Cowboys agree to extension with Scandrick

[jnday]

I'm not vilifying him - this time. While he was under contract, I would agree that he was seriously underpaid. But this isn't the first or even the second time he's gone up early to the pay window. And while I'm fine with this time, I would have a real issue with it if he does it again.

This is becoming a habit and the habit can spread to the other players.'the guy signed a deal and he should honor it. Sometimes these deals are good for the players, but most of the time, these deals hurt the team at some point. After all, this is a business.

 

[TheCount]

This is becoming a habit and the habit can spread to the other players.'the guy signed a deal and he should honor it. Sometimes these deals are good for the players, but most of the time, these deals hurt the team at some point. After all, this is a business.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't see the problem with this spreading to other players in the league. The team is free to decline the offer and deal with what consequences there might be, but I personally wouldn't see any reason I should be getting paid less than coworkers I'm outperforming as a long time employee, contract be damned.

 

[Jstopper]

This is becoming a habit and the habit can spread to the other players.'the guy signed a deal and he should honor it. Sometimes these deals are good for the players, but most of the time, these deals hurt the team at some point. After all, this is a business.

So teams should always honor deals with underperformers also right? After all the team agreed to the deal

 

[dallasdave]

This is becoming a habit and the habit can spread to the other players.'the guy signed a deal and he should honor it. Sometimes these deals are good for the players, but most of the time, these deals hurt the team at some point. After all, this is a business.

YOu are so right, when you sign a contract you are giving your word that you will perform at your highest level for this much pay for this many years. It's really sad that to so many people this means nothing to them ! I guess to a lot of people your word means nothing, well that's not me and not how I was raised.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

YOu are so right, when you sign a contract you are giving your word that you will perform at your highest level for this much pay for this many years. It's really sad so many people this means nothing too! I guess to a lot of people your word means nothing, well that's not me and not how I was raised.

It's like people don't realize that negotiation and renegotiation is how the world works.

 

[dallasdave]

I don't understand this extension. I wouldn't have even entertained the thought.

This is what should have been done. Risen said it well and wise.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

This is what should have been done. Risen said it well and wise.

So you advocate never cutting players right?

 

[Nightman]

So in 2011, we signed him to 6 years
Think about it this way. In 2011 he signed a 6 year, 28.2 million deal which equates to 4.7 million per year from 2011 to 2016. Then, in 2013 he signed an extension that paid him an additional $9 million over the life of the deal and extended it through 2018, making the original deal an 8 year deal for $4.6 million per year. Now, he has signed an additional extension that pays him another $9 million over the life of the deal and adds one more year, thus making the total deal worth about $5.1 million per year.

So, all the adjustments to his original contract results in going from $4.7 million annually over 6 years to $5.1 million annually over 9 years. None of this terribly earth shattering.

I was going over this with another fan last night. With all the restructures and extensions it's been hard to keep up with.

Since he signed the extension in 2011 he has been paid 16.6m. He was due another 10.5m thru 2018, now he will get another 9.5m thru 2019.

That equals 36.6m over the 8+years or a little more than 4.5m a year. Nothing to worry about for a player like Scandrick.

 

[dallasdave]

Music to Risen Star's ears.

That's a good one.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't understand this extension. I wouldn't have even entertained the thought.

Your dissatisfaction is noted and added to the pile.

 

[Risen Star]

I'm not interested in whether he's underpaid, what's fair to the player or any other nonsense. You had him under contract for multiple years. He had no option. Doesn't seem sensible whatsoever to do this.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I'm not interested in whether he's underpaid, what's fair to the player or any other nonsense. You had him under contract for multiple years. He had no option. Doesn't seem sensible whatsoever to do this.

How is that black and white world you live in?

 

[AzorAhai]

How is that black and white world you live in?

 

[Nightman]

I'm not interested in whether he's underpaid, what's fair to the player or any other nonsense. You had him under contract for multiple years. He had no option. Doesn't seem sensible whatsoever to do this.

You've heard that all that matters is the guaranteed money???

After that amount is gone everything is a negotiation. Both ways.

Having leverage and using it on one of your best players is not a great strategy.

Jerry being Jerry just landed Collins, now you want him to be Scrooge???

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not interested in whether he's underpaid, what's fair to the player or any other nonsense. You had him under contract for multiple years. He had no option. Doesn't seem sensible whatsoever to do this.

First Collector: At this festive time of year, Mr. Scrooge, it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute.

Ebenezer: Are there no prisons?

First Collector: Plenty of prisons.

Ebenezer: And the union workhouses - are they still in operation?

First Collector: They are. I wish I could say they were not.

Ebenezer: Oh, from what you said at first I was afraid that something had happened to stop them in their useful course. I'm very glad to hear it.

First Collector: I don't think you quite understand us, sir. A few of us are endeavoring to buy the poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth.

Ebenezer: Why?

First Collector: Because it is at Christmastime that want is most keenly felt, and abundance rejoices. Now what can I put you down for?

Ebenezer: Huh! Nothing!

Second Collector: You wish to be anonymous?

Ebenezer: [firmly, but calmly] I wish to be left alone. Since you ask me what I wish sir, that is my answer. I help to support the establishments I have named; those who are badly off must go there.

First Collector: Many can't go there.

Second Collector: And some would rather die.

 

[visionary]

So teams should always honor deals with underperformers also right? After all the team agreed to the deal

Teams do honor the deal with the players

If a team cuts a player for underperformance they:

1. Have to pay him his guaranteed money AND

2. Their ability to cut the player after a certain number of years was part of the deal

I don't know how often this BASIC fact about contracts has to be repeated before people actually get it

These are multi millionaires with a powerful union behind them

 

[visionary]

I'm not interested in whether he's underpaid, what's fair to the player or any other nonsense. You had him under contract for multiple years. He had no option. Doesn't seem sensible whatsoever to do this.

Common sense had no place on this discussion so please refrain from using it while posting in this thread

 

[jnday]

So teams should always honor deals with underperformers also right? After all the team agreed to the deal

I think the team is doing a great jog honoring the contract with Carr. They have been robbed every year that he has been on the roster. They have paid hi anyway.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Not a starter on half the teams in the league according to Two Deep.

Yep.

So, are you a stalker now? Hope this won't shatter your weekend, but you ain't the first., kiddo.

 

[jnday]

I'm not interested in whether he's underpaid, what's fair to the player or any other nonsense. You had him under contract for multiple years. He had no option. Doesn't seem sensible whatsoever to do this.

Exactly . Headed to the tractate was happy about when he signed it.