Counting Down The 50 Greatest Quarterbacks In NFL History

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The 5 best QB's of all time, in any order: Montana, Graham, Unitas, Brady, Starr.
Oh, and BTW, Mahomes will join this list soon, making it top 6. Let him play a bit longer first, hey?
 

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I can accept Aikman not top ten, but not Staubach.

Problem with QB rankings is it’s no longer even close for apples to apples.

Easier pass rules, more vertical offenses, more games… easy for any QB to look great vs old timers now if you’re just looking at numbers.
 

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Name them.
Montana
Brady
Graham
Starr
Unitas
Staubach
Aikman
Marino
Fouts
Bradshaw

Rodgers
Mahomes
PManning
Elway
Favre
Young
Tarkenton
Namath
Baugh
Bobby Layne

Griese
Kelly
Len Dawson
Jurgenson
Tittle
Moon
Luckman
Stabler
Rothlisberger
Waterfield

Meredtith
Van Brocklin
Bledsoe
Esiason
Warner
Theismann
Hadl
Gabriel
Ken Anderson
Brodie

Blanda
Phil Simms
Jack Kemp
McNair
Friedman
Eli
Plunkett
Jim Hart
Krieg
McNabb


There's 50

Danny White
Herbert
Dak
Josh Allen
Lawrence
Stroud
Flacco
Russell Wilson
Brees
Rivers

60

Romo
Culpepper
Carson Palmer
Matt Ryan
Hasslebeck
Kerry Collins
Jim Everett
Bulger
Brunell
Deberg

70

Jaws
Alex Smith
Pastorini
Burrow
Purdy
Pennington
Dak
Stafford
Carr
Goff

80

Kosar
Jeff Garcia
Garrard
Archie Manning
Jay Fiedler
Billy Kilmer
Steve Grogan
Lomax
Bartkowski
Ed Brown

90

Strock
Morton
Milt Plum
Schroeder
Bill Nelsen
Stan Humphries
Jake Delhomme
Gannon
Rypien
Tommy Thompson.


There, you got it.

Now, what exactly is the point of this? I would imagine just so you could go NUH UH, and show your chagrin. Go ahead, but don't forget, you asked.

If you want a couple more, Hostetler and Grbac. Oh, and Brad Johnson. Earl Morrall. Bert Jones. Tobin Rote. Frank Ryan.
 

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Montana
Brady
Graham
Starr
Unitas
Staubach
Aikman
Marino
Fouts
Bradshaw

Rodgers
Mahomes
PManning
Elway
Favre
Young
Tarkenton
Namath
Baugh
Bobby Layne

Griese
Kelly
Len Dawson
Jurgenson
Tittle
Moon
Luckman
Stabler
Rothlisberger
Waterfield

Meredtith
Van Brocklin
Bledsoe
Esiason
Warner
Theismann
Hadl
Gabriel
Ken Anderson
Brodie

Blanda
Phil Simms
Jack Kemp
McNair
Friedman
Eli
Plunkett
Jim Hart
Krieg
McNabb


There's 50

Danny White
Herbert
Dak
Josh Allen
Lawrence
Stroud
Flacco
Russell Wilson
Brees
Rivers

60

Romo
Culpepper
Carson Palmer
Matt Ryan
Hasslebeck
Kerry Collins
Jim Everett
Bulger
Brunell
Deberg

70

Jaws
Alex Smith
Pastorini
Burrow
Purdy
Pennington
Dak
Stafford
Carr
Goff

80

Kosar
Jeff Garcia
Garrard
Archie Manning
Jay Fiedler
Billy Kilmer
Steve Grogan
Lomax
Bartkowski
Ed Brown

90

Strock
Morton
Milt Plum
Schroeder
Bill Nelsen
Stan Humphries
Jake Delhomme
Gannon
Rypien
Tommy Thompson.


There, you got it.

Now, what exactly is the point of this? I would imagine just so you could go NUH UH, and show your chagrin. Go ahead, but don't forget, you asked.

If you want a couple more, Hostetler and Grbac. Oh, and Brad Johnson. Earl Morrall. Bert Jones. Tobin Rote. Frank Ryan.
I mean the list is a joke.

Let me first off say most of these guys you listed our before I was even born. But I for sure have watched names like Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, Carr, Alex Smith, Culpepper and all that other trash from the 2000's on and there is absolutely no way those guys are better than a two time MVP. You're naming backups...its a joke. And now i'm questioning the rest of your list of guys in the 60's and 70's I never saw play.....
 

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Romo doesn't belong anywhere on this list.



Lol at Lamar Jackson above Dan Fouts. And just one spot below Roethlisberger. Jackson's 2nd MVP is a joke. 22 Touchdowns and 3,700 yards in today's league. He won it only because there's no other candidate. Most undeserving recipient of 2 MVPs ever. Gotta take those 2 MVPs out of the conversation when evaluating his pedestrian stats in a passing friendly league.



I think Favres year at Minnesota puts him ahead of Rodgers. Favre was able to resurrect a middling franchise into something worth watching.....would not have even gotten close to the championship game without him.



If Rodgers can get the Jets to the championship game then maybe he should be above Favre - but all else equal....I think the fact that Favre was successful on 2 teams puts him ahead of Rodgers, for now.



Also don't think Brees is top 10. His era is stats galore, yet he didn't stand out much from the other stats guys. Except he never had a year as good as Peyton in 2013. Marino even in 1984 (a far more defensive era) had more TDs than Brees ever had in a year. His best year is 2011 where he had 5400 yards and 46 TDs but is that enough to garner him Top 10 status in such a stats galore era?
 

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I mean the list is a joke.

Let me first off say most of these guys you listed our before I was even born. But I for sure have watched names like Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, Carr, Alex Smith, Culpepper and all that other trash from the 2000's on and there is absolutely no way those guys are better than a two time MVP. You're naming backups...its a joke. And now i'm questioning the rest of your list of guys in the 60's and 70's I never saw play.....
Then why did you ask? Seriously, if you asked just so you could do some silly little pretend outrageousness, then you are not looking good. Not a good look at all.

Next time, don't ask if you don't want to hear the answer.
 

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I refuse to accept any suggestion that Roger Staubach is not a top ten.

The only reason he is not a top three was a six year military commitment coming out of college. Could you imagine six more seasons added to his Hall if Fame career?

The same reason applies as to why he wasn't the first overall pick in the draft. Staubach was the first junior to ever win the Heisman Trophy.

The Cowboys were never out of a game with Roger in the huddle. A few teams tested this and it cost them playoff elimination.

Staubach's competitive drive, leadership, and poise during the critical moments of a game is what put "America" in "America's Team".

I declare this list to be totally illegitimate.
 

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Then why did you ask? Seriously, if you asked just so you could do some silly little pretend outrageousness, then you are not looking good. Not a good look at all.

Next time, don't ask if you don't want to hear the answer.
I asked because I thought you were going to take the question serious. You listed Jake Delhomme. What in the hell? The question was genuine because I honestly can't even name 100 quarterbacks. So I thought well maybe i'm the one with the issue here. THen I see the names you list and you can't either.

No one on this planet thinks Jake Delhomme is better than LAmar Jackson.

A Two time MVP and All Pro Delhomme never even SNIFFED.....unbelievable.
 

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I can accept Aikman not top ten, but not Staubach.

Problem with QB rankings is it’s no longer even close for apples to apples.

Easier pass rules, more vertical offenses, more games… easy for any QB to look great vs old timers now if you’re just looking at numbers.
I mean beyond rule changes modern QBs have honed themselves in a way that changed the league. Its not just the athleticism, for both running and the ability to accurately throw on the move, modern offenses have both boosted complexity and demand higher accuracy then ever before. 15 years ago 60% accuracy was considered good whereas now you would be considered low tier if you had that. Most of the past 10 years has been the evolution of offenses and the evolution of QBs to be able to just do more things than ever before. For a fun example of this look at Tom Brady. Until around 2007 every year he had an INT % over 2%. Then from 2007 until his retirement 2% was his ceiling.
 

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IMHO, the only QBs that count are Cowboys...

1. Roger Staubach
2. Troy Aikman
3. Dak Prescott
4. Don Meredith
5. Tony Romo
6. Eddie LeBaron
7. Danny White
8. Craig Morton
9. Drew Bledsoe
10. Jon Kitna...
 

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Then why did you ask? Seriously, if you asked just so you could do some silly little pretend outrageousness, then you are not looking good. Not a good look at all.

Next time, don't ask if you don't want to hear the answer.
The fact he never saw the 60’s and 70’s says it all. Some actually respect the wisdom of their elders.

Yes, you threw a 100 up there. Top 50 was pretty solid. Does it get dicey after that. Of course. The fact he only takes issue with a couple supports strength of your list. Well done!

I would probably put Jackson in there not because of his passing ability but his overall effectiveness with his legs.
 

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Montana
Brady
Graham
Starr
Unitas
Staubach
Aikman
Marino
Fouts
Bradshaw

Rodgers
Mahomes
PManning
Elway
Favre
Young
Tarkenton
Namath
Baugh
Bobby Layne

Griese
Kelly
Len Dawson
Jurgenson
Tittle
Moon
Luckman
Stabler
Rothlisberger
Waterfield

Meredtith
Van Brocklin
Bledsoe
Esiason
Warner
Theismann
Hadl
Gabriel
Ken Anderson
Brodie

Blanda
Phil Simms
Jack Kemp
McNair
Friedman
Eli
Plunkett
Jim Hart
Krieg
McNabb


There's 50

Danny White
Herbert
Dak
Josh Allen
Lawrence
Stroud
Flacco
Russell Wilson
Brees
Rivers

60

Romo
Culpepper
Carson Palmer
Matt Ryan
Hasslebeck
Kerry Collins
Jim Everett
Bulger
Brunell
Deberg

70

Jaws
Alex Smith
Pastorini
Burrow
Purdy
Pennington
Dak
Stafford
Carr
Goff

80

Kosar
Jeff Garcia
Garrard
Archie Manning
Jay Fiedler
Billy Kilmer
Steve Grogan
Lomax
Bartkowski
Ed Brown

90

Strock
Morton
Milt Plum
Schroeder
Bill Nelsen
Stan Humphries
Jake Delhomme
Gannon
Rypien
Tommy Thompson.


There, you got it.

Now, what exactly is the point of this? I would imagine just so you could go NUH UH, and show your chagrin. Go ahead, but don't forget, you asked.

If you want a couple more, Hostetler and Grbac. Oh, and Brad Johnson. Earl Morrall. Bert Jones. Tobin Rote. Frank Ryan.
When you get to that bottom 15-20 it can get dicey but here’s a couple I wouldn’t have left off Top 100. Daryl Lamonica, Doug Williams. Maybe even Kapp instead of some of those.Charley Johnson another old timer worthy of mention. But overall you did a good job. It gets tough after 60 or 70:)
 
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The fact he never saw the 60’s and 70’s says it all. Some actually respect the wisdom of their elders.

Yes, you threw a 100 up there. Top 50 was pretty solid. Does it get dicey after that. Of course. The fact he only takes issue with a couple supports strength of your list. Well done!

I would probably put Jackson in there not because of his passing ability but his overall effectiveness with his legs.
I have a tough time putting any subpar passer in the top 100 all time. When you get to playoff D's, the QB absolutely must be able to pass. Because playoff D's shut down running QBs. If you offered me Minschew or Jackson, it would be a tough choice for me.

At Qb, you need a field general, not some dude who isn't even smart enough to hire an agent.
 

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I asked because I thought you were going to take the question serious. You listed Jake Delhomme. What in the hell? The question was genuine because I honestly can't even name 100 quarterbacks. So I thought well maybe i'm the one with the issue here. THen I see the names you list and you can't either.

No one on this planet thinks Jake Delhomme is better than LAmar Jackson.

A Two time MVP and All Pro Delhomme never even SNIFFED.....unbelievable.
The fact that you don't understand that I did shows a lack of knowledge. You don't even know how good DelHomme was, unbelievable.

Define better. Delhomme is more likely to lead you to a super bowl, so which is really the better QB?
 

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The fact that you don't understand that I did shows a lack of knowledge. You don't even know how good DelHomme was, unbelievable.

Define better. Delhomme is more likely to lead you to a super bowl, so which is really the better QB?
Delhomme was nothing special. SB appearances is a team accomplishment. Rex Grossman made a SB.

Define better? There is nothing Delhomme did better. He was a one year wonder. His run was so short.

Lamar has worked on his passing and has become a much better passer from the pocket. But his legs alone are the deadliest to ever touch the league. As far as Lamar making a SB I don’t know if he can if Mahomes is in his way.
 

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Delhomme was nothing special. SB appearances is a team accomplishment. Rex Grossman made a SB.

Define better? There is nothing Delhomme did better. He was a one year wonder. His run was so short.

Lamar has worked on his passing and has become a much better passer from the pocket. But his legs alone are the deadliest to ever touch the league. As far as Lamar making a SB I don’t know if he can if Mahomes is in his way.
If you’re a legit prolific passer you shouldn’t have to work on it. It’s why some would leave him off this list. No doubt his legs are his weapon though.

And you’re right, besides RG3 for one season and possibly Vick we haven’t seen any other QB’s with his level of running ability. It’s truly Special and a weapon to deal with.

He’s just not one of the highly paid QB’s I’d want cause once his running game is defended, he’s done. And like KSK correctly stated in the playoffs greater defenses can contain better forcing him to beat them with his arm. A similar issue that arises from all of the great running style QB’s.

That doesn’t mean they still aren’t effective QB’s and have some success in the NFL. I’d agree Jackson should be in there somewhere but not as high as the poll presented. In the NFL a prolific passer is much more highly regarded.
 

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Thoughts? :popcorn:

https://newarena.com/nfl/counting-down-the-50-greatest-quarterbacks-in-nfl-history-2/

Cowboys on the List:

42 Tony Romo
14 Roger Staubach
12 Troy Aikman

QBs who wore the jersey but are not True Cowboys
50 Drew Bledsoe
39 Randall Cunningham

There are definitely a lot of headscratchers there from my perspective.
Dak is about to break all of Romo's Cowboys franchise records (plus have better TDs-to-INTs ratio, better accuracy completions %, better passer and QBR career ratings, etc), but let's put Romo in the top 50 while keeping Dak off?

Hilarious. A joke.
 

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If you’re a legit prolific passer you shouldn’t have to work on it. It’s why some would leave him off this list. No doubt his legs are his weapon though.

And you’re right, besides RG3 for one season and possibly Vick we haven’t seen any other QB’s with his level of running ability. It’s truly Special and a weapon to deal with.

He’s just not one of the highly paid QB’s I’d want cause once his running game is defended, he’s done. And like KSK correctly stated in the playoffs greater defenses can contain better forcing him to beat them with his arm. A similar issue that arises from all of the great running style QB’s.

That doesn’t mean they still aren’t effective QB’s and have some success in the NFL. I’d agree Jackson should be in there somewhere but not as high as the poll presented. In the NFL a prolific passer is much more highly regarded.
Ksk suggested 100 guys better than him.

I like Lamar. And I get his limitations but we are talking about a two time mvp.

And I never suggested he was a prolific passer. My argument is neither were guys like Jake Delhomme lol.

Lamar came into this league with people saying he should play running back or receiver. So for me I always been a fan when scouts are proven wrong. He’s had to develop into a better passer and he has. Dak had to do the same and others.
 

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Delhomme was nothing special. SB appearances is a team accomplishment. Rex Grossman made a SB.

Define better? There is nothing Delhomme did better. He was a one year wonder. His run was so short.

Lamar has worked on his passing and has become a much better passer from the pocket. But his legs alone are the deadliest to ever touch the league. As far as Lamar making a SB I don’t know if he can if Mahomes is in his way.
Until he gets in the playoffs, then he fails from being way too one dimensional.
 
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