Cowboys are what we are

[big dog cowboy]

The NFC is wide open and the Cowboys are a good team. The current team could actually win.

They could that's why it's so frustrating when they can't get out of their own way.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Gregg just hopes Jerry will bring that stud Jason Garrett back.

 

[ArtClink]

It’s typical for everyone to be disappointed and frustrated . But we should be used to it by now . Ive certainly become as numb as I think I can be.

It takes a different mindset that Cowboy fans had during our glory eras where we always believed we had a shot to win a championship. It’s time for fans to come to terms with what this franchise has become this era .

We aren’t that championship caliber franchise most of the last two generations grew up with, only in name. And I think is part of the problem or at least the foundation into our anger this era. We keep expecting to become that franchise again.

We are almost 3 decades removed from that once proud championship ways . And with an ownership which at least for most of this era hasn’t set their selfish ambitions aside allowing an opportunity for more success.

Cowboy fans must take all of this into consideration and adjust their emotions and attachments accordingly as we have become more similar to many other struggling franchises this era instead of the more elite franchises .

100% accurate. Jerry has the fanbase so use to losing (not mkg playoffs OR way underachieving in the playoffs) that an occasional wild card win seems like a freaking Super Bowl to many.

Those are the facts and they have nothing to do with if anyone is a fan, they have to do with the sorry SOB that bought the team and ran it into the ground the past 28 years.
Anyone who thinks Jerry had anything to do with those three Super Bowls except hire Jimmy, give him total control over football operations, and sign his paycheck has experienced a break in reality.

Can ANY head coach win here when they are not allowed to hire their own staff and they have zero power over hiring and firing? Well, not for the past 28 years anyway. But trust the Jones system of management.
The fuhrer will WILL us to victory, right?

 

[Diehardblues]

Kinda funny you’re saying this isn’t a bash Jerry yet you do it in most of your posts in this tread you started.? How about we wait before passing judgement and see how it ends. What they were in the past means nothing to this year’s team and how far they go, you act like they are done for and it’s not close to being over. The “core message” lmao. I mean come on how do you come up with this stuff.

All I can do is provide my view which includes my instincts and insight based on 60+ years of diehard fandom.

If you don’t agree then that’s fine. And nowhere did I assume this season was over . That’s not my message at all. You missed the point.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes, the dysfunctional front office is the problem.
Has been the last 28 years.
That's my frustration.
Get a competent GM and we could be an elite contender again.
To be so close is heartbreaking.
Jerry will move on about the same time Dak will age out.
It's gonna be interesting to see what happens.

There’s no guarantee another GM and front office would deliver more success. We see the rest of the league with normal situations that still struggle building a championship team. But at least you have the opportunity to finally get it right.

Amazingly with such a dysfunctional situation we’ve been able to produce a competitive or at least relative and interesting product most seasons. Which has enabled Jethro enough to hype and market,

 

[Darkhound]

It’s typical for everyone to be disappointed and frustrated . But we should be used to it by now . Ive certainly become as numb as I think I can be.

It takes a different mindset that Cowboy fans had during our glory eras where we always believed we had a shot to win a championship. It’s time for fans to come to terms with what this franchise has become this era .

We aren’t that championship caliber franchise most of the last two generations grew up with, only in name. And I think is part of the problem or at least the foundation into our anger this era. We keep expecting to become that franchise again.

We are almost 3 decades removed from that once proud championship ways . And with an ownership which at least for most of this era hasn’t set their selfish ambitions aside allowing an opportunity for more success.

Cowboy fans must take all of this into consideration and adjust their emotions and attachments accordingly as we have become more similar to many other struggling franchises this era instead of the more elite franchises .

This is exactly my point.
I recall I saw and read an interview years ago, where Aikman said that once Jimmy left the "culture" of the team was soft. Including with Switzer.
I have come to terms that we are a MEDIOCRE "circus" franchise.

And it does tick me (it shouldn't) that some fans still think this is a winning organization.
Jerry Jones might mean well, but he has created this circus and ther is no indication that this will change anytime soon.

So embrace and accept that we are fans of a MEDIOCRE organization that will have its ups and downs but mostly will choke when it comes to getting serious

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes, if it was not for Will McClay and our amazing draft prowess we would be bottom dwellers.
Jerry does just enough to keep this team relevant.
That's nice and maddening all at the same time.

Unfortunately it probably would have served is better long term if we hit rock bottom. Like the 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons delivered is our best situation this era .

But once we were back on our feet Jethro begun meddling again and defused the direction and progress we’d made.

We manage to build just enough to market and hype which provides a perception the tide is turning but the culture and weaknesses in key areas still come up short while some opponents are building better teams and culture.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is exactly my point.
I recall I saw and read an interview years ago, where Aikman said that once Jimmy left the "culture" of the team was soft. Including with Switzer.
I have come to terms that we are a MEDIOCRE "circus" franchise.

And it does tick me (it shouldn't) that some fans still think this is a winning organization.
Jerry Jones might mean well, but he has created this circus and ther is no indication that this will change anytime soon.

So embrace and accept that we are fans of a MEDIOCRE organization that will have its ups and downs but mostly will choke when it comes to getting serious

And it’s not all about the team choking. We must also come to terms that other franchises are building better teams and culture which get in our way.

 

[rambo2]

They could that's why it's so frustrating when they can't get out of their own way.

I don't get frustrated when I look at the Eagles and the 49ers. When you look at the big picture and see that your team is still alive for the 1 or 2 spot and a lock for the 5 with 2 games to go. It's not bad. Any team in the playoffs can win. It's wide open.

 

[rambo2]

Unfortunately it probably would have served is better long term if we hit rock bottom. Like the 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons delivered is our best situation this era .

But once we were back on our feet Jethro begun meddling again and defused the direction and progress we’d made.

We manage to build just enough to market and hype which provides a perception the tide is turning but the culture and weaknesses in key areas still come up short while some opponents are building better teams and culture.

I don't buy it. You actually don't believe that this team can't win the playoffs? I believe that they can. The team that I think that will not win in the playoffs is the Eagles.

 

[Diehardblues]

What if they win this year John? It seems to me that you would have learned something last year after you gave up after the 1st game of the year.

There’s always the possibility they could win. That doesn’t rule out that some of these other franchises have built better teams and cultures.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't get frustrated when I look at the Eagles and the 49ers. When you look at the big picture and see that your team is still alive for the 1 or 2 spot and a lock for the 5 with 2 games to go. It's not bad. Any team in the playoffs can win. It's wide open.

You’re right . It’s not bad. It’s actually pretty amazing with our dysfunctional leadership and organization.

We build enough of a team to hype and promote. Problem is some franchises are building better teams and cultures.

We simply aren’t that championship caliber franchise this era. And that’s fine. Most teams in the NFL aren’t.

That’s my message here. That we need to adjust our expectations . We can still hope but without that level of success this era we aren’t one of the more Elite franchises anymore.

 

[starfan1]

You are totally wrong at this point. The NFC is wide open and the Cowboys are a good team. The current team could actually win. Take a look at the Eagles and the 49ers right now. Your obsession with the gm is ridiculous.

Why do you try ? Let them wallow in pity and discontent .I can appreciate your efforts though

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't buy it. You actually don't believe that this team can't win the playoffs? I believe that they can. The team that I think that will not win in the playoffs is the Eagles.

Belief isn’t a commodity other than one attempting to promote a product.

All teams believe they can win. Fans aren’t required to have belief .

But for most fans belief is usually built around a team that’s been there before.

 

[Brax]

All I can do is provide my view which includes my instincts and insight based on 60+ years of diehard fandom.

If you don’t agree then that’s fine. And nowhere did I assume this season was over . That’s not my message at all. You missed the point.

No I didn’t miss the point, it’s a blame Jerry because there hasn’t been the greatest of success but you missed the point because it is a bash Jerry thread that’s your weekly sermon. Have a happy and safe new year

 

[Diehardblues]

No I didn’t miss the point, it’s a blame Jerry because there hasn’t been the greatest of success but you missed the point because it is a bash Jerry thread that’s your weekly sermon. Have a happy and safe new year

Jethro is just the foundation for the lack of success. For most this is a given.

The bigger message is expectations need adjusting. This isn’t a championship caliber football franchise any longer.

 

[JustChip]

Fast forward 20 years and there’ll be posts on the Patriots fan side just like in this thread.

 

[Diehardblues]

How many decades is it going to take of mediocrity before all Cowboy fans adjust their expectations.

Once you do then you’ll enjoy just making the playoffs. Look how Lions are ecstatic for winning their first division in 30 years.

 

[75boyz]

It’s typical for everyone to be disappointed and frustrated . But we should be used to it by now . Ive certainly become as numb as I think I can be.

It takes a different mindset that Cowboy fans had during our glory eras where we always believed we had a shot to win a championship. It’s time for fans to come to terms with what this franchise has become this era .

We aren’t that championship caliber franchise most of the last two generations grew up with, only in name. And I think is part of the problem or at least the foundation into our anger this era. We keep expecting to become that franchise again.

We are almost 3 decades removed from that once proud championship ways . And with an ownership which at least for most of this era hasn’t set their selfish ambitions aside allowing an opportunity for more success.

Cowboy fans must take all of this into consideration and adjust their emotions and attachments accordingly as we have become more similar to many other struggling franchises this era instead of the more elite franchises .

Spot on but at the same time, are you attempting to degrade or minimize the importance of all the most valuable team Forbes trophies Jerry has been winning this era?

Geez, so we're supposed to settle for those cheap Lombardi ones?

smh

 

[rambo2]

Jethro is just the foundation for the lack of success. For most this is a given.

The bigger message is expectations need adjusting. This isn’t a championship caliber football franchise any longer.

Lol, they could win the championship this year.