News: Cowboys believe Brandon Carr is better than you think

[WinnipegBoy22]

There is nothing wrong with Carr as a #2 CB. He's a good player. He's getting paid too much but that's how it goes when you give a big FA deal.

As Steven Jones said, free agency is where good players get paid as great players and he's right.

 

[Stash]

Honestly, I didn't see Robinson as any type of upgrade over Carr to begin with. Would he have been cheaper? Sure. But if you aren't actually upgrading the position, why bother?

You said it yourself. He would have been cheaper. The failure to acquire a viable alternative has allowed Carr and his agent to continue to bilk the Cowboys out of millions of dollars he hasn't earned.

 

[gmoney112]

Just cut him sounds good but until you have someone to replace him it's just talk
If we get lucky and a CB falls to the second round we may be in a position to cut him but the reality is we aren't right now

There were several free agents we could have replaced Carr with for at least half the price, we just didn't.

I've been saying we should have cut him the first day of FA. And exactly what I said would happen, happened.

While we're overpaying mediocre talent like they're Revis, lets go ahead and bump Churchs salary from 4.25 to 8 mill.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Archer: Cowboys believe Brandon Carr is better than you think (better than a dead man, otay)

 

[Alexander]

Archer: Cowboys believe Brandon Carr is better than you think (better than a dead man, otay)

It is strange what you hear the Cowboys saying about him.

It is almost like they do not care about the fact he is a cap albatross.

 

[Vanilla2]

You're late to the party ese

 

[skinsscalper]

You said it yourself. He would have been cheaper. The failure to acquire a viable alternative has allowed Carr and his agent to continue to bilk the Cowboys out of millions of dollars he hasn't earned.

But would he have been better? The only reason you force Carr to take a pay cut or release him is if his cap hit is keeping you from signing a player that you covet. To this point Carr's salary has done that, literally, zero times.

The Cowboys have been pretty adamant that they aren't playing in the top of the FA market and they've proven it. For some reason fans fail to acknowledge the fact (even though it's been echoed over and over again by the FO). Instead they get these pie in the sky ideas of what they WANT the Cowboys to do and and use strawman arguments like Carr as the reason the Cowboys didn't sign who THEY wanted the Cowboys to sign. "Argghhhh, if the Cowboys didn't have Carr's salary on the books they could have had the room to sign a guy that they weren't ever interested in signing to begin with" (shakes fist at the sky).

I'm with you that Carr's spot needs to be upgraded. Upgraded is the key word. If we're just going to swap parts? Nah. Robinson misses more games than he plays and his play is no upgrade. Which is why I wasn't a heart broken when he signed with Indy. But to cut a guy just for the sake of cutting a guy to possibly end up with someone that's actually worse. Not a fan.

 

[MRV52]

Carr was never going anywhere, just the rants from some in here that want him gone. Not happenning, just fix the pass rush and we will be fine with who we have.

 

[wilfred]

Next year , Carr gonna have receivers like

 

[Stash]

But would he have been better? The only reason you force Carr to take a pay cut or release him is if his cap hit is keeping you from signing a player that you covet. To this point Carr's salary has done that, literally, zero times.

The Cowboys have been pretty adamant that they aren't playing in the top of the FA market and they've proven it. For some reason fans fail to acknowledge the fact (even though it's been echoed over and over again by the FO). Instead they get these pie in the sky ideas of what they WANT the Cowboys to do and and use strawman arguments like Carr as the reason the Cowboys didn't sign who THEY wanted the Cowboys to sign. "Argghhhh, if the Cowboys didn't have Carr's salary on the books they could have had the room to sign a guy that they weren't ever interested in signing to begin with" (shakes fist at the sky).

I'm with you that Carr's spot needs to be upgraded. Upgraded is the key word. If we're just going to swap parts? Nah. Robinson misses more games than he plays and his play is no upgrade. Which is why I wasn't a heart broken when he signed with Indy. But to cut a guy just for the sake of cutting a guy to possibly end up with someone that's actually worse. Not a fan.

The consensus of grades were better for Robinson than they were for Carr. Robinson rejuvenated his career in San Diego by most accounts.

 

[big dog cowboy]

You said it yourself. He would have been cheaper. The failure to acquire a viable alternative has allowed Carr and his agent to continue to bilk the Cowboys out of millions of dollars he hasn't earned.

Even if they would have complained "He's not any better than Carr" at least he would have only cost half as much.

Just putting a different face on the position would have help the perception of our fan base.

 

[skinsscalper]

The consensus of grades were better for Robinson than they were for Carr. Robinson rejuvenated his career in San Diego by most accounts.

He also only played in ten games and had an effective CB opposite him (just for the sake of Devil's advocate).

 

[skinsscalper]

Even if they would have complained "He's not any better than Carr" at least he would have only cost half as much.

Just putting a different face on the position would have help the perception of our fan base.

But would it have had a positive effect in the locker room, film room, or field? If I'm a GM I don't give two "you know what's" about fan base perception". As famously said "If you start listening to fans, soon you'll be sitting with them".

 

[Stash]

He also only played in ten games and had an effective CB opposite him (just for the sake of Devil's advocate).

Very true.

 

[rynochop]

This is a perfect summation of Carr's situation. But it appears some posters have taken his salary personally.

Exactly, they don't give out trophies for salary cap space, but some seem to think they do do.

 

[Doomsay]

It is strange what you hear the Cowboys saying about him.

It is almost like they do not care about the fact he is a cap albatross.

It seems very much like that man who signed his ridiculous contract hopes one more magic season will somehow vindicate his actions.

 

[Risen Star]

Well, Brandon Carr is better than most fans think. He wasn't nearly as good as they thought when he signed and then true to form the pendulum swung the other way and now he's garbage.

He's not garbage. He's actually a solid player. Nothing more.

 

[Teague31]

You mean the same Cruz that didn't play a down of football last year and is iffy to even start this season? You don't say? Dumb argument is dumb.

The number of TD's he scored is equal to the number of picks Carr had last year

 

[skinsscalper]

The number of TD's he scored is equal to the number of picks Carr had last year

Keep digging. It's getting dumber by the minute.

 

[jobberone]

Yeah I can agree with that somewhat. There certainly are poor tacklers, though. Most NFL DBs are poor tacklers.

I think most are poor tacklers as well. But many teams are leaving those players off their lists. Business decisions are frowned upon.