Could the Big12 and PAC10 Combine?
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5285680
Reports: Texas considering Big 12 deal
Updated: June 14, 2010, 3:25 PM ET
ESPN.com news services
The Texas Longhorns, based on a TV deal in the works that could pay them upwards of
$25 million per year, are leaning toward staying in a 10-team Big 12 for the foreseeable future, Orangebloods.com has reported, citing sources familiar with negotiations.
Texas was meeting Monday with the other remaining nine schools in the Big 12 about a TV deal included in a plan put together by Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe that would keep the league intact with its current programs, according to multiple reports.
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Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma would each receive at least $20 million annually from a new Big 12 TV contract, according to a report, comparable with what the top conference deals pay now.
Texas stands to earn between $20 million and $25 million annually in television revenue, including money from its own network, in the reworked deal, according to Orangebloods.com.
The Longhorns network figures to generate between $3 million and $5 million, according to the report. Because the Big 12 has unequal revenue sharing, the deal will mean more money for Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma, who all would receive at least $20 million annually from the new deal.
The other seven schools in the Big 12 would make between $14 million and $17 million, doubling what they currently receive in TV revenue.
Earlier Monday, ESPN reported that the departure of Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10 was "imminent," citing four sources within the Big 12 . A source told ESPN's Joe Schad that Texas president WiIlliam Powers Jr. was taking a "global view" of the landscape, excited about the importance of aligning his school with research opportunities and academic reputations of schools in the Pac-10.
But clearly being able to come at least close to the Pac-10 financial projections, while being able to still launch a network, may have swayed Powers to change his mind.
The source within the Big 12 said Beebe's plan was "gaining traction" with Powers as he worked through Beebe's projections to determine if they compare financially with the Pac-10 proposal.
Part of those Big 12 projections would likely include "adjustments" from television partners as well as future contracts that were more on par with the contracts of other conferences, the source said.
Reports: Texas considering Big 12 deal
Updated: June 14, 2010, 3:25 PM ET
ESPN.com news services
The Texas Longhorns, based on a TV deal in the works that could pay them upwards of
$25 million per year, are leaning toward staying in a 10-team Big 12 for the foreseeable future, Orangebloods.com has reported, citing sources familiar with negotiations.
Texas was meeting Monday with the other remaining nine schools in the Big 12 about a TV deal included in a plan put together by Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe that would keep the league intact with its current programs, according to multiple reports.
Millions of Reasons
Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma would each receive at least $20 million annually from a new Big 12 TV contract, according to a report, comparable with what the top conference deals pay now.
Texas stands to earn between $20 million and $25 million annually in television revenue, including money from its own network, in the reworked deal, according to Orangebloods.com.
The Longhorns network figures to generate between $3 million and $5 million, according to the report. Because the Big 12 has unequal revenue sharing, the deal will mean more money for Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma, who all would receive at least $20 million annually from the new deal.
The other seven schools in the Big 12 would make between $14 million and $17 million, doubling what they currently receive in TV revenue.
Earlier Monday, ESPN reported that the departure of Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10 was "imminent," citing four sources within the Big 12 . A source told ESPN's Joe Schad that Texas president WiIlliam Powers Jr. was taking a "global view" of the landscape, excited about the importance of aligning his school with research opportunities and academic reputations of schools in the Pac-10.
But clearly being able to come at least close to the Pac-10 financial projections, while being able to still launch a network, may have swayed Powers to change his mind.
The source within the Big 12 said Beebe's plan was "gaining traction" with Powers as he worked through Beebe's projections to determine if they compare financially with the Pac-10 proposal.
Part of those Big 12 projections would likely include "adjustments" from television partners as well as future contracts that were more on par with the contracts of other conferences, the source said.
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ABQCOWBOY;3432906 said:
This deal that is being discussed doesn't include 2 more teams. Everything I am reading is that they will stay at 10 and call it a day.
I would love to see TCU added and maybe Memphis
Getting that free 10mill/year from the CEO of FedEx is just plain ole "free money".
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I would like to see TCU and maybe Houston added to the mix. Get a couple of the old SWC teams back in the fold.
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Dallas;3432909 said:
Actually, I think they say that they are prepared to go with 10 teams. I don't think it says that they are planning to stay with 10 teams. Big 12 will be back to 12 or more soon. Will that be this upcoming season or next? I don't know.
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ABQCOWBOY;3432921 said:
When will these moves take place? I know the 2010 schedule is already out so I assume any move by any team will not take place this season.
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If the Big 12 is saved, you can thank Texas A&M for not being bullied by Texas. Texas has blinked. If Texas A&M doesn't seriously threaten to go to the SEC, do you really think Texas stays. I don't. Everyone would be in the Pac Ten, all the schools invited, except for Texas A&M. The thought of the SEC getting better access into Texas' turf didn't set well at all, evidently. Plus, Texas A&M would have better access to the elite, defensive players in the South, where the heart and soul of the best defensive players in the country live. At least, Texas A&M had the guts to come to the SEC while Texas wanted to dodge Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee. They can talk "lack of a cultural fit" all they want to and hide behind academics. Their president is from Berkley, and that elitist attitude says it all.
If Texas A&M was smart, it would bolt to the SEC, because eventually, Texas will act up again when they don't get their way or when they think "Texas' best interest isn't being met".
By the way Oklahoma should be embarrassed with the way they played Texas' lap dog. It's o.k., Texas A&M showed the courage to potentially save the league, for now.
If Texas A&M was smart, it would bolt to the SEC, because eventually, Texas will act up again when they don't get their way or when they think "Texas' best interest isn't being met".
By the way Oklahoma should be embarrassed with the way they played Texas' lap dog. It's o.k., Texas A&M showed the courage to potentially save the league, for now.
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41gy#;3432961 said:
BTW:
Oklahoma should be embarrassed?
How about you find a way OUT of the "Consolation Prize" bowls before saying anyone should be embarrassed about anything.
You are just hating just to hate.
LOL @ A&M ever doing anything in the SEC. You think its hard to compete w/ Texas and Oklahoma in this conference? The folks at A&M would never see a CCG in the SEC.
Just enjoy another beat down again from UT and OK this year.
That is all.
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41gy#;3432961 said:
How did A&M do both "seriously threaten to go to the SEC" and "showed the courage to potentially save the league"? It seems as if they could do one or the other, but not both.
It seems that Nebraska and Missouri were the first teams involved in any league hopping, so I don't see how Texas is getting so much blame. Texas has a lot of influence, but they seem to be reacting to things around them more than pressuring other schools.
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Texas isn't scared of anyone in the country. When it comes down to it, they can play with just about anybody in the country most years. It's about money and perception of the University, thats why the SEC won't work.
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UT was ready and set to join the Pac-10. If TAMU hadn't threatened to join the SEC no one would have considered the "Beebe Plan." UT went so far as to threaten breaking off the rivalry with TAMU if they didn't fall in line with UT, but the Aggies didn't bite. UT would've lost some recruiting power and fan base to TAMU if the teams had split.
Anyone want to count how many conference tournaments each school won this year?
TAMU - 6
UT - 5
Tech - 1
Anyone want to count how many conference tournaments each school won this year?
TAMU - 6
UT - 5
Tech - 1
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Cythim;3433087 said:
I don't think Texas was ever really set on going to any other conference.
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From what I hear, if Texas doesn't commit to the Big 12 by the end of Tuesday, they are going to the PAC TEN, with their minions.
Also, I hear that Texas A&M is still seriously considering the SEC, no matter what Texas does.
Furthermore, while Texas was openly threatening not to play A&M anymore, they were secretly negotiating the TV rights to the non-conference A&M game.
If Texas A&M was smart, they would join the best football conference in the country, where revenue is equally shared.
Also, I hear that Texas A&M is still seriously considering the SEC, no matter what Texas does.
Furthermore, while Texas was openly threatening not to play A&M anymore, they were secretly negotiating the TV rights to the non-conference A&M game.
If Texas A&M was smart, they would join the best football conference in the country, where revenue is equally shared.