Cowboys' defense could use some "Law" and order

[The30YardSlant]

some people just are content to sit forever waiting for their train to come in and they learn to say "this time, it's coming!"

Lord knows we needed a CB last year, and we didnt go after Law, the best available corner. It's obvious either Bill, Jerry, or both have zero interest in him, I dont blame them.

 

[Hostile]

I am not running around in circles.

Yeah, you are. On the one hand you're saying Rosenhaus is similar to the Postons. On the other hand you won't admit any comparison to TO can have any validity.

Your stance can be similar. Anyone else's stance must be exact circumstances or no validity.

You have doubts that the Cowboys would sign Law because he's a Poston client.....Why? Because the mediots have mentioned that Parcells doesn't like the Poston.

Actually, this entire forum learned of this from Dale during the 2004 Draft when Parcells was overheard to be cursing about not wanting to deal with them.

The exact words as pick #24 approached included an f-bomb past participle where the blank line is and the statement "I don't want to deal with the ______ Postons. Get Kevin Jones' agent on the phone."

That's just the facts C. The media may have heard the same, but one of our own, and probably the most reputable guy on this forum, informed us of this sentiment long before it hit the presses.

I argue that the media don't have a damn clue what Parcells would do or wouldn't do evident by the fact that the main mediots were left with egg on their face after Parcells approved the deal (Jerry mentioned calling him).

Mediots as windmills returns. Grab your lance.

Therefore it's possible Parcells could infact sign Law, infact, the fact that he drafted him and Law excelled under Parcells would carry more weight than the "supposed" dislike for Postons.

It's like that scene from Dumb and Dumber. Lloyd asks the girl if there's a chance for them. She says 1 in a million, and he's thrilled there's "a chance." Sure there's a "chance" Parcells could sign Law. The odds are against it.

I think that is pretty straight forward.

Try not to.

Well I believe that the TO can be used as an example because most mediots didn't think (based on their knowledge of Parcells thinking :laugh2: )that Parcells would ever approve the signing.........In this case you don't think Parcells would approve the signing of Law because some media outlets stated Parcells doesn't like the Postons........well I am hear to tell the mediots have been proven to be clueless and Law abilities as proven last season.........are still top notch.

Windmills must die.

I meant mediots.

:wink2:

Couldn't same be said for WR. We could have traded for Owens or got into the sweeptakes when he left the 49ers. Did we have a WR of TOs abilities 2 seasons ago.

Nor a WR saying he wanted to play with Q.

This isn't that difficult. He wanted to go play with Donovan. If it was just about getting out of San Fran why did he balk at Baltimore? If we had Bledsoe then, maybe we'd have been in the sweepstakes. We don't know.

That doesn't rule out the signing of a Poston client, neither does a media blurb about Parcells not liking the Postons.

Cling to hope C. I'm sure Clarett will be the Broncos top RB sooner than we think.

:wink2:

Could be for various reasons..........not necessarily because of the Postons.

Yet the one reason which has been stated by a reliable source (Dale) is totally ignored by you.

Wow you've looked past the the beast known as the Postons.............I gree it could be for various reasons.

When you agree it just MIGHT be because of the Postons you will be free. Free I tell you.

The samne can be said for many NFL players we haven't acquired, but I guess the Postons make this a special case:laugh2:

No, just a recurring theme that won't go away. Our own version of Groundhog day.

 

[Hostile]

Two Things.

1.You know it is bad when I ramble on like this, Normally I am just the happy go lucky poster.

2. Usually when you break down my posts like that it means we are disagreeing about things, but this new method makes me feel dirty. I need a sponge bath, where is winicki when you need him. :

~shudder~

 

[5Stars]

Lord knows we needed a CB last year, and we didnt go after Law, the best available corner. It's obvious either Bill, Jerry, or both have zero interest in him, I dont blame them.

Hey, HH...why don't you sign up and play corner for the Boyz? I read where you said that you could "shut down" any reciever in the NFLE...!

Heck, you could make a few bucks, take out a FULL PAGE smear compaign ad against Henson!

Think about it...

 

[Charles]

That and the idea he has yet to sign or draft a player with the postons as their agents and the simple fact that of three times we could have gotten Ty Law we have passed.

1st the media blurb doesn't carry any weight.

2nd.......Just because we haven't signed or drafted a player a client of Poston also doesn't carry any weight.

Do you know how many Sports agents that have never had clients (drafted or FA) with the Cowboys? What were the reason.......related to the Postons

3rd.....Ty Law isn't the only player we've had a chance to sign more than 3 times, I don't seem to remember anyone drawing a straight line to their Agent.

Pretty simple logic IMO. We could have gotten ty law when we had less at CB but we passed. Why would we do it now when we have more.

It's not a simple as you think. There could have been other higher priorities even though we were thin at CB, but while you aknowledge other reasons you're quick to mark the Postons the beast :laugh2:

Reason to do it now. I like Law better than Aaron Glenn. He's an unpgrade after this season CB will be a priority. Glenn isn't getting any younger and we'll still need a 3rd CB capapble of starting. Law could then be moved to safety ala Rod Woodson.

NO because TO wanted to go to the eagles and that was where he was going to go PERIOD...just ask the Ravens they found out first hand.

If Jerry Jones wanted TO 2 season ago...........I doubt McNabb could convince the penny pinching Eagles to match any deal Jerry offered. We had no interest then, we do now, why can't same be said for Law..............Poston I guess

Wasn't a media blurb I heard it from and I will leave it at that. However anything COULD happen, in this case history says it probably will not happen.

I also leave you with this I know people who work in the sports management industry as agents closely. Postons while considered a mavericks are liked in the industry, because they push the envelope and get players better deals that eventually bleed over to other agents via the clients.

Postons and Rosenhaus are the new Scott Boras and Leigh Steinberger. If there ever was an owner in their mold it would be yours truly Jerry Jones and Danny boy.

Histroy has nothing to do with it

Not just the postons, as I have said, but you are once again stuck on the postons.

Why have we not tried to get Ty Law three times so far when we could have used a player of his caliber? I listed a multitude of reasons.

I am not stuck on the Postons. :laugh2:

 

[The30YardSlant]

Hey, HH...why don't you sign up and play corner for the Boyz? I read where you said that you could "shut down" any reciever in the NFLE...!

Heck, you could make a few bucks, take out a FULL PAGE smear compaign ad against Henson!

Think about it...

5'11'', 165

I wouldnt even fit into the average set of pads :laugh2:

 

[iceberg]

5'11'', 165

I wouldnt even fit into the average set of pads :laugh2:

6'4" 330 - me either.

 

[BigDFan5]

It's not a simple as you think. There could have been other higher priorities even though we were thin at CB, but while you aknowledge other reasons you're quick to mark the Postons the beast :laugh2:

There was no higher priority than CB last season which was easily shown by the fact the first FA we signed after the FA period began was Anthony Henry NOT Ty Law.

Then about a month later we signed Aaron Glenn while Ty Law was still avaliable

Man when you are wrong you are loudly wrong.

First you say Law was among the highest paid corners last year, then ignore the fact you were shown to be wrong.

Now you say CB wasn't the highest priority even though it was the first thing we signed.

 

[5Stars]

6'4" 330 - me either.

Hey, since you complain so much about the 0line, and you're that big, why don't you strap em up and get on out there?

 

[The30YardSlant]

6'4" 330 - me either.

The next Larry Allen?

:a-team:

 

[iceberg]

Hey, since you complain so much about the 0line, and you're that big, why don't you strap em up and get on out there?

cause my back sucks - which is why i can relate to rivera. : )

 

[JonJon]

Well Chad Johnson Bengals WR stated DeAngelo Hall is the best CB in the league.

I'd take a top WR word over a bunch of stat pushers any day and twice on Sunday when it comes to evaluating talent.

Seeing as how Johnson didn't play against Newman last season, that argument holds zero weight. Maybe you should ask Steve Smith, who was the top WR in the league last year, who is the better corner. DeAngleo Hall, the guy who he torched for a TD repeatedly last year (one which happened right in front of me), or the guy (Newman) that shut him down all day to the point of yelling at Delhomme and eventually getting ejected from the game. Newman, the same guy that aided in Plaxico Burress getting 0 TDs against Dallas last season, shut down Owens in the first game, and kept Randy Moss out of the endzone (ran him down from behind, too).

 

[jrumann59]

There are too many people here that think this is a rotiserrie league and that we should sign the biggest names. Sometimes you have to sign a lesser that fits better then sign a bigger name and try and fit a square peg into round hole. Ty Law will be a FS in the twilight of his career but unfortunatly he doesn't think the sun is ready to set on his career.

 

[WoodysGirl]

The next Larry Allen?

:a-team:

LA never ran that fast...
TB should make another smiley for slow lineman... :

 

[iceberg]

LA never ran that fast...
TB should make another smiley for slow lineman... :

in his rookie year he chased down a CB who int'd the ball from behind. he used to be DAMN fast for his size.

 

[Hostile]

in his rookie year he chased down a CB who int'd the ball from behind. he used to be DAMN fast for his size.

That play stands above the rest for me about LA. I'm really going to miss him.

 

[junk]

Yep.........I'll leave you.......the expert to determine the level of Laws skills.........coincidentally I heard the same crap last year and Law even had less leverage coming off an injury, but some how the Postons were able to make one of teh highest paid CB last season and he backed it up with elite play throughout the season.

You don't have to take my word for it, look around the league. If he was still a top notch corner, he'd be spending his millions right now instead of hunting around for a job. Good players typically don't have to contact teams and express interest in the team to try to generate interest. Law has been doing that the last two offseasons.

Look at this realistically. Miami had a hole at corner and signed Will Allen. Law lives in Miami and expressed a desire to play there. Miami showed little interest. Hmm, Saban knows Belichick.....

Parcells has coached Law before and has intimate knowledge of him, yet has repeatedly passed on the opportunity to sign him or even visit with him.

Crennel has cap room and intimate knowledge of Law. Could probably use a corner. No interest.

Mangini has intimate knowledge of Law and showed zero interest in bringing him back to the Jets.

I'd say its pretty telling that every coach that has an association with him has shown little interest in signing him.

I didn't say he was the best CB in the league (perfect example of making up an argument) to get in cheap shot.

What is the term for posters that make up stuff inorder to questions someones opinion?

Fair enough although I was simply trying to get my point across. Henry and Newman were two of the top corners in the league last year IMO and you are claiming Law will force one of them to the bench. The only scenario I could see Law in Dallas would be playing FS. Barring injury, Newman/Henry are as close to locks as you'll get.

Do you want me to give a list of agents that have almost been decertified or suspended. Does the name Leigh Steinberg come to mind? He was considered a dirt bag.....the mediots trumpeted the owners opinions.

Postons are just the mediots favorite whipping boy for the moment.

What is your obsession with the media? Have a bad experience once? Bottom line: The Postons screwed Arrington out of $6.5 million because THEY DIDN'T READ THE CONTRACT. If that doesn't define inept, nothing does.

Are you related to them or something?

Yep it must be the off-season, because as usual when the season starts, Poston clients will get their money ala Law (last season), Milloy (a couple of seasons ago), Woodson (franchise salary last season, Julian Peteron (this offseason).................

Or give up 4.4 million to get out of a contract that they failed to read......

Their tactics are limiting their options for their clients. Its widely reported that Parcells wants nothing to do with them. How many other coaches out there are like that?

Come see me early September and we can rehash this conversation

Sure, one of them will probably be decertified...

 

[junk]

You have doubts that the Cowboys would sign Law because he's a Poston client.....Why? Because the mediots have mentioned that Parcells doesn't like the Poston.

I think this pretty clearly points out that you don't exactly have the full story.

It wasn't the "mediots" that reported this.

 

[junk]

Lord knows we needed a CB last year, and we didnt go after Law, the best available corner. It's obvious either Bill, Jerry, or both have zero interest in him, I dont blame them.

See my previous post. No coach with ties to Law has had any interest in him.

Belichick, Mangini, Crennel, Saban or Parcells. I think this is very telling.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

See my previous post. No coach with ties to Law has had any interest in him.

Belichick, Mangini, Crennel, Saban or Parcells. I think this is very telling.

Not true, there were reports last month talking about Belichik and the Pats potentially being interested in bringing Law back into the fold for the right price.

Mangini is the new coach of the jets and I'm sure he would have kept him if they weren't in salary cap hell.

I'm also pretty sure I saw that the dolphins were mentioned as showing interest at some point too since they are in the AFC East and very familir with Law and what he's capable of doing.