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I was screaming from the rooftops that letting Murray go and replacing him with Randle and DMC was a huge mistake. It was a bad decision the moment it was made because it came from hubris.

The FO wanted to prove that anyone could run behind the great OL they put together and why JJones won FO on the Year. It was a decision to get intentionally worse on a whim.

Anyone that thinks what Murray did in Philly is some kind of vindication are fooling themselves. Just like those that think DMC had a good year. IF Murray ran for 1089 yards and 3 TDs this place would be screaming at the drop-off.

Instead they are left trying to make make excuses for DMC's very average year.

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I didn't know if Randle could be the one guy but I wasn't worried about losing Murray because I knew our runningbacks could get the job done behind this line. McFadden proved that he could. If he'd been starting all along he'd have had a very good year.
 

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This thread deserves an appearance by my boy Bobby.

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I never wanted to lose Murray, but I thought that Randle would have fared quite well behind this line. I didn't think he'd have the same success that Murray had, but I thought he would have at the very least, been a Julius Jones or someone of that caliber.
 

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I was one. I still believe Randle had the talent, he just didn't have the brain.

^^^ This. I believe that a Joseph Randle with a Jerry Rice attitude and work ethic would have a long and prosperous NFL career. The kid has ability. He's just squandering it by acting like a punk.
 

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Aversion at its finest. Nice work.
good luck finding me saying one positive thing about randle's game ever. Nice work.

No one talking a out walking away from murray cared about randle. They cared about spending recklessly, and keeping murray would have been insanely reckless.
 
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I never saw the talent in Randle. He doesnt have any skill that translates into being a HB with meaningful carries in the NFL. His best traits as a HB being quickness and vision hr was only adequate IMO. His 2014 usage was about all anyone shoulf have ever asked of him.

To me Randle was a shining example of the FO drinking its own koolaide, both in the OL manufacturing backs, as well as in the on hand talent
 

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I didn't. I didn't like or trust him......I was not happy we drafted him.
 

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C'mon, How many of you insisted that Joseph Randle was the answer after Murray was signed away by the Eagles.

How many of you went for that whole "left meat on the bone" smack from Klepto Joe?

How many of you posted that Randle was going to help the Cowboys prove Murray was just an average back and it was all the offensive line by delivering favorable numbers. Nobody said a repeat of Murray's season, of course. But did you insist that he was going to be a successful element of the "RB by committee" approach this season?

If so, do you still believe it was a good idea to get rid of Murray? Do you feel as though McFadden can fill the void now that he's had a full season on the team?

I think everyone knows where I have always stood but so you don't think I consider myself a football oracle, just so you know I'm just looking for some fun, let me make this easier by revisiting other predictions I once made:

I predicted that Stephen McGee would be a great quarterback and if Romo was ever out an extended period of time with McGee as his backup, he might not get his job back.

I predicted that Bruce Carter would be the next Ken Norton.

I predicted that Escobar would have a breakout season in 2015.

See, it's easy. Come clean.

I absolutely believed that Randle was going to be much more than adequate this past season, based on what he did as a backup last season. We had nothing else to go on. In fact, I believe Randle STILL has the talent to be a very effective RB. He doesn't possess the mental know-how to be able to handle it, however.

I absolutely believe the Cowboys were right to let Murray walk, and I still do. No running back - with the possible exception of Adrian Peterson - is worthy of $8m a season, especially coming off a season where he was beaten to a pulp. Murray would have struggled just as much in Dallas this season as he did in Philadelphia.
 

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C'mon, How many of you insisted that Joseph Randle was the answer after Murray was signed away by the Eagles.

How many of you went for that whole "left meat on the bone" smack from Klepto Joe?

How many of you posted that Randle was going to help the Cowboys prove Murray was just an average back and it was all the offensive line by delivering favorable numbers. Nobody said a repeat of Murray's season, of course. But did you insist that he was going to be a successful element of the "RB by committee" approach this season?

If so, do you still believe it was a good idea to get rid of Murray? Do you feel as though McFadden can fill the void now that he's had a full season on the team?

I think everyone knows where I have always stood but so you don't think I consider myself a football oracle, just so you know I'm just looking for some fun, let me make this easier by revisiting other predictions I once made:

I predicted that Stephen McGee would be a great quarterback and if Romo was ever out an extended period of time with McGee as his backup, he might not get his job back.

I predicted that Bruce Carter would be the next Ken Norton.

I predicted that Escobar would have a breakout season in 2015.

See, it's easy. Come clean.

I'll bite because I'm bored :) I was very happy when we jumped up to get Mo. I thought he was the next great Prime type player.
 

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Honestly? Why? Same in Dallas as he was in HS and college.

So I can find posts of you chirping-up about this during the previous off-seasons in opposition of the optimistic view that Johnson could finally be the FS that we need? The search function only goes back so far, so I will have to rely on you being an honest John in your response.
 

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Murray would have struggled just as much in Dallas this season as he did in Philadelphia.

& this folks is why I laugh at the people that think we would have been fine with knucklehead Randle. The denial is so deeply embedded that it even leads you to believe the extreme scheme change didn't matter. The responses are pretty hilarious. Please keep them coming.

Again, one last time for those that just don't get it, Demarco fit nicely right where he was right there behind our line. As I stated last year, letting him go without finding a way to meet in the middle is one if the biggest mistakes in the history of the franchise.

Screw knucklehead Randle. That clown has me fired up again about the whole Demarco debacle........ I let it go months ago.....
 

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It doesn't really matter what we thought. We're just fans. We're not paid handsomely to make these types of decisions. What's disturbing is the people who spent time with him and had daily interactions with him felt he was a decent alternative. These same decision makers are the ones we're supposed to have faith in to get us to a Super Bowl in the next few years. :facepalm:

Yea but isn't that like blaming the patriots FO, and Bill Belichick for drafting, and paying Aaron Hernandez...shouldn't the guys highly paid know that he was a wanna be thug who went around killing people.
 

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I definitely had my doubts that Randle would manage to fill the bill as our lead back.

As a complementary back to DeMarco, he was quite exceptional.

When it came time to lead the way, not so much.

I had hopes but that's about all.
 
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I was one of those that thought Randle might be just what this team needed. I liked his patience and ability to quickly hit the hole in the zone blocking scheme. I thought we would see alot of runs like we saw inthe first quarter of the Falcons game. I also wanted to draft a RB early in the 2015 draft (I was hoping for Duke Johnson). Having said all that I was worried about his off field issues. I was hoping and praying that the embarrassment of the shoplifting incident would cause him to realize that he was not above the law.

Disregarding the off field stuff, we really don't know exactly how good he could have been with a healthy Dez and Romo. And that is the sad part in all of this. Joseph Randle himself will carry that thought with him the rest of his life as well.
 

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I believe I had posted that he could put up about 1,200 yds and McFad would get about 1,000. Granted nobody expected to lose both Dez and Romo so that kinda sques everything and makes this all a moot point...
 

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I believe I had posted that he could put up about 1,200 yds and McFad would get about 1,000. Granted nobody expected to lose both Dez and Romo so that kinda sques everything and makes this all a moot point...

No, it has been firmly established that if you wanted murray to walk, you were wrong. That the dallas passing game ceased to exist and murray clearly had no legs doesnt matter. Youre wrong, and im going to keep saying this until it sticks!
 
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