Couple of Tweets from Hardy

[AbeBeta]

Nobody really knows what happened with Hardy and the girl. There is zero proof of anything other than the fact that he had some guns laying around.

And she's got bruises.

And she got paid off.

 

[RunDMC]

And she's got bruises.

And she got paid off.

There's no evidence that she got paid off.

 

[xwalker]

And she's got bruises.

And she got paid off.

There is no proof that she was paid off; although, I'm not saying that she didn't.

There is no proof of how the bruises occurred.

 

[AsthmaField]

I wonder how much race factors into this issue. He's black, she's white. A lot of fans probably still have an issue with that even in 2015.

You would think that it wouldn't matter but you never know. I'm sure that the lunatic fringe few are out there though.

 

[ConstantReboot]

And she's got bruises.

And she got paid off.

She did not get paid off. Your assuming to fill an agenda. Nothing more.

 

[ConstantReboot]

There is no proof that she was paid off; although, I'm not saying that she didn't.

There is no proof of how the bruises occurred.

Hardy and his victim, Nicole Holder, did not live together at the time of the incident. Both parties reportedly drank to great excess. Holder admitted using cocaine on the night of the altercation. She also conceded hitting and/or attacking Hardy and his assistant, Sammy Curtis. She attributed the injuries on her arms to Curtis, whom she claimed forcibly carried/removed her from the tiny bedroom/office where the main incident took place. Hardy, not Holder, called police.

This piece was taken from article I read earlier.
She the victim CLAIMED came from Curtis, who was Hardy's freind, who carried her away - not Hardy.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

She did not get paid off. Your assuming to fill an agenda. Nothing more.

There was actually an article saying she accepted payment. Just can't find it. Of course because it was written doesn't make it true either.

 

[CATCH17]

I literally didn't see one single thing in all of those pictures that I didn't fully expect to see. They contained exactly what they should have for what went down that night.

The big bruise on her elbow was there because she drove her elbow backwards into Hardy's friend's face, so I knew that was there.

Hardy and his friend said that she drove the toilet lid down on her own arm... those were there.

They said she jumped up and fell down in the shower, and those bruises were there.

Holder said that Hardy's friend grabbed her and pulled her out of the room to stop her from hitting Hardy... and those an her arms were there as well.

Pretty much exactly what I expected to see.

How the media or anyone else is shocked, disgusted, or outraged by those pictures simply makes no sense. Unless this is the first thing they've seen, heard, or read about the case, which is unlikely.

Where can I find this info?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I loved the comments about Brady's wife.

There is Zero proof that Hardy ever didn't anything wrong with the girl.

There is a ton of proof that the Patriots are cheaters and there is a lot of evidence that Brady cheated with the air pressure issue.

Do you know how many women have been beaten by fans of teams the Patriots beat because they were cheating?

That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. I'm just enjoying this though. lol So because other people beat their wives it's okay Hardy does? lol There is plenty of proof he beat her. I have more respect for people who say he's a bad guy but I don't care. He'll help my team. I can understand that. Or the courts didn't convict him so why should the Cowboys? It's the defending of him as a good guy that baffles me. Don't care about Brady. I've said plenty of times I think he's a cheater and should have been suspended. Has nothing to do with Hardy though.

 

[AsthmaField]

And she's got bruises.

And she got paid off.

That's what bothers me about the "payoff" thing. There is no real proof that it happened, yet it is widely accepted as fact that Hardy did pay Holder off.

I mean, he could have... but we don't know if he did. Simply because the DA implied that it happened, the masses point to that as proof positive that Holder got paid. The DA would do that in order to try to save face during an exceptionally embarrassing case for him. Of course the prosecutor wouldn't go into how he could still take the case to court but simply didn't believe Ms. Holder's testimony enough to stake his reputation on it.

Yes he would have taken the case to court if Holder was there because that would have made the fact that he didn't believe her testimony a moot point. Without Holder, the DA wouldn't stand in front of a judge and jury and vouch for her story. That is the crux of the problem.

So when he said he couldn't go forward because Holder wasn't there, he was technically telling the truth. The bottom line though was that her story's conflicted and he didn't trust any of them.

However, he had no problem implying that Hardy paying her off was the only issue. Misleading, at best.

Do I think he paid her off? I do think it is likely to have happened, but that means very little. He probably would have done so even if his account of what happened was absolutely true. There was so much at stake and having her just go away would have been the best thing for Hardy no matter what happened.

I realize many think it is proof of his guilt but it isn't IMO. I think he would attempt to make her be quiet no matter who is telling the truth. And don't forget that the DA could have made charges if that was the case. He didn't.

As for the bruises... I'm surprised that most people don't see it the same way that I do. I would think that just about everyone would see that they prove nothing because the bruises were fully expected to be there. Everyone knew they were there and they would be there no matter who's version of the story is actually true. Holder admitted to smashing her elbow back in the friend's face. She admitted to the friend having to restrain her and pull her out of the room, causing bruises all over her arms, etc.

So, even though my expectations are exceedingly low for rational thought on the internet (not talking about you AbeBeta), it still took me by surprise how little people actually admitted that the bruising means nothing in the right/wrong aspect of the case.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

If he were a Patriot or Giant he would be revered for his ability overcome such a trying time in his life and play at a high level.

Or a Stealer we would be hearing what great people the Rooneys are for giving him a chance to get his life back together in such a great environment.

 

[fortdick]

There is a good chance that he is the best 4-3 DE in the league.

Quite a far toss from best defensive player in the league. Second is categorical, the previous unequivocal.

 

[AsthmaField]

Where can I find this info?

I read about a million things online since the offseason began last year... so I would just start by googling about the bench trial/jury trial with the case. There was one article where writers were tweeting out from the bench trial and it has some good info in it, although I can't remember if it had this particular info in it.

It is all out there but I have read so much I can't remember where I read what. If you're really interested, you can find it all.

There was also a good article from the Charlotte Observer about how local attorneys were saying that the DA could have prosecuted without Holder being there and why he didn't trust her testimony enough to do so.

EDIT: Here is that article from the Charlotte Observer http://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article10422650.html

 

[fortdick]

There's no evidence that she got paid off.

Just that everyone knows it except those blind Hardy fans that won't 't accept it.

 

[fortdick]

She did not get paid off. Your assuming to fill an agenda. Nothing more.

This is absurd. Of course she did. Am I supposed to believe you over the District Attorney in the case? IT is pretty plain for everyone to see.

 

[xwalker]

Quite a far toss from best defensive player in the league. Second is categorical, the previous unequivocal.

Not very far and being the best DE does not prevent him from being the best at any position. It is just difficult to compare across positions.

If I were building a 4-3 defense with the choice of any 11 players in the league there is a good chance he would be my top pick.

 

[fortdick]

I wonder how much race factors into this issue. He's black, she's white. A lot of fans probably still have an issue with that even in 2015.

We are resorting to the race card?

How would it be accepted if someone said that his supporters are buying into the gangsta culture that beating the Ho' is acceptable?

 

[fortdick]

Not very far and being the best DE does not prevent him from being the best at any position. It is just difficult to compare across positions.

If I were building a 4-3 defense with the choice of any 11 players in the league there is a good chance he would be my top pick.

Since half the league (15 teams) run a 3-4, I am not impressed even if I was to concede he was best 4-3 DE. Wouldn't anyone take J.J. Watts over Hardy?

 

[xwalker]

Just that everyone knows it except those blind Hardy fans that won't 't accept it.

Even if she was paid off, that just makes it look like that was her goal.

Very few respectible women would take a payoff if something really bad happened to them.

 

[xwalker]

We are resorting to the race card?

How would it be accepted if someone said that his supporters are buying into the gangsta culture that beating the Ho' is acceptable?

Don't know. I white and not a "Gangsta".