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Ever hear of Sucker Punch?

As far as Warner Bros goes, he was given the keys to the castle for the DC films. They had hoped that he could do for them what Kevin Feige and Joss Whedon did for Disney/Marvel.
Sucker Punch not so much but Watchmen, Dawn of the Dead and 300 were received well. I think it will do well in Gunns hands but I think DC’s issue is Batman and Superman is becoming tired. Keep Batman and Joker as standalone films and build a world with lesser known characters.
 

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Sucker Punch not so much but Watchmen, Dawn of the Dead and 300 were received well.
Watchmen was not a box office success either.

I think it will do well in Gunns hands but I think DC’s issue is Batman and Superman is becoming tired. Keep Batman and Joker as standalone films and build a world with lesser known characters.
At this point, I have little faith in a turnaround. WB/Discovery could end up losing $1 billion on the four latest DC films.

And I’m not sure that Gunn can quickly change the awful momentum.

Regardless, the Snyderverse’s legacy is a failure.
 

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Watchmen was not a box office success either.


At this point, I have little faith in a turnaround. WB/Discovery could end up losing $1 billion on the four latest DC films.

And I’m not sure that Gunn can quickly change the awful momentum.

Regardless, the Snyderverse’s legacy is a failure.
Watchmen wasn’t a box office smash but it is one of the highest grossing R Rated superhero films of all time. It was well received and has aged well. Also resulted in a spin off series on HBO.

Snyderverse was a failure for sure. I don’t know about recouping what was lost but we know the Joker film is going to do well as Will Batman.

First step was starting over. No matter how good the films were or how bad they have to get the stench off of them. Curious to see what Blue Beetle does.
 

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Watchmen wasn’t a box office smash but it is one of the highest grossing R Rated superhero films of all time. It was well received and has aged well. Also resulted in a spin off series on HBO.
The film underperformed at the box office, grossing over $185 million worldwide against a production budget between $130–138 million.

Snyderverse was a failure for sure. I don’t know about recouping what was lost but we know the Joker film is going to do well as Will Batman.

First step was starting over. No matter how good the films were or how bad they have to get the stench off of them. Curious to see what Blue Beetle does.
My opinion is that Blue Beetle will be the biggest disappointment of this recent disappointing group of releases. I think it will do worse than Black Adam, Shazam Fury of the Gods, and the Flash.
 

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The film underperformed at the box office, grossing over $185 million worldwide against a production budget between $130–138 million.


My opinion is that Blue Beetle will be the biggest disappointment of this recent disappointing group of releases. I think it will do worse than Black Adam, Shazam Fury of the Gods, and the Flash.
Possibly. They at least had a modest budget as opposed to something over 200 million so might work in its favor. If we are being honest it seems like box office is taking a hit this summer.

And Watchmen flopped because of budget but the ceiling wasn’t very high for a r rated comic book movie that mainstream moviegoers didn’t really know. That’s why the Blade movies did so well. They knew their budget and market.
 

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Possibly. They at least had a modest budget as opposed to something over 200 million so might work in its favor. If we are being honest it seems like box office is taking a hit this summer.

Very much so and that saddens me. The latest Indiana Jones movie is doing poorly and I thought it deserved a better fate.

I’m a big movie fan and I worry that it’s going to be negatively affected in a big way.
And Watchmen flopped because of budget but the ceiling wasn’t very high for a r rated comic book movie that mainstream moviegoers didn’t really know. That’s why the Blade movies did so well. They knew their budget and market.
 

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My opinion is that Blue Beetle will be the biggest disappointment of this recent disappointing group of releases. I think it will do worse than Black Adam, Shazam Fury of the Gods, and the Flash.
I am definitely in wait-and-see mode. Blue Beetle would not surprise me though if it performs above average in foreign markets, in particular Central and South American, Mexico and Spain. There is only the trailers to go by, so I could be wrong.

Whether it is successful or fails, Blue Beetle will underscore Warner Bros' pitiful position on a long-term superhero movies strategy. Just think up something and put it out there. Plain stupidity at its finest.
 

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I am definitely in wait-and-see mode. Blue Beetle would not surprise me though if it performs above average in foreign markets, in particular Central and South American, Mexico and Spain. There is only the trailers to go by, so I could be wrong.

Whether it is successful or fails, Blue Beetle will underscore Warner Bros' pitiful position on a long-term superhero movies strategy. Just think up something and put it out there. Plain stupidity at its finest.
Yep.

They really had no plan at all.

It’s not hard to see why such sweeping changes were made.

It takes a lot of ‘work’ to botch that thing so badly.

(although Kathleen Kennedy is doing a ‘fine job’ of catching up to them)
 

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Yep.

They really had no plan at all.

It’s not hard to see why such sweeping changes were made.

It takes a lot of ‘work’ to botch that thing so badly.

(although Kathleen Kennedy is doing a ‘fine job’ of catching up to them)
I know very well how you feel about Kennedy. :muttley:
 

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I know very well how you feel about Kennedy. :muttley:
The numbers back me up.

She’s done a poor job ever since Disney acquired Lucasfilm. How she still has one is shocking to me.

How many failures does an executive get?

One last note on her. There is speculation that indeed Indy 5 was the last straw for her and she may in fact be let go.
 
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Very much so and that saddens me. The latest Indiana Jones movie is doing poorly and I thought it deserved a better fate.

I’m a big movie fan and I worry that it’s going to be negatively affected in a big way.
Yeah initially it was some movies and I was like okay maybe the Fast series is feeling fatigue from its audience. But seeing Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible to a certain extent...even the DC Films....they would've faired better a year or two ago. I'm not really sure what's going on with Hollywood. Is this the streaming era catching up to it? and I say that as in initially when everything was closed down everything went to streaming especially a lot of Warner products. Hate to see it. Going to the theater is still a fun experience for me.
 

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Yeah initially it was some movies and I was like okay maybe the Fast series is feeling fatigue from its audience. But seeing Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible to a certain extent...even the DC Films....they would've faired better a year or two ago. I'm not really sure what's going on with Hollywood. Is this the streaming era catching up to it? and I say that as in initially when everything was closed down everything went to streaming especially a lot of Warner products. Hate to see it. Going to the theater is still a fun experience for me.
I think the advent of streaming has definitely had a big impact on theater attendance.

And I think the quick turnaround from theaters to home access has as well. Many are just willing to wait a few months to see a film in the comfort of their own homes.
 

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I think the advent of streaming has definitely had a big impact on theater attendance.

And I think the quick turnaround from theaters to home access has as well. Many are just willing to wait a few months to see a film in the comfort of their own homes.
Well not only that but its not even wasting a few months. I just saw the Flash and i'm pretty sure that was released in June. Wait time for release is as short as its ever been and even sometimes it releases simultaneously in theaters and on streaming. Now your Summer Blockbusters still seem to be taking the wait approach but like you said there are people who don't mind waiting the 3 months.
 

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I just saw the Flash and i'm pretty sure that was released in June.
The Flash was released to theaters on June 16. Did you see in recently via a conventional streamer like HBO, Prime Video, etc.? A conventional platform? Or neither of those viewing formats?
 

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The Flash was released to theaters on June 16. Did you see in recently via a conventional streamer like HBO, Prime Video, etc.? A conventional platform? Or neither of those viewing formats?
I saw that it’s already available for purchase through iTunes for $24.99.

I guess they’ve sped up that process to try to recoup some of their losses at the box office.

But overall, I think that behavior is contributing to the overall problem in getting people to the theaters.
 

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By Brian Cronin | CBR
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By Anthony Gramuglia | CBR
July 20, 2023


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