exist and murray clearly had no legs doesnt matter. Youre wrong, and im going to keep saying this until it sticks!

It stuck ages ago when moves were made to avoid negotiating with Demarco due to confidence that Felicia could easily fill his shoes (that same confidence echoed loudly here).

 

[Bleu Star]

Only a complete crackhead gives Murray the contract he got from Philly.
That's why he lost all GM/personnel control and likely never gets it again.
It was a personnel career ending decision.
Your take should be a forum posting career ender as well.

Only a complete crackhead doesn't negotiate with the guy that, combined with our emerging oline, led us to the playoffs.

Negotiate. It's quite a powerful word.

Who knows what Murray would have done. He's never played with a QB and offense overall as poor as what Dallas had last year.

Ahhhh.... hmmmm. Who knows? I'll tell you what we do know. Murray doesn't fit into the cracker jack scheme they ran in Philly.

 

[manster4ever]

C'mon, How many of you insisted that Joseph Randle was the answer after Murray was signed away by the Eagles.

How many of you went for that whole "left meat on the bone" smack from Klepto Joe?

How many of you posted that Randle was going to help the Cowboys prove Murray was just an average back and it was all the offensive line by delivering favorable numbers. Nobody said a repeat of Murray's season, of course. But did you insist that he was going to be a successful element of the "RB by committee" approach this season?

If so, do you still believe it was a good idea to get rid of Murray? Do you feel as though McFadden can fill the void now that he's had a full season on the team?

I think everyone knows where I have always stood but so you don't think I consider myself a football oracle, just so you know I'm just looking for some fun, let me make this easier by revisiting other predictions I once made:

I predicted that Stephen McGee would be a great quarterback and if Romo was ever out an extended period of time with McGee as his backup, he might not get his job back.

I predicted that Bruce Carter would be the next Ken Norton.

I predicted that Escobar would have a breakout season in 2015.

See, it's easy. Come clean.

I said from day one that he was drafted that his ceiling was a 3rd down back, change of pace kind of guy. The fact the organization thought he was so much better and let Murray go shows how inept they are.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well, my signature is a testament to how wrong I was about Jason Garrett. I allow it to remain to show I don't run from my predictions.
I'll eventually change it.

 

[Bleu Star]

I said from day one that he was drafted that his ceiling was a 3rd down back, change of pace kind of guy. The fact the organization thought he was so much better and let Murray go shows how inept they are.

Thank you.....

A moment of clarity.

 

[Doomsday101]

Only a complete crackhead doesn't negotiate with the guy that, combined with our emerging oline, led us to the playoffs.

Negotiate. It's quite a powerful word.

I agree, I think Dallas could have resigned Murray to less than the 8 mill he ended up getting had Dallas made a quality offer before he hit the FA market. Dallas went to 6 mill from my understanding only after Oakland and Philly were offering much more. From a business stand point I think Murray did was right but again I think had Dallas been offering that 6 mill early on he would have stayed. JMO

 

[Bleu Star]

I agree, I think Dallas could have resigned Murray to less than the 8 mill he ended up getting had Dallas made a quality offer before he hit the FA market. Dallas went to 6 mill from my understanding only after Oakland and Philly were offering much more. From a business stand point I think Murray did was right but again I think had Dallas been offering that 6 mill early on he would have stayed. JMO

They took a stupid hard stand and refused to negotiate. Dumbest decision ever.

 

[Doomsday101]

They took a stupid hard stand and refused to negotiate. Dumbest decision ever.

I agree I think they could have kept him at what I felt would be a reasonable amount had they put up a quality offer before he ever hit FA

 

[jterrell]

Only a complete crackhead doesn't negotiate with the guy that, combined with our emerging oline, led us to the playoffs.

Negotiate. It's quite a powerful word.

They did negotiate. For well over a year. Murray wanted top-line RB money and he was never getting it here.

8 RBs made more than 5M last year. Of those 8, 1 is Murray who bombed, AT LEAST 2 are being cut this off-season(Forte, Foster) and 1(Beast Mode) is retiring.

YOU DO NOT PAY RB! 1 guy this decade has bucked that trend: AD. And he has about as many playoff victories as you or me.

History is there for anyone with a brain to look at. The track record in following seasons of backs who surpass 350 carries isn't just bad, it's depressing.
Murray had never had more than 217 carries in a year, then they fed him and used him up and with defenses worried about Romo and Dez he did a great job aside from some key fumbles. But it was ONE YEAR. A supreme outlier.
The chances of him ever repeating that were 1 in a million.

Instead he had BY FAR the worst year of his career. As history suggests many RB do after a year of ~400 carries.

Guaranteeing Murray 18 million was the single stupidest move of the entire last off-season. He was the Eagles least effective RB at a pathetic 3.6 yards per carry.

Anyone still arguing Dallas should have paid him is clueless to the nth degree.

 

[coult44]

So I can find posts of you chirping-up about this during the previous off-seasons in opposition of the optimistic view that Johnson could finally be the FS that we need? The search function only goes back so far, so I will have to rely on you being an honest John in your response.

I've known and followed his career since he was a soph in HS. What would you like to know? I've had the sNe feelings about him the whole time. 1000% honest

 

[RJ_MacReady]

I've known and followed his career since he was a soph in HS. What would you like to know? I've had the sNe feelings about him the whole time. 1000% honest

Were you the poster that talked about him and his brother having bad reputations in High School? I remember, after Matt was released, that someone spilled the beans about his time in in High school (Washington?).

 

[coult44]

Were you the poster that talked about him and his brother having bad reputations in High School? I remember, after Matt was released, that someone spilled the beans about his time in in High school (Washington?).

II've heard that, but my comments have been about his play, his injuries, work ethic, attitude,

 

[RJ_MacReady]

II've heard that, but my comments have been about his play, his injuries, work ethic, attitude,

Roger that. I was sitting coach on the Johnson bandwagon and probably over-looked any detracting post at the time. In hind sight, you were correct. I think the hype was because so many were desperate for a FS/SS to come in and give us some average play instead of Sensabaugh and McCray.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I never believed Randle was Murray. I also never believed we should be so stupid as to pay 8 million for Murray. At the end of the day, Randle was no Murray but Murray was also no AD.

 

[Craig]

I will never get tired of people crying sbout dallas missing murray this year as if he would have made a difference. They rode him till the wheels fell off and thats what happened, just like every other player that has had a workload like that. Maybe he'll bounce back next year coming off the work he had this year. If he does, he'll still be overpaid.

DMC put up high end numbers

 

[coult44]

Roger that. I was sitting coach on the Johnson bandwagon and probably over-looked any detracting post at the time. In hind sight, you were correct. I think the hype was because so many were desperate for a FS/SS to come in and give us some average play instead of Sensabaugh and McCray.

Completely agree. I wanted him to do well, would've been a cool story for people around here in Seahawk country who are also EWU fans. I would've loved to see some of them have to cheer for a Cowboy.

 

[Nightman]

I will never get tired of people crying sbout dallas missing murray this year as if he would have made a difference. They rode him till the wheels fell off and thats what happened, just like every other player that has had a workload like that. Maybe he'll bounce back next year coming off the work he had this year. If he does, he'll still be overpaid.

DMC put up high end numbers

You talk about selling a story and then try to sell the biggest whopper of them all.

The fact is Murray was a perfect fit for us and a terrible fit for PHI. His struggles had nothing to do with his legs. It was Chip Kelly.

DMC put up very average numbers. 800 yards and 10 TDs is how far behind Murray he finished. What he got paid is irrelevant. We don't win games based on value. We win based on production. They intentionally got worse at RB and you guys keep defending them.

 

[Nightman]

Cap Hits

Murray...4m
Randle...700k
Rawls .....500k
UDFA......500k
Total.......5.7m

McFadden....1.2m
Randle..........700k
Micheal.........700k + 7th round pick
Dunbar.........1.5m
Total...........4.1m

So for 1.6m in cap space we could have option 1 and been set at RB for 3-4 years

 

[DallasDomination]

Where's my crow? I got my plate ready.